Unreal II V.S. Doom 3

[akiraHz]

So, being the curious cat that i am.. what is all your opinions out there on which game will best the other. Which engine will kick the others @ss, which will have better game play/multiplayer?

post your fingers off

[Milo_Hoffman]

Originally posted by akiraHz:
So, being the curious cat that i am.. what is all your opinions out there on which game will best the other. Which engine will kick the others @ss, which will have better game play/multiplayer?

post your fingers off

Doom 3 for sure. I have my reasons. : )

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[The_Sharq]

I'm going with Doom III. I trust Carmack. The unreal games are fun, UT blew Q3a outta the water, but Carmack promised that it would be more single player oriented. I'm expecting something revelutionary.

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[Ganja]

Yep Doom 3.
Especially if it has a single player.
Thats why I think both UT and Q3 sucked cause they had no single player story at all.


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i like your guys's computer systems.. but im not much into single player that much any more.. i just like getting online and seeing how other people play.. etc

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[anatomiczero]

How about Quake 4? It's supposedly being worked on, but not by ID Software.

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[Gogita]

I choose Dragonballz : Bid for Power mod rc4. Or maybe PONG...

Who knows... Who really cares...

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[Raptor2150]

Ouch, not a single vote for Unreal2. I've never read anything about Doom3 as of yet, but I was a great fan of the original Unreal. It was the first game that actually started me on the track towards higher resolutions. But then, I was comparing it to quake2 http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif In any case, if the Unreal series continues to put out as it has been doing, then it gets my vote*

*subject to revision upon obtaining information on Doom3 http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Squirrel Meat]

ill go for U2. Ive always loved the first unreal. i loved it sooo much. i thought it was such a fun game. i dont know why. mabey i just loved the graphics when it came out. but i think it will be a tight game..

[BuzzQwik]

I'm going with Unreal 2! YA BABY!

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[janko10]

i'll go Unreal 2 also. Not for the graphics, but the gameplay in UT blows away Q3 and for that, they get mad props with me.

J

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[IntelSux]

Doom 3 will blow everything out of the water


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[blk-sabbath-fan]

i think doom 3 will be better but will come out like 1-2 years after unreal 2 so i wouldn't really rate them in the same class

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[The_Sharq]

Originally posted by blk-sabbath-fan:
i think doom 3 will be better but will come out like 1-2 years after unreal 2 so i wouldn't really rate them in the same class



I personally hope they come out at the same time. Clash of the Titans.

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[ltlejigger]

Ya baby doom 3 without the doom games quake or unreal probably wouldn't of existed.

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[Snoop Dogg]

I also trust John Carmack since Doom and Quake were ever invented. He has always done good and I am betting this will be no diff.

Doom III is my vote.

I also heard Quake 4 was being worked on kinda a semi-project with all Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Doom III going on they dont have much time yet.

[gyre]

I don't see why people are whining about UT and Q3 not being single player oriented. I mean with UT it's obvious, hence the "Tournament". You know it's not just going to be one player going through a shizload of levels killing monsters and demons like Doom. I've never even played Q3, so I can't whine about that.

I'm in the middle between Unreal2 and Doom3. They both sound like really good games, even though I've only seen screenshots of what Unreal2 is going to look like (none for Doom3 http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/frown.gif). Who knows...If the graphics in Doom3 look better (more human) than in the early Quakes and UT, then I might just go for that. The only thing I'd like to see in games is graphics similar to those in Final Fantasy: The spirits within. I think I'll leave my rants on that for some other time.

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[JoJo]

Why choose when you can have both?

[gyre]

originally posted by JoJo:
Why choose when you can have both?

True

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[JoJo]

gyre,

The cut scenes in Final Fantasy X is pretty damn good. (Not as good as the FF movie, but it is still amazing).

[Milo_Hoffman]

Originally posted by JoJo:
gyre,

The cut scenes in Final Fantasy X is pretty damn good. (Not as good as the FF movie, but it is still amazing).

I've never played any of the Final Fantasy series. I guess I feel like I "missed" out now. I remember when the Dreamcast came out and I went and stood in line for them to release it at 12:00am, and almost half of the people were there because they were releasing Final Fantasy VIII or IX (Can't remember) too. I suck.



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[Mandorallen of Molynnr]

Doom 3! No...U 2! No.. Doom 3! No...U 2!

Actually I'm not even looking forward to either of these games, rather Jedi Knight 2 or Wolfenstien. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/tongue.gif

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[AMD CAOIT]

you have a second on wolfenstein, i never played quake or doom much or unreal, <im 15> first game i ever played was castle wolfenstein, god i loveed the hell outta that game, i was pretty young and i learned the keyboard on that game, now im an all out nerd for nething computer related.

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[Shooter McGavin]

I hope they are not comparable !?

Doom was so good in its time because it scared the poo poo's outta me.

Unreal and UT was just so fluid and thought out.

I'm hoping Doom 3 scares me silly and U2 will probably have superior gameplay.

Not that I think is a similar comparison but people used to compare Doom and Duke Nukem. Thats just stoopid they are different games trying to do different things.

I'm going to enjoy playing both http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif

Shooter

[Cobra]

They both look so good its hard to say which one will be better. But if i had to choose, then my vote is for Unreal 2 http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[oziumJinx]

Unreal 2 without a doubt. I always liked unreals graphics better than quakes soft, cartoony, felty gameplay....whatev, we shall see sharkies!

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[AMD Soldier]

D O O M

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[Sol]

Looking forward to Doom 3 more then Unreal 2. Remember, Epic isn't doing Unreal 2... Legend is I believe. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif

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[Karmann]

DOOM III !!!

I still play Ultimate Doom and Doom 2, regret not having Final Doom... but it's so perfect, those deamon sounds, the music, the enviroment, man that enviroment, reminds me of Alien... abandoned Mars bases, rooms filled with bodies... I used to be scared when i first played the demo... i was like 9 years old and the sound volume was way up... when the game begun, all those gun shots really got my attention... One of the best puzzle solving game of it's category... if the new Doom feels like the originals, it will kill any other game...

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[Nabby]

Originally posted by Gogita:
I choose Dragonballz : Bid for Power mod rc4. Or maybe PONG...

Who knows... Who really cares...



I totally agree with this guy right here. Bid For Power is gonna rock.



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[Raptor2150]

Originally posted by Sol:
Looking forward to Doom 3 more then Unreal 2. Remember, Epic isn't doing Unreal 2... Legend is I believe. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif



What?? I didn't know Epic stepped aside. Is there a reason they did this? Does anyone know anything about Legend? I hope they keep up the work Epic has in the past http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Idiot356]

Legend is doing the game, don't worry there really good and it's under epics supervision. Personnaly Unreal killed Quake 2 in single player, and UT beat Q3 in multi. But forget all this U2 v. Doom 3 crap, I wan't Unreal Warfare, which Epic is developing..........wait scrap that I really really want HALF-LIFE 2 with a Counter Strike 2 mod, oh yeah.

[KeeperMarius]

If QuakeIII's textures didn't look so much like the toytle-heads that come out of my arse....I'd play it more often.

My vote goes for Unreal 2.

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[IRON-PAWW]

Both games are gonna be expensive. Software + vid card + cpu + mobo. All will likely have to be upgraded to play them. Oh I know about the 30fps crap with DooM3 but do you really believe that? I'm getting a little sick of ID's constant array of indoor levels. Therefore I must pit my vote with U2 (not the band).

[Milo]

http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif C'mon people, what is the matter with all of you...? Trying to keep this thread alive until these 2 games actually come out???? http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

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[Thatoneguy]

I personally think Unreal 2 is going to rock for different reasons than doom3. The platform that unreal will run on will be less intensive. The target for the game according to legend will be around a 500mhz machine that has t&l support. I don't agree almost all of the time on the minimum specs so probably around a 700mhz machine will actually be needed. Doom3 on the other hand will run like a dog on current video cards. Meaning that it will probablly require an upgrade before you can actually play it like it was intended to be. Yes that means spending $400 on the top of the line video card once again. The one I'm waiting for right now is Duke forever. Meaning that it will be forever before it comes out.

[Sol]

Originally posted by Thatoneguy:
I personally think Unreal 2 is going to rock for different reasons than doom3. The platform that unreal will run on will be less intensive. The target for the game according to legend will be around a 500mhz machine that has t&l support. I don't agree almost all of the time on the minimum specs so probably around a 700mhz machine will actually be needed. Doom3 on the other hand will run like a dog on current video cards. Meaning that it will probablly require an upgrade before you can actually play it like it was intended to be. Yes that means spending $400 on the top of the line video card once again. The one I'm waiting for right now is Duke forever. Meaning that it will be forever before it comes out.


Also remember Doom 3 is still a long ways away. Unreal 2, isn't it slated for a spring release? Doom 3, I would say MAYBE an xmas, but I am saying spring of 2003. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif


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[Xevious]

Although I loved the Doom games... I'm looking forward to Unreal more. Unreal was absolutely amazing when it was released. To this day, I still perfer Original Unreal graphics to Quake 3. Unreal has to wide open beautiful environments, beautiful skies, smooth gameplay, etc. When I play Quake 3... I'm not sure why, but it feels like I'm controlling a 4 foot tall fat guy.

In any case, I'll buy and play through both. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif

[kpxgq]

TFC 2 baby! yeah!
wait a minute this is Doom vs unreal... well i dont really like the run in and blast everything type of gameplay


damn but when FFX for playstation 2 comes out.. my computer will probably be sitting idle for a looong time until i finish it.

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[patssle]

Star Trek Armada II will blow both of those games out of the water

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[AMD Soldier]

I don't understand some of you guys! Why say it's bad when Doom 3 comes out you'll need to upgrade???!!??

OMG I only wish ALL games would go this far and demand for a faster system. If everyone did this we'd have games that would be 4x better than they are now. I for one am very happy what the guys at ID are doing.

This is why Doom 3 will kill Unreal 2, it's going to be far more advanced graphical game. I'm drooling just thinking about, guess I'll stop now. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/wink.gif http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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I vote for Unreal II, but Doom 3 will most likely rock too.

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[port22]

Originally posted by AMD Soldier:

OMG I only wish ALL games would go this far and demand for a faster system. If everyone did this we'd have games that would be 4x better than they are now. I for one am very happy what the guys at ID are doing.


Not really... faster hardware drives better looking games, not the other way around. I don't think releasing a game that can't run on today's specs is going to magically mean we all run athlon 5Ghzs

[stingray454]

Originally posted by Xevious:
When I play Quake 3... I'm not sure why, but it feels like I'm controlling a 4 foot tall fat guy.



LMAO!!! That's a great description!

Try setting your /cg_fov to 125. Then it will feel like you're controlling a 4 foot skinny guy hyped up on crack with tunnel vision http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/biggrin.gif



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[Geforce25]

Originally posted by akiraHz:
So, being the curious cat that i am.. what is all your opinions out there on which game will best the other. Which engine will kick the others @ss, which will have better game play/multiplayer?

post your fingers off


So far I've found the Unreal games to be a lot more fun than ID games.

I loved Quake II, but 3 sucked, and Unreal was better than even QII

As long as these are games, and not just engine tests like Q3 was, I'll buy both of them.




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[Lord Vader]

Doom 3, ID will reclaim their crown and destroy all oposition. Then Deus Ex 2 will come out and better Doom 3. Oh well I will get them all.

[IRON-PAWW]

The inventiveness and creativity of Epic squashes ID like a juicy bug. ID have the technical know-how, god knows, we all know that. But I really think their games are uninspired and somewhat bland. Wipe DooM 1 and 2 off that list of course. But The quake series of games have been a little bland up to date. Very simple environments, flat floors, flat walls, no outside environments, not even any eyecatching views that disappeared after DooM. Anything good made with the quake engines has been made by other development companies. But, in their defence, they are the creators of new technology and their games are constantly compared to games years newer than their titles are, so they ARE going to be better.

How much did Q2 predate Unreal by?????

Legend made the Wheel of Time game using the Unreal engine as it was then (keeps getting better). WoT was a very good game, although NVIDIA based cards still struggled a little with the engine simply not being designed for them at all. I really hope that the U2 game FIXES this, I'm sick of it. But, WoT was very thoughtfully designed and good varying environments. Don't worry, Legend know the Ureal Engine backwards by now. Plus the water effects in Unreal are the best I have EVER seen in a game to date!

[m316foley]

I personally think Doom3 will dominate in single player, however, in multiplayer I think ut2 will dominate.

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