I'm not kidding, either. This may not be the most appropriate post for this forum, but I think everybody should be able to see this. http://www.finalfantasy.com
This is the theatrical trailer to a new movie by Columbia Pictures and Squaresoft, LTD (the makers of Final Fantasy the video game for Playstation). It is an entirely 100% 3D generated movie, and I have to say, it looks better than real life. I am speachless, and I'm sure you will be, too. However, when you remember how to talk again, please respond to this regarding what you think.
There is a downloadable copy here. http://www.thegia.com/movies/ffmovie/ffmoviemedia13.html
Trust me on this one: you will be amazed, and those of you who aren't completely current on the marvels of today's 3D rendering techniques will very likely sh*t their pants. I for one plan on being there opening night. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
IL96
11-17-2000, 09:09 AM
NICE :-)
Grizzly
11-17-2000, 09:50 AM
Yeah...I almost sh*t myself when I saw the movie poster for Dungeons & Dragons the movie, and i don't mean this in a good way! ROFL! It's got Jeremy Irons in it...I don't know what he was thinking...wow I can't wait to see the scrubs in line for this blockbuster movie. I really can't believe someone thought it would be a good idea to make filth like D&D into a movie. This ones gonna flop harder than Tom Arnold on the olympic high dive.
Humus
11-17-2000, 12:28 PM
The day when we'll see that rendered in real-time, like Quake 18. Yeah, I'll be a old man by then ...
If Star Wars II is as bad as Phantom Menace, then I wouldn't doubt it. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
At least the Final Fantasy movie decided not to include a Jar-Jar type character (I guess Moogle would be the Final Fantasy equivalent) with the key phrase "Me-suh gonna die?" http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/tongue.gif
Duo
11-17-2000, 07:37 PM
Yea its awesome. Lets hope they get everything eles right. Like the plot and have a diologue.
Duo
------------------
"Maybe this world is another planet's Hell."
- Aldous Huxley (1894-1963)
James
11-17-2000, 11:53 PM
This is the first and probably only time that I will be able to post in the Highly Technical forum and not feel like a moron. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
The trailer is smooth. Hopefully the movie will be, too. If there is a good story to go along with all of those eye-shattering graphics, then its going to rock.
"looks aren't everything." -some supermodel
------------------
I want 1yottabyte of memory running at 1yoctosecond...
major
11-18-2000, 11:56 AM
WOW....that's one classy trailer....that 3d...wow....urr...wow
~major
------------------
I'll go now....OK?
Adisharr
11-20-2000, 01:51 PM
I saw the FF trailer as well as the D&D trailer in the theatre last night and I almost fell out of my chair for both! The BG animation in FF is the best I have seen so far. Makes everything else look like crap. This is a definate go see when its out http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
$ .02
P.S. D&D looks great to. I'll be in line http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
------------------
- Mouse not found - click to continue..
stoo
11-21-2000, 04:40 AM
The day when we'll see that rendered in real-time, like Quake 18. Yeah, I'll be a old man by then ...
Sooner than you think, I'd reckon.
------------------
Stoo
[This message has been edited by stoo (edited November 22, 2000).]
Humus
11-21-2000, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by stoo:
Sooner than you think, I'd reckon.
Stoo
Yeah, I hope so. But me guess is that it's a least 20 years before we see that rendered in realtime on a normal desktop computer.
Elxman
11-22-2000, 12:43 AM
holy...man they look smoother and more real than a baby's butt http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
------------------
boo! bah!
Angelus
11-22-2000, 06:14 AM
after watching it i realized my mouth was wide open http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/eek.gif
this is one movie i gotta see!!
------------------
'There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers'
zombor
11-22-2000, 04:20 PM
i saw the grinch last night and the FF preview played as well as the D&D(which ive seen before). Although i did almost sh1t my pants when i saw it, i was dissapointed by what i saw. The plot didnt seem like a final fantasy plot. It seemed more like a Heavy Metal plot if you ask me. Last night i was thinking about Final Fantasy(in a HUGE fan) in 3d and how the series has just gone to hell since theyve made it 3d. I havent played ff9, but it looks like a nice game. I was thinking about if Square made a "final fantasy classic" where it was classic 2d, but it would have 2d graphics that would make you sh1t yourself(on x-box mabee??). All the classic ff stuff could be done that couldnt be done in 3d(just play ff5 and youll see what i mean). Hell, i might even contact square for a suggestion and make a petition thing to see how many people would like it.
------------------
Compaq Armada E500
650MHz PIII 128MB RAM
8MB ATI rage mobility
11GB hard drive/DVD
dual booting win98/2k
who said you cant game on a notebook????
Arcadian
11-22-2000, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by zombor:
i saw the grinch last night and the FF preview played as well as the D&D(which ive seen before). Although i did almost sh1t my pants when i saw it, i was dissapointed by what i saw. The plot didnt seem like a final fantasy plot. It seemed more like a Heavy Metal plot if you ask me. Last night i was thinking about Final Fantasy(in a HUGE fan) in 3d and how the series has just gone to hell since theyve made it 3d. I havent played ff9, but it looks like a nice game. I was thinking about if Square made a "final fantasy classic" where it was classic 2d, but it would have 2d graphics that would make you sh1t yourself(on x-box mabee??). All the classic ff stuff could be done that couldnt be done in 3d(just play ff5 and youll see what i mean). Hell, i might even contact square for a suggestion and make a petition thing to see how many people would like it.
Well, I'm a pretty big Final Fantasy fan myself, and I think they are doing the right thing with the Final Fantasy movie. I don't think the traditional Final Fantasy plots would really make a lot of sense in a movie.
I have played every single Final Fantasy game, including all 3 FF Legends. I have even played FF2, FF3, and FF5, which were never released to the US. And, I have to say that right now I am playing FF9, and it's the best of all of them. If you want 2D looking settings (yes it's in 3D, but the art is very 2D looking), as well as the traditional FF plot, you will definately like FF9. I suggest you play it first before you start your petition. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
It also has a lot of past characters, including Antlion, Matoya, and Garland (bet you never thought you'd see these characters again). Another important thing is the character development, which was really starting to lag in FF7 and FF8. The good news is that in FF9, it's back to the way it used to be, with characters that are very easy to get along with. If you are a fan of the old school FF, then you should try FF9.
Now this is completely off topic, and I appologize, but I felt I needed to respond to Zombor. Thanks for the patience.
Acceptable_Risk
11-23-2000, 12:55 AM
I could have sworn I saw that a couple of months ago, but yeah, I'll be in line for that one. It looks some sweet.
------------------
Sir Acceptable_Risk,
1st Order sapasion's OC Knights
alexross
11-23-2000, 08:28 AM
Wow.. we should send that to Ben. He's into that kinda thing in a big way http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
Originally posted by Arcadian:
I'm not kidding, either. This may not be the most appropriate post for this forum, but I think everybody should be able to see this. http://www.finalfantasy.com
This is the theatrical trailer to a new movie by Columbia Pictures and Squaresoft, LTD (the makers of Final Fantasy the video game for Playstation). It is an entirely 100% 3D generated movie, and I have to say, it looks better than real life. I am speachless, and I'm sure you will be, too. However, when you remember how to talk again, please respond to this regarding what you think.
There is a downloadable copy here. http://www.thegia.com/movies/ffmovie/ffmoviemedia13.html
Trust me on this one: you will be amazed, and those of you who aren't completely current on the marvels of today's 3D rendering techniques will very likely sh*t their pants. I for one plan on being there opening night. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
------------------
Cheers
Still Editor-in-Chief & Founder, NOT CEO and used to be President
-------------------------
www.sharkyextreme.com (http://www.sharkyextreme.com)
www.sharkygames.com (http://www.sharkygames.com)
----------------------
Thanks for flying with us, we know you have a choice...
zombor
11-23-2000, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by Arcadian:
Well, I'm a pretty big Final Fantasy fan myself, and I think they are doing the right thing with the Final Fantasy movie. I don't think the traditional Final Fantasy plots would really make a lot of sense in a movie.
I have played every single Final Fantasy game, including all 3 FF Legends. I have even played FF2, FF3, and FF5, which were never released to the US. And, I have to say that right now I am playing FF9, and it's the best of all of them. If you want 2D looking settings (yes it's in 3D, but the art is very 2D looking), as well as the traditional FF plot, you will definately like FF9. I suggest you play it first before you start your petition. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
It also has a lot of past characters, including Antlion, Matoya, and Garland (bet you never thought you'd see these characters again). Another important thing is the character development, which was really starting to lag in FF7 and FF8. The good news is that in FF9, it's back to the way it used to be, with characters that are very easy to get along with. If you are a fan of the old school FF, then you should try FF9.
Now this is completely off topic, and I appologize, but I felt I needed to respond to Zombor. Thanks for the patience.
yea, all im waiting for is for my freind to get past the first disk. But, alas, i dont have a ps1 or 2(and never will unless i get it for mucho cheapo), so ill have to emulate it(is it possible?).
------------------
Compaq Armada E500
650MHz PIII 128MB RAM
8MB ATI rage mobility
11GB hard drive/DVD
dual booting win98/2k
who said you cant game on a notebook????
Arcadian
11-23-2000, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by alexross:
Wow.. we should send that to Ben. He's into that kinda thing in a big way http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
Hey, Alex... it's nice to hear from you. You've been strangly absent from the forums recently. Probably busy getting all those articles out, eh?
Arcadian
11-23-2000, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by zombor:
yea, all im waiting for is for my freind to get past the first disk. But, alas, i dont have a ps1 or 2(and never will unless i get it for mucho cheapo), so ill have to emulate it(is it possible?).
Those PSOne's are pretty cheap, you know. I think you can get one for $89US these days.
If you want to emulate, though, the best one out there is Bleem!. However, even that doesn't emulate 100%, so I would spring for the PSOne to get the full experience. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
chrisangelini
11-23-2000, 05:56 PM
Too bad it won't take advantage of the PS2. I just picked one up and have been playing Tekken Tag and Midnight Club. FF never fails to impress me, and it would be cool to see it on the PS2.
[sorry, i was referring to the new FF game coming out soon http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif]
Ciao!
------------------
Chris Angelini
Editor
chris@sharkyextreme.com
[This message has been edited by chrisangelini (edited November 23, 2000).]
alexross
11-24-2000, 01:44 AM
Heya Arcadian,
Yeppers with Comdex, the P4 and a few things going on behind the scenes (meaning site changes like the indexes), I've not been on anywhere near as much as I'd like. I've stopped by sometimes to see what's shakin' though.
Anyways run for cover cos' I'm back now http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
Originally posted by Arcadian:
Hey, Alex... it's nice to hear from you. You've been strangly absent from the forums recently. Probably busy getting all those articles out, eh?
------------------
Cheers
Still Editor-in-Chief & Founder, NOT CEO and used to be President
-------------------------
www.sharkyextreme.com (http://www.sharkyextreme.com)
www.sharkygames.com (http://www.sharkygames.com)
----------------------
Thanks for flying with us, we know you have a choice...
alexross
11-24-2000, 01:46 AM
BTW replied to you on one of the other boards (CPUs I think?) regarding the P4 overclocking. Looks like it has plenty of headroom. All I need now is an 850 from ASUS or Abit to get some work done http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
Originally posted by Arcadian:
Hey, Alex... it's nice to hear from you. You've been strangly absent from the forums recently. Probably busy getting all those articles out, eh?
------------------
Cheers
Still Editor-in-Chief & Founder, NOT CEO and used to be President
-------------------------
www.sharkyextreme.com (http://www.sharkyextreme.com)
www.sharkygames.com (http://www.sharkygames.com)
----------------------
Thanks for flying with us, we know you have a choice...
Arcadian
11-24-2000, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by alexross:
BTW replied to you on one of the other boards (CPUs I think?) regarding the P4 overclocking. Looks like it has plenty of headroom. All I need now is an 850 from ASUS or Abit to get some work done http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
Yeah, I read your reply. I look forward to seeing your results. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
Nice to see you back, too.
By the way, are you that pink haired fellow in the pictures in the Pentium 4 review? It would be nice to associate a face with a name.
[This message has been edited by Arcadian (edited November 24, 2000).]
alexross
11-24-2000, 04:45 PM
You and me both http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif I don't remember the last time a CPU could jump 100MHz "just like that". It seemed to have plenty of headroom left in it. And the way it's designed it's supposed to be frequency friendly.
Glad to be back. Yep, that's me alright. It was a Halloween thing but it's over now. There are other pictures lurking around on the site or in the about us section.
Originally posted by Arcadian:
Yeah, I read your reply. I look forward to seeing your results. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
Nice to see you back, too.
By the way, are you that pink haired fellow in the pictures in the Pentium 4 review? It would be nice to associate a face with a name.
[This message has been edited by Arcadian (edited November 24, 2000).]
------------------
Cheers
Still Editor-in-Chief & Founder, NOT CEO and used to be President
-------------------------
www.sharkyextreme.com (http://www.sharkyextreme.com)
www.sharkygames.com (http://www.sharkygames.com)
----------------------
Thanks for flying with us, we know you have a choice...
Arcadian
11-24-2000, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by alexross:
You and me both http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif I don't remember the last time a CPU could jump 100MHz "just like that". It seemed to have plenty of headroom left in it. And the way it's designed it's supposed to be frequency friendly.
Glad to be back. Yep, that's me alright. It was a Halloween thing but it's over now. There are other pictures lurking around on the site or in the about us section.
After you mentioned an "About Us" section, I was sort of curious, so I tried to find it. It seems to be hiding, though. Is it on your front page?
slipgun
11-25-2000, 05:36 AM
This is awesome... what made them think it could be done?
------------------
Before you bash in the door... check to see if it's unlocked already
virusag13
11-25-2000, 09:06 PM
your right, i did almost sh*t myself. That was amazing!
lemunruss
11-26-2000, 01:55 PM
as for when it will be possible on a desktop game the problem will stem from content design not from hardware ability http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
as it is were jumping 1000 times in power and memory every 15 years (remember the commodore 64?) the problem will be making the characters not rendering them once made
just my 13.2 billion
------------------
Um dude is it SUPPOSED to shoot flame like that?
lemunruss
11-26-2000, 01:58 PM
just re-watched the trailer... its that good.
when i was looking through in frame mode to try and figure out what they used to render the sucker i noticed the date
december 13th 2065.
that have any relavance to any FF fans?
------------------
Um dude is it SUPPOSED to shoot flame like that?
Arcadian
11-26-2000, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by lemunruss:
just re-watched the trailer... its that good.
when i was looking through in frame mode to try and figure out what they used to render the sucker i noticed the date
december 13th 2065.
that have any relavance to any FF fans?
Not in the slightest. I was looking through the still frames myself, and it is interesting the effects they use, like motion blur and solarize. Also, the closeup of the guy at the end is amazing how real it looks. Also, if you look at still frames near the end of the trailer, you can see a lot of hidden frames that you don't notice when it is running. Just about everything is cool in that trailer.
BTW, if you happen to notice "ERAU QSSI DLRO WEHT" anywhere in the trailer, that would have significance to a true Final Fantasy fan. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/wink.gif
[This message has been edited by Arcadian (edited November 26, 2000).]
BoogyMan
11-28-2000, 07:22 AM
Thanks for the link Arcadian, that was unbelievable.
I played it three times in a row, each time a bit louder...then my wife started throwing things at me! http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
------------------
"Crucify him on the Tree of Woe."
Fuzzball
11-28-2000, 01:22 PM
You're trying to tell me that those people are CGI? I got a hint that the body might be CGI, but the face looks quite real. Please tell me to my face that those people were CGI so I can get out of denial.
I didn't look aroung the site at all except for the trailer; where does it say that its all CGI?
------------
Still in denial
Arcadian
11-28-2000, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Fuzzball:
You're trying to tell me that those people are CGI? I got a hint that the body might be CGI, but the face looks quite real. Please tell me to my face that those people were CGI so I can get out of denial.
I didn't look aroung the site at all except for the trailer; where does it say that its all CGI?
------------
Still in denial
Here is a quote from scifi.ign.com
"This is an interesting time for makers of computer-generated movies. Disney has pretty much established that feature-length computer-animated movies can work, (think Toy Story, Toy Story 2, A Bug's Life, and most recently, Dinosaur), but to date, no one has managed to tell a story with human characters entirely in CG. At least not on the big screen."
( http://scifi.ign.com/movies/3957.html )
Here is a quote from www.rpgamer.com (http://www.rpgamer.com)
"The Final Fantasy Movie is currently being produced at Square Honolulu. It will be completely computer generated and is due for release in 2001."
Here is a quote from www.thegia.com (http://www.thegia.com)
"Cameras designed to capture human motion and translate the data into computer-based movements, Silicon Graphics Octane workstations, and more specialized equipment are all being used to deliver a movie with "photo-realistic" computer generated characters."
A quote from here: http://www.animationartist.com/upcoming/Fantasy/fantasy.html
"All the stops are being pulled out for Final Fantasy: The Movie, which will be 100% 3D computer animation."
Hope this convinces you. If you use a search engine to look for "Final fantasy movie 100% CG", you will see much more evidence as well. This looks very exciting. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
[This message has been edited by Arcadian (edited November 28, 2000).]
Fuzzball
11-30-2000, 01:41 PM
Arcadian, thank you for the info. That was a lot. Well I'm ready to buy the DVD.
------------------
Out of denial thaks to Arcadian http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/wink.gif
Acceptable_Risk
11-30-2000, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Arcadian:
BTW, if you happen to notice "ERAU QSSI DLRO WEHT" anywhere in the trailer, that would have significance to a true Final Fantasy fan. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/wink.gif
I didn't notice that in the trailer but I know where it's from! http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
------------------
Sir Acceptable_Risk,
1st Order sapasion's OC Knights
chrisangelini
12-01-2000, 03:47 PM
http://www.sharkyextreme.com/aboutus/
There ya go Arcadian.
Ciao!
------------------
Chris Angelini
Editor
chris@sharkyextreme.com
James
12-02-2000, 03:15 PM
A couple of things. First off, have any of you seen the voice talent listing for this thing, my god.
Ming Na
Alec Baldwin
Donald Sutherland
Ving Rhames
James Woods
Steve Buscemi
Peri Gilpin
Also, on a side note, when is ff9 slated for release on PC?
------------------
Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.
buddylee123
12-06-2000, 08:29 PM
I agree with some people about it not being of a final fantasy plot. Looks like they stapled the name to a NICE computer effects movie so us ff freaks would flock. Sure, final fantasies have been space/future oriented but not like this. I doubt that this movie will have one sword/blade in it. Not to say that this movie wouldn't kick, but i dun think that it'd be final fantasy'ie. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif coming from loyal ff fool.
------------------
*Today is the tomorrow you were worrying about yesterday*
OOAgentFiruz
12-06-2000, 10:28 PM
Not nick picking or anything but this is too smooth,the models move to perfect.Anyway I also wan't the DVD, why can't they release um both at the same time, awww come on Sony,please....
kid A
12-07-2000, 08:33 AM
Wow. Now that is pretty good!
Stunning graphics http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/eek.gif
------------------
Now listening to:
Sigur Ros - Agætis Byrjun
zombor
12-07-2000, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Arcadian:
BTW, if you happen to notice "ERAU QSSI DLRO WEHT" anywhere in the trailer, that would have significance to a true Final Fantasy fan. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/wink.gif
[This message has been edited by Arcadian (edited November 26, 2000).]
man, i remember when i first solved that puzzle, took me like an hour(i was 14)! Any idea where that is in the trailer????
and that date might be when the story takes place
------------------
Compaq Armada E500
650MHz PIII 128MB RAM
8MB ATI rage mobility
11GB hard drive/DVD
dual booting win98/2k
who said you cant game on a notebook????
Arcadian
12-07-2000, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by zombor:
man, i remember when i first solved that puzzle, took me like an hour(i was 14)! Any idea where that is in the trailer????
and that date might be when the story takes place
I couldn't find it in the trailer... I was just saying that it might have been cool, since this is a phrase any true pre-Playstation Final Fantasy fan would recognise. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
I think as an Easter Egg, it would have been cool to include it in a frame somewhere. But who says they didn't in the actual film http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/wink.gif.
zombor
12-07-2000, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by Arcadian:
I couldn't find it in the trailer... I was just saying that it might have been cool, since this is a phrase any true pre-Playstation Final Fantasy fan would recognise. http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
I think as an Easter Egg, it would have been cool to include it in a frame somewhere. But who says they didn't in the actual film http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/wink.gif.
well thats what i am, a pre ps ff fan. I just started playing ff8(just got done with disk one), because i refuse to buy a playstation and i have an emulator(dont get me started with 7, ugh). Call me old school, but ff belongs in the 2d realm.
hehe, woulndt it be cool if the saying was inmprinted in the moon or something? Like a formation out of crators like the man in the moon! http://www.sharkyforums.com/ubb/smile.gif
------------------
Compaq Armada E500
650MHz PIII 128MB RAM
8MB ATI rage mobility
11GB hard drive/DVD
dual booting win98/2k
who said you cant game on a notebook????
*-SiNcErE-*
12-07-2000, 11:41 AM
its nothing too surprising in japanese standards. But then, they're always ahead (and I mean AHEAD) of us westerners by a few years when it comes to graphics and technology. I'm very impressed though, see the hair on the girl? it moves with the wind with pure realism. Like every strand was programmed independantly.
anyway, is there a way of saving the file on my hdd? I wanna keep it for reference.
Originally posted by *-SiNcErE-*:
its nothing too surprising in japanese standards. But then, they're always ahead (and I mean AHEAD) of us westerners by a few years when it comes to graphics and technology. I'm very impressed though, see the hair on the girl? it moves with the wind with pure realism. Like every strand was programmed independantly.
anyway, is there a way of saving the file on my hdd? I wanna keep it for reference.
I provided a link in my first post to a downloadable version. You can save the one from www.thegia.com (http://www.thegia.com) to your HDD.
James
12-07-2000, 08:41 PM
Or, just go into your temporary internet files and copy and paste the file from there into another directory.
------------------
"Gunther, Kyoto, Quick! If we hurry we can just make the heroin craze."