What's with the childish behavior? I'm talking about the post count and avatar. It's not funny as you claim. It's tasteless and shows you're immaturity. The avatar shows how you are conceited and think you are God but your throne will be overthrown someday. I even doubt your administration capabilities. You are not even remotely close to Internet.com headquarters or anything. Therefore, you can't do the things Housen was able to do when he was still around. Another fact, you are only 21. Some of your moderators are older than you. I think they are more able to do the job than you, since they are older, and have more experience than you. It's also pathetic to see so many members kissing his ***. He does not own you; you have an opinion on this board. Use it.
Just a question, are you going to lock this and ban me? If you do, it will just show how you can't take criticism like Housen did. That's what made him such a great admin. He didn't let opinions about him get in the way of his job. Too bad the same can't be said about you.
GeForce
06-27-2002, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Rich1988
What's with the childish behavior? I'm talking about the post count and avatar. It's not funny as you claim. It's tasteless and shows you're immaturity. The avatar shows how you are conceited and think you are God but your throne will be overthrown someday. I even doubt your administration capabilities. You are not even remotely close to Internet.com headquarters or anything. Therefore, you can't do the things Housen was able to do when he was still around. Another fact, you are only 21. Some of your moderators are older than you. I think they are more able to do the job than you, since they are older, and have more experience than you. It's also pathetic to see so many members kissing his ***. He does not own you; you have an opinion on this board. Use it.
Just a question, are you going to lock this and ban me? If you do, it will just show how you can't take criticism like Housen did. That's what made him such a great admin. He didn't let opinions about him get in the way of his job. Too bad the same can't be said about you.
FULLY second that! I PMed him about the post count... Buttom line is that I 2nd that..
Wurm
06-27-2002, 03:28 PM
I think this answers it well (http://www.sharkyforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141048)
CaTaLyST
06-27-2002, 03:30 PM
I am sorry if you do not care for the avatar, or the Post count, but A) I have clearly explained the reasoning behind the post count. B) The avatar is my personal choice, just as you selected yours.
I've held my position for 2 years now, and prior to this, I worked with HardwareCentral.com, before internet.com acquiring the MyDesktop Network. I have my position because of my experience, as well as how i conduct myself. I am truly sorry if you do not support some of the decisions made on this site, but like most things, they are done in the best interest of INT Media group. As far as age goes, that truly has very little impact upon anything, as i am a legal adult. I enjoy working with my team of Mods, and i think our great diversity is one of our greatest strengths.
With that said, I am also sorry if you did not support the OT forum being closed, and if that is the source of your anger, i am sorry.
If this is over the recent Banishment of Newbie-Overclocker or some other member, then i am sorry, but our Acceptable Use Policy is presented when you sign up for our site, it is linked to on every page of our forums, and *will* be enforced.
Thank You,
CaTaLyST
CaTaLyST
06-27-2002, 03:35 PM
Rich, I am sorry for a two part response, but I failed to mention that I also have a question.
"Just a question, are you going to lock this and ban me? If you do, it will just show how you can't take criticism like Housen did. That's what made him such a great admin. He didn't let opinions about him get in the way of his job. Too bad the same can't be said about you."
Is there a specific example where I have done this? If so, please post it, as it may have been closed in error, or it may have been closed for some other reason, which you may not know. I do not want you to feel as if you cannot criticize me, or my actions. If anything, I truly support that, which is one of the reasons I made this forum.
Actvs Dei
06-27-2002, 05:23 PM
Rich, You participate at this site by your own free will. No one is forcing you to post here. Sharkys doesnt owe you or anyone any favors. INT Media group makes the rules so attacking Cat wont really get you anywhere. And if you've noticed the Admins and mods here are really good tempered folks who dont just ban people on a whim. Things are done for a reason and you might not appreciate those reasons but thats because you probably dont know all the facts. As for Cats avatar and post count I think it makes him seem more human and shows that he has a sense of humor and is not some God-like indiffrent Admin. And I dont have to kiss his *** cause I have my own forum and I know what its like to deal with people who disrupt the flow and ruin what is otherwise a great community.
dudewth
06-27-2002, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by Rich1988
Another fact, you are only 21. Some of your moderators are older than you.I know some 21 year olds that are more mature and wise than people who are 20 or 30 years older than them. Don't judge people by their age, a lot can happen to someone in 21 years. Catalyst is a mod...he closes threads that violate the AUP and answers questions, it's called his job. His avatar and post count mean nothing.
I also agree with what Actvs Dei said.
al bundy
06-27-2002, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by dudewth
I also agree with what Actvs Dei said.
So do I.
:cool:
BoogyMan
06-27-2002, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by dudewth
I also agree with what Actvs Dei said.
WORD
CaT has and still is a very cool person. There is no ego in his avatar, just good humor.
JabberJaw
06-27-2002, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by BoogyMan
There is no ego in his avatar
http://www.germa-drugs.com/Deodorant/124-394041s.jpg
Contains no ego, just some propylene glycol, water, sodium stearate, alchohol, fd&c blue no.1, and fd&c yellow no.5, etc., etc...
Lasts longer than the Roll-on, too:
http://www.germa-drugs.com/Deodorant/124-424344s.jpg
:p
fastitocalon
06-27-2002, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by JabberJaw
http://www.germa-drugs.com/Deodorant/124-394041s.jpg
Contains no ego, just some propylene glycol, water, sodium stearate, alchohol, fd&c blue no.1, and fd&c yellow no.5, etc., etc...
Lasts longer than the Roll-on, too:
http://www.germa-drugs.com/Deodorant/124-424344s.jpg
:p
hehe
But i don't really know anybody here so cannot speak on personal terms but i've never seen anything that seemed out of place concering Catalyst. But mistakes do happen and that is just part of life but to quote an earlier post "you are not forced to come here" so if your not happy then there is a simple solution......Leave
BMGundam
06-28-2002, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by dudewth
Catalyst is a mod...
Pssst... that's admin. ;)
dudewth
06-28-2002, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by BMGundam
Pssst... that's admin. ;) Well he is a mod for the "Classifieds Buy & Sell" section too...so I wasn't wrong, but neither are you :)
Belial
06-28-2002, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by CaTaLyST
I am sorry if you do not care for the avatar, or the Post count, but A) I have clearly explained the reasoning behind the post count. B) The avatar is my personal choice, just as you selected yours.
I've held my position for 2 years now, and prior to this, I worked with HardwareCentral.com, before internet.com acquiring the MyDesktop Network. I have my position because of my experience, as well as how i conduct myself. I am truly sorry if you do not support some of the decisions made on this site, but like most things, they are done in the best interest of INT Media group. As far as age goes, that truly has very little impact upon anything, as i am a legal adult. I enjoy working with my team of Mods, and i think our great diversity is one of our greatest strengths.
With that said, I am also sorry if you did not support the OT forum being closed, and if that is the source of your anger, i am sorry.
If this is over the recent Banishment of Newbie-Overclocker or some other member, then i am sorry, but our Acceptable Use Policy is presented when you sign up for our site, it is linked to on every page of our forums, and *will* be enforced.
Thank You,
CaTaLyST
This is from your quote 'I am truly sorry if you do not support some of the decisions made on this site, but like most things, they are done in the best interest of INT Media group', Can you explain what exactly is being done for INT Media group and Why? How much pressure is INT Media group putting on the MODS now? Would you consider INT Media group a totalitarian or liberal coorporation(basically are they good or evil)? I ask these questions because it seems like this site is being run funny now; I think people think it should be run by a guy named sharkey and not some shadowy coorporation. Why doesn't INT change the name of this site to better reflect the fact that they are in control and the only think that matters is advertising revenue(that's why they bought this site right?).
Also everyone posting here knows that we are not customers(the MOD's even told me this); so I guess the the advertisers are the cutomers of this site then? who else could they be? Well on that note how about an advertisers forum; so the customers of this site also have a place to disscuss things.
Trav2003
06-28-2002, 05:37 PM
We are not the customers of this site as previously stated. We are the employees of this site. Though we get no money from it, we are the people that keep sharky alive. We are the people that keep the site running. We may not get paid for the services we offer, but we ARE the site...
dudewth
06-28-2002, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by Trav2003
We are not the customers of this site as previously stated. We are the employees of this site. Though we get no money from it, we are the people that keep sharky alive. We are the people that keep the site running. We may not get paid for the services we offer, but we ARE the site... Well we are sharkyforums, but the forums are a loss of money for INT media. Sharkyextreme is what can make them some money and we have nothing to do with that.
ua549
06-28-2002, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by Trav2003
We are not the customers of this site as previously stated. We are the employees of this site. Though we get no money from it, we are the people that keep sharky alive. We are the people that keep the site running. We may not get paid for the services we offer, but we ARE the site...
Using the above logic, every customer of Seagate - a buyer of a disk drive is an employee of Seagate. Customers are what keep Seagate or any business/corporation alive.
Trav2003
06-28-2002, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by ua549
Using the above logic, every customer of Seagate - a buyer of a disk drive is an employee of Seagate. Customers are what keep Seagate or any business/corporation alive.
What I'm trying to get across is the fact that sharkyforums may be a $$$ loss, but you get rid of the forums and the people that visit the site, and you've got nothing left to run on.
I was trying to sound cool... apparently i've failed :p
Belial
06-28-2002, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Trav2003
What I'm trying to get across is the fact that sharkyforums may be a $$$ loss, but you get rid of the forums and the people that visit the site, and you've got nothing left to run on.
I was trying to sound cool... apparently i've failed :p
I think you were close but missed it by a hair; point I was making was that they don't consider us customers(or employees either) and what we wish for doesn't really mattter that much to them(ie they won't be bringing back OT forums because they don't care if we want them or not).
I'm sure they think having the forums is a headache because they have no control over the users of it except for the terms of service agreement(banning and moderating topics) and what forum topics they can have; but with 20,000 or so registered users(and the forums are basically the only reason to register) they can trim down and moderate heavily but I don't think they can afford to get rid of them or they risk losing their subscriber base(oops I forgot we are not customers even if we have to register to use it).
Personally with 20,000 users I think they should probably add a few more forums to keep it interesting(ie O/T or others).
CaTaLyST
06-28-2002, 10:54 PM
go visit Internet.com and you'll see why they are not named "sharky". The corporation owns many, many, many websites, and sharky's just happens to be one of them. The company is neither good nor bad, it is an entity trying to gain an increasing life expectancy in a market where the competitors are drying up every day. Luckily, things are starting to pull together again for Dot com's.
There are two types of customers. You have the advertisers, which is where most of the funding comes in, and then you have the users who click the advertising links. The forums are run at a loss, but that is the case for most places.
BL1NK
06-28-2002, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by JabberJaw
http://www.germa-drugs.com/Deodorant/124-394041s.jpg
Contains no ego, just some propylene glycol, water, sodium stearate, alchohol, fd&c blue no.1, and fd&c yellow no.5, etc., etc...
Lasts longer than the Roll-on, too:
http://www.germa-drugs.com/Deodorant/124-424344s.jpg
:p
I dont think I will buy one of these from CaTaLyST at a price of $9.95
when I am able to buy one at my local store for a couple bucks. Also he would probly charge me shipping too :rolleyes:
Anyways love the new forum and CaTaLyST has the right idea going on for it. As far as this post goes... some people just think they are cool beating up the cool guy.
dudewth
06-28-2002, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by BL1NK
I dont think I will buy one of these from CaTaLyST at a price of $9.95
when I am able to buy one at my local store for a couple bucks. Also he would probly charge me shipping too :rolleyes: I'm kinda wondering what you mean by this.
krazie662
06-29-2002, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by Belial
Why doesn't INT change the name of this site to better reflect the fact that they are in control and the only think that matters is advertising revenue(that's why they bought this site right?).
I could be mistaken, but wasn't one of the reasons why Internet.com spent a lot of money on SharkyExtreme was to be able to use the name? That's like buying out Microsoft, but changing the name to something else that nobody would even reconize anymore.
jester22c
06-29-2002, 12:33 AM
I think CaT is a great admin for the site. He takes an active role and participates in discussions which I think is very important. The avat/count show that he has a sense of humor, which I commented on in the post referenced by Wurm (thanks). I don't see how this could possibly be a bad thing. You can say I'm brown nosing all you want but I'm just sharing my opinion. Some of you out there really need to lighten up, and if you have some horrible problem with someone just PM them. How did this get turned into a debate on profit/management anyway?
Belial
06-29-2002, 06:40 AM
Originally posted by krazie662
I could be mistaken, but wasn't one of the reasons why Internet.com spent a lot of money on SharkyExtreme was to be able to use the name? That's like buying out Microsoft, but changing the name to something else that nobody would even reconize anymore.
Well the point is that if you keep the old name you should also keep running the site the same way; otherwise what is the point?
It's good too see we are considered customers now though.
Scuttle
06-29-2002, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by Belial
Well the point is that if you keep the old name you should also keep running the site the same way; otherwise what is the point?
The point is probably to make more money from the name than they spent on it (thus profit), it's an aim most businesses share. :)
CaTaLyST
06-29-2002, 08:53 AM
Well, i dont really see what the big deal with the name is. The site already had traffic, and the original owner, Alex "sharky" ross, sold the site to internet.com. When that happened, Internet.com left the name the way it was, because I imgaine it would have been pretty off the wall to change the name, when there was already a steady flow of traffic, and repeat users. Internet.com wont change its name to sharkyextreme.com, because Sharky's is only one of *many* sites that they own. If that were the case, they would have changed names to HardWareCentral, Virtual DR, or Sysopt, and so on...
Personally, I dont mind Internet.com buying out all of the old sites, which I used to be active on. I'd much rather see someone else own them, than the sites going broke and folding. I used to be a user of many of the sites Internet.com purchased. I was active on the entire MyDesktop network, prior to internet.com aquiring it. That's actually where i got my start. I was a mod/admin for the network when Internet.com purchased the network. Housen felt i had potential, and liked how i was rather involved with the users of the forums, so he kept me as part of the team. Later, when we obtained SE, he had me move over here, because this was a "larger" traffic site.
I guess I did something right in Housen's eyes :P
Anyhow, I truly love my position, and I think Housen was great to work under, as I learned a ton from him. Granted, I lost some of my involvement with the user groups, but that is somewhat needed, so I can be unbiased, when making decissions.
I miss my old online magazine (review site), and I still really want to write reviews, but I'm not even up to date on the current benchmarking software. I've lost touch on writing reviews, i guess.
JabberJaw
06-29-2002, 04:18 PM
I appreciate CaT's efforts, as well as Internetdotcom's hosting of this bbs. Although I do miss the irreverant Sharky team. They had flair which is lacking nowadays. Vince Freeman is certainly competent and I enjoy reading his articles, but I doubt we'll ever see pics in his review of him with his hair dyed green, balancing a video card on his head, lol. That's why to many folks Sharky's exists in name only, and not in character.
btw, my previous post was quoted a couple of times, so just to be clear I meant no insult to anyone. Point was that CaT's Ban Stick, and Ban stick deodorant, not only share a moniker, but a purpose - they're both applied to block obnoxious sources that would otherwise 'stink up' the local atmosphere;)