Future of Gaming

[greg2m]

With the new advent of future video cards and such as GeForce 3 and ATI Radeon 8500 do any of you think that there will be a war between Consoles and PC?? And on the same note anyone now of MGS 2 will ever be on pc?? Since it predecessor is!

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[LordVampyre]

thought there was already a war on?
ever see PC games advertised on tv? I havent but see plenty of console games advertised.

[greg2m]

Yeah, but it's undeclared! I mean do you think we'll see bashing like sega and nintendo used to do between each other!! Remember the game gear ads?

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[Trav2003]

Originally posted by greg2m:
Yeah, but it's undeclared! I mean do you think we'll see bashing like sega and nintendo used to do between each other!! Remember the game gear ads?



he he, I remember the one where the dude picks up the stick (or something like that) and bashes himself in the head while playing a gameboy, just so he could see in color http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

My view on the future of gaming is that FPS has pretty much been hit, I mean we don't need more that 100FPS, so that obstacle has been passed, the current obstacle is getting as much Eye candy on the screen as possible, the Radeon 8500 and geForce 3 look to help out on this, then I see the next frontier after that being working on more fluid and lifelike motion for the people in the games, and once that obstacle is passed I would believe there would be a cry for higher resolutions on monitors so we can really get more detail.

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[Snoop Dogg]

Yeah what do you mean War LOL. There already is one with the Consoles and PC. Well not really I mean ATI and Nvidia. ATI fought like hell to be in the X-Box but lost. Right now in both Console and PC ATI, PowerColor and Nvidia have taken over. No console will ever compare to there performance...EVER.

[COrder]

Originally posted by Snoop Dogg:
Yeah what do you mean War LOL. There already is one with the Consoles and PC. Well not really I mean ATI and Nvidia. ATI fought like hell to be in the X-Box but lost. Right now in both Console and PC ATI, PowerColor and Nvidia have taken over. No console will ever compare to there performance...EVER.

If you ask me i would say Microsoft ownes both the markets.. those bastards

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[havok13154]

Future of Gaming??? i'm waiting for the brain input that you put in your head and it taps into your thinking procces, it is like your really in the game, like in the movie the 13th floor(think that was the name) $1000 for one. maybe more like $2500 if it can be use to make fantey come alive *wink* *wink*.

like paintball with out getitng hit or having to drive to a field. like CS but your really there. you know what i would pay $5000 to play CS in a VR that looked and *!SOTRA!* felt real.

i'm hoping in the next 5 year you can have one in your home or in a gameing center. i would pay $200 for 30 minutes in one of thouse but i would pay $5000 to have one in my home (i can dream can't i)

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[Geforce25]

Originally posted by greg2m:
With the new advent of future video cards and such as GeForce 3 and ATI Radeon 8500 do any of you think that there will be a war between Consoles and PC??

The war is well under way.

We are entering into the last couple of generations of consoles, and the producers of those will milk them for all they are worth.

Ultimatly consoles have no future, as specialized gaming gear is integrated into the centralized home PC.

Already the gap in graphics is closed. Even ten years ago the PC couldn't even approach consoles in graphic quality, now they not only approach, but in some ways exceed.

The Paradigm is shifting towards an integrated entertainment system, and the PC is the ONLY logical foundation. In 10 years the home PC will be the brains behind the TV (HD or better), digital dish, DVD, Video messaging, V-conference, and of course gaming.

Nintendo and Sony know this, and seek only the leverage the last dollars out of a market soon to disappear.

Even now, the only way to compete is to make consoles more like PC's, with monitor connectons, storage devices, and modems.


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[COrder]

Originally posted by havok13154:
Future of Gaming??? i'm waiting for the brain input that you put in your head and it taps into your thinking procces, it is like your really in the game, like in the movie the 13th floor(think that was the name) $1000 for one. maybe more like $2500 if it can be use to make fantey come alive *wink* *wink*.

like paintball with out getitng hit or having to drive to a field. like CS but your really there. you know what i would pay $5000 to play CS in a VR that looked and *!SOTRA!* felt real.

i'm hoping in the next 5 year you can have one in your home or in a gameing center. i would pay $200 for 30 minutes in one of thouse but i would pay $5000 to have one in my home (i can dream can't i)



dude i dunno about that.. chances are you would probably be hooking your brain directly up to some hardware to do that kinda stuff with no middle input device like say a keyboard ... that could be a problem... the last think i wanna do is give some developers and the entire internet full acess to my brain


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[brianshields]

the last think i wanna do is give some developers and the entire internet full acess to my brain

Yeh, and if you think the Spyware in the current generation of P2P filesharers is bad, wait until they hook into one of these :-<

[havok13154]

i don't care!!!

i want the memory of me kills lots of people and not having to go to jail.

it dosn't go into yout brain it uses a unit on your head that taps into your brain

and no internet just a unit that hooks up to unit on your head that taps into your brain, you just plug it inot the wall (for power)and then incert a cd into the unit and have fun let your mind take over.
wounld'nt you love to do that?!?!?!?!?!

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[This message has been edited by havok13154 (edited September 06, 2001).]

[The_Sharq]

the pc right now is losing to the console. But in a year or so they will be ontop. When Doom 3 comes out, it will blow everything out of the water. I mean everything. Have you seen the new gameplay video. OMG...best looking game i have ever seen, it is atleast 2 or 3 years ahead of anything i've seen on any platform. Right now, the hardware on pc's isnt powerful enuff to compete with consoles. The radeon 8500 can do 60 million polys but it will be a while before any developers make use of it.

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[BremenCulhaven]

The graphics comparisons between PCs and consoles crack me up. Please http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif most TVs only have 400-500 lines of resolution and current consoles and ones that are coming out don't take advantage of HDTV res.

BC

[kpxgq]

Originally posted by BremenCulhaven:
The graphics comparisons between PCs and consoles crack me up. Please http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif most TVs only have 400-500 lines of resolution and current consoles and ones that are coming out don't take advantage of HDTV res.

BC


but on a computer u sit like a foot from the monitor and most people with decent (32"+) sized TVs play in the living room about 6-12 ft from the screen... at that point u really cant tell the difference...


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[COrder]

Originally posted by kpxgq:

but on a computer u sit like a foot from the monitor and most people with decent (32"+) sized TVs play in the living room about 6-12 ft from the screen... at that point u really cant tell the difference...




LOL,
whatever i don't know about you buddy but even with DC i notice a huge world of difference between 320x240 and 640x480
and you are telling me that you cant see the diffence between a monitor that can go up to 1600+ and a regular 320x240 television.. well if that REALLY is the case maybe you should wear your glasses afterall


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[Adisharr]

I predict TF2 may come out someday bundled with Duke Nukem Forever in the $ 9.99 bin..



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[atrayu]

With all the talk about resolution differences between TV's and monitors it should be noted that both the XBOX and GC will support progressive scan for TV's that can handle it. In other words the new consoles *will* be able to take advantage of HD capable TV sets.

I read that Rogue Squadron 2 at E3 on a flat panel TV with progessive scan enabled looked awsome.

Also I have yet to see any computer monitors hit the 65inch threshold yet. People complaing about how we view the game are missing a huge point. Big Screens! Playing a great game on a sofa with a large TV, 32 or more, with a well designed controller (Zelda OOT) can be a lot more rewarding than playing a PC game in a chair with a 19in monintor.

For those who can afford it, a game system like GC or XBox or PS2, set in a well designed home theatre are in for a treat most PC users couldn't dream of. The Klipsch's 5.1's, while undeniably stunning, don't stand a chance against a *real* 5.1 setup.

With all that said; anyone who is a true gamer has got to be very excited about all the great games and possibilities for games that will be hitting our consciousness within the next five years. Only problem is it's getting a little expensive. 300 for a GF3, XBox or PS2 not to mention controllers, memory cards, broadband... yikes.

Show Me The Money!!!

[havok13154]

Originally posted by atrayu:
[B]
For those who can afford it, a game system like GC or XBox or PS2, set in a well designed home theatre are in for a treat most PC users couldn't dream of. The Klipsch's 5.1's, while undeniably stunning, don't stand a chance against a *real* 5.1 setup.
[B]

my friends paernts have a bose set up it cost $1600 and whn he came over to hear me klipsch 5.1 he said they sound better. seem the klipsh are better then you say!



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[greg2m]

Funny how things go, gotta bring this back on the table in light of the new consoles...

[SaturnBeat]

the pc right now is losing to the console. But in a year or so they will be ontop. When Doom 3 comes out, it will blow everything out of the water. I mean everything. Have you seen the new gameplay video. OMG...best looking game i have ever seen, it is atleast 2 or 3 years ahead of anything i've seen on any platform. Right now, the hardware on pc's isnt powerful enuff to compete with consoles. The radeon 8500 can do 60 million polys but it will be a while before any developers make use of it.
Lol! Now that's how it was 4 years ago... wasn't even signed on Sharky yet. Damn, that's a good find greg2m. Same things are happening nowadays.

[Street Tough]

Hahaha fun to bring back a old thread like this. I always have a laugh seeing people's system specs and talk about the day's technologies because how things change so much in such little time. I was reading some old reviews on voodoo1 and voodoo2 graphics cards from the late 90's and traced the GFX cards over the years. Kinda fun when you are bored at work :)

[greg2m]

Hahaha fun to bring back a old thread like this. I always have a laugh seeing people's system specs and talk about the day's technologies because how things change so much in such little time. I was reading some old reviews on voodoo1 and voodoo2 graphics cards from the late 90's and traced the GFX cards over the years. Kinda fun when you are bored at work :)


Funny indeed when I first opened the post, I had this:

PIII 650 dual boot Win Me and 2k SP2
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Cable Modem
:eek: lol ! Running a Linux file server on it now!

[ImaNihilist]

I predict TF2 may come out someday bundled with Duke Nukem Forever in the $ 9.99 bin..
Actually, they will release on the Phantom.

[Geforce255]

Lol! Now that's how it was 4 years ago... wasn't even signed on Sharky yet. Damn, that's a good find greg2m. Same things are happening nowadays.


And I stand by what I said back then. The "Media Center" is going to take over. All functions of entertainment in a single unit in the living room. Games, DVD, DVR, Dish, etc.

[PointlesS]

wow...we were making dnf and tf2 jokes back then too

[Timman_24]

And I stand by what I said back then. The "Media Center" is going to take over. All functions of entertainment in a single unit in the living room. Games, DVD, DVR, Dish, etc.

Of course, I remember reading an article by a microsoft rep saying they are moving toward that. Funny how back then computers werent as powerful as the consoles...

[SaturnBeat]

Of course, I remember reading an article by a microsoft rep saying they are moving toward that. Funny how back then computers werent as powerful as the consoles...
Yeah we have the same thing now, and in a couple months PCs are back in business. :)

[PCJ]

the pc right now is losing to the console. But in a year or so they will be ontop. When Doom 3 comes out, it will blow everything out of the water. I mean everything. Have you seen the new gameplay video. OMG...best looking game i have ever seen, it is atleast 2 or 3 years ahead of anything i've seen on any platform. Right now, the hardware on pc's isnt powerful enuff to compete with consoles. The radeon 8500 can do 60 million polys but it will be a while before any developers make use of it.
HAHAHA
Turns out Doom3 was 3 years ahead of everything because it came out 3 years later LOL!