StarWars Galaxies

[EMG]

Who else is excited about this game? When is it supposed to come out? It looks like it'll be one of the best MMORPG's.

[Hans Moleman]

Originally posted by EMG
Who else is excited about this game? When is it supposed to come out? It looks like it'll be one of the best MMORPG's.

:D This is the only MMORPG that I'm will to play so I can't wait.:D

[h]

I've been looking forward to this for a long time now. They just started the 2nd stage of beta and are shooting for release for sometime between December and February. I really don't see them releasing it before the end of the year.

[EMG]

Originally posted by h
I've been looking forward to this for a long time now. They just started the 2nd stage of beta and are shooting for release for sometime between December and February. I really don't see them releasing it before the end of the year.

SWEEET! Thats great news! At least we're not just hearing about it and drooling over it now if it was supposed to be released sometime later next year.

[imayoda]

Originally posted by Hans Moleman


:D This is the only MMORPG that I'm will to play so I can't wait.:D


Same here. This game looks awesome. :cool:

[yoLNEr]

Im planning an upgrade just to play that game at the highest settings hehe

[h]

Originally posted by yoLNEr
Im planning an upgrade just to play that game at the highest settings hehe

lol, good luck with the upgrade. The devs stated at E3 that no machine right now can run the game at max detail. They did this because they wanted a shelf life of 5 years. The game already looks great but just imagine what it will look like in a few years.

[h]

btw, they are planning to have 100,000 beta testers for the final beta stage so chances are pretty good on playing the game before release.

[Hans Moleman]

:D Anybody else here gonna buy the episode II DVD when it comes out this week? I heard it comes in widescreen and standard formats... I don't know why buy I'm goin w/widescreen if that's the case.

[imayoda]

Yeah I'm hoping to pick it up tomorrow, as well as the LOTR extended cut dvd. :D

[Hans Moleman]

Originally posted by imayoda
Yeah I'm hoping to pick it up tomorrow, as well as the LOTR extended cut dvd. :D

I'll be picking that up too. But how much more do I have to pay to see those deleted scenes?

[EMG]

Originally posted by imayoda
Yeah I'm hoping to pick it up tomorrow, as well as the LOTR extended cut dvd. :D

I will probably pick EpisodeII later this year but that LOTR's DVD package looks great. I saw it advertised on TV. Will it be availible at Walmart? I'm kind of cheap when it comes to movies:D

[imayoda]

Originally posted by EMG


I will probably pick EpisodeII later this year but that LOTR's DVD package looks great. I saw it advertised on TV. Will it be availible at Walmart? I'm kind of cheap when it comes to movies:D



I picked up my copy today at Walmart. It's like an whole new movie.
The editors cut out some good stuff in the original. The new version makes the film even better, as well as longer.:D

[Adisharr]

Amazon's got the extended LOTR DVD set for $ 24.99 + free shipping + no tax + $5 rebate + voucher for a movie ticket to TTT.

So...

Essentially if your gonna go see the next movie you just paid...

Shipping Method: FREE Super Saver Shipping
Shipping Preference: Group items into as few shipments as possible.
Subtotal of items: $ 25.99
Shipping & Handling: $ 2.98
Super Saver Discount : -$ 2.98
Total for this Order: $ 25.99 (- $5 - $7.50) = $13.50

(movies in my area are $ 7.50)

Not too shabby..

[EMG]

Originally posted by Adisharr
Amazon's got the extended LOTR DVD set for $ 24.99 + free shipping + no tax + $5 rebate + voucher for a movie ticket to TTT.

So...

Essentially if your gonna go see the next movie you just paid...

Shipping Method: FREE Super Saver Shipping
Shipping Preference: Group items into as few shipments as possible.
Subtotal of items: $ 25.99
Shipping & Handling: $ 2.98
Super Saver Discount : -$ 2.98
Total for this Order: $ 25.99 (- $5 - $7.50) = $13.50

(movies in my area are $ 7.50)

Not too shabby..

I wonder if that free shipping applies to Alaska or Hawaii?

Most people I talk to on the phone when I'm ordering things tell me that Alaska is a foriegn country! Its really annoying. I have to explaing to them that its not. LOL

[Intimidator]

for this new game thats comin out do you need to pay a monthly fee?

[EMG]

Originally posted by Intimidator
for this new game thats comin out do you need to pay a monthly fee?

Unfortunately....yes. I don't think it will be too bad though. If its over $15, I'm going to reconsider.

[EMG]

Here is a good link on information about SWG. Click here (http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/features/faq.jsp)

I can't wait until this puppy hits the shelves!

[h]

They havn't set the fee yet but you can expect it to be in the $10-$15 per month range.

[Hans Moleman]

Originally posted by EMG


Unfortunately....yes. I don't think it will be too bad though. If its over $15, I'm going to reconsider.

Crap, I forgot about monthly fees. :mad: Hmmmm... maybe I won't be getting it after all. If I'm gonna spend untold hours in front of my computer I don't think I'm going to want to pay to do it. But it is Star Wars...

[Adisharr]

Why do people think a MMPOG should be free to play? Jesus..

This isn't Star Trek guys.. people need to get paid for their work.. It's called the economy.

[h]

For the cost of two movie tickets you get a months worth of game time. I'd rather play a game like Galaxies than see a couple of movies that will end up on cable anyway. They will continue to add material, playable species, planets, etc. Also, don't forget that they have to keep up the servers and provide a ton of bandwith to host servers with about 4000 players per server.

[EMG]

Originally posted by Adisharr
Why do people think a MMPOG should be free to play? Jesus..

This isn't Star Trek guys.. people need to get paid for their work.. It's called the economy.

I don't expect it to be free, but it shouldn't be over $10.

[Adisharr]

Originally posted by EMG


I don't expect it to be free, but it shouldn't be over $10.

$ 10/month = $ 2.50 / week
$ 15/month = $ 3.75 / week

Is the $ 1.25 gonna kill anyone? Come on.. You can't afford to have a nice PC if you can't afford $ 10-15 a month. Let's get realistic here.

[morto]

Originally posted by Adisharr


$ 10/month = $ 2.50 / week
$ 15/month = $ 3.75 / week

Is the $ 1.25 gonna kill anyone? Come on.. You can't afford to have a nice PC if you can't afford $ 10-15 a month. Let's get realistic here.

I agree with you Adisharr that paying for a MMORPG isn't a big deal I think most people here and who game are OK with that as well. I have to start the Canadian rant again though, $15US= almost $24 Canadian, I realize that the only thing I have to blame is our poor dollar. I'm not really complaining I'd pay it anyway, as a matter of fact I'd pay it times 2 since the next MMORPG I play I plan on buying 2 copies anyway so it will cost me $100 per game and $50 a month if it's $15us. Games cost money not much you can do about that, if you guys knew how much I paid for my PS2/4 controllers/mulitap you'd probably cry, over $800 Canadian after tax. :) Anyway after paying for games with my crummy dollar and highly over inflated taxes I get a chuckle out of people complaining about paying $50 for a game.

One great thing aboyt MMORPG's is you can almost always get your money back plus some. The last 3 MMORPG's I've played I've ended up getting all of the money I pay in monthly fees, the price of the game and then some by selling the accounts on Ebay when I get bored, I can't say that about any non MMORPG I've bought.

[EMG]

Originally posted by morto


I plan on buying 2 copies anyway so it will cost me $100 per game

Why do you need 2 copies? More accounts?:confused:

[morto]

Yes, trying to get my fiance into the next MMORPG I play and if that doesn't work I'll just level 2 characters at once.

[EMG]

Originally posted by Hans Moleman


I'll be picking that up too. But how much more do I have to pay to see those deleted scenes?

I got my copy or I should say Copies(4 dvd set!) I got mine for $25. There is a little more than 30 minutes of extra footage and a whole bunch of behind the scenes stuff. I recommend it.

[syk0]

I am Canadian as well so yeah, if it WERE $24-$25 bucks a month with taxes, that's a big ouch. You would have to seriously be enjoying the game and playing it a long to justify that kind of money. That's roughly my cell phone bill every month.

Don't get me wrong, I understand to be able to deliver a massively multiplayer game to hundreds of thousands of people you need insane PC hardware, OC3 lines (probably way faster than that) etc etc etc. All which probably costs like 50k a month or something outrageous. Don't forget they need a constant feed of income to provide patches, updates, maintenance, new add-ons etc. MMOLGs require serious money to last 5 years, which is probably why we don't see even MORE of them. Look at WWIIOL...they started out with immense potential and a huge fanbase, then it seems like they couldn't beta test anymore (since probably their publisher was threatening to kill them all if they didn't release it) and suddenly BOOM! It had gone gold and was retail. There was much rejoicing. Until you actually tried to play the damn thing. Christ, it was brutal, I remember I upgraded to 512 megs of RAM otherwise the game would take 4-5 mins to load. That cut it down to 2. There was so much lag, instant crashing, servers dying, etc that a lot of people took the game DIRECTLY back to EB or wherever they bought it. The sheer frusteration caused me to never pay a monthly fee as soon as the trial period ended. It was THAT ANNOYING. Too bad so sad unfortunately. My point is MMOLGs can be EXTREMELY risky. (On a less bitter note: I heard the game actually plays well now...maybe one day I may re-try it).

But I think SWG will probably dominant all MMOLGs. Even if it's a re-hash of EQ, people will still love it like their first new-born child. Why? It's STAR WARS people! Do you understand how many people are obbessed with Star Wars??! It's like Star Trek but times 100. Personally I think they'll get more subscribers than they have server capacity!

Maybe I haven't read enough about it, but somehow it seems like it's going to be a little too much like other games like EQ/AC/DAOC etc. You know, kill monster, gain xp, get item, save up money, buy better armor/weapons, group together, take on tougher enemies, get new abilities, rinse, repeat for thousand of hours. I don't want that.

I want to be able to have a light saber duel, decapitate the guy (ok, maybe a little overboard), jump into a speeder, cruise to some imperial space station, say "Hi" to my fellow Stormtroopers, get into a Tie-Fighter, fly into space, travel to the Death Star where it's under attack, board it, man some gunnery posts, blow away some X-Wings, leap out of my seat and bolt ASAP to the hanger where some rebel Jedi have breached it, have a saber battle with them etc.

You get my point. While this may sound a little like Battlefield 1942 meets massively multiplayer version of Jedi Knight 2, I'm sure we'd all love something along these lines.

Yet what it comes down to is lag, lag and more lag. Seems like there is no way around it without the designers either slowing down combat significantly (even that probably wouldn't work), or having RPG style fights ("You attack but miss, Ewok attacks but misses, you hit for 50 damage in the spleen, you have killed an Ewok!") where latency doesn't come into play at all. Dammit, wish there were a way around this...since this would be the next level of online gaming IMHO.

[Gogita]

Originally posted by Adisharr


$ 10/month = $ 2.50 / week
$ 15/month = $ 3.75 / week

Is the $ 1.25 gonna kill anyone? Come on.. You can't afford to have a nice PC if you can't afford $ 10-15 a month. Let's get realistic here.

In Australia, thats more like $40, which is almost as much as my monthly broadband fee. Thats just too much for too little. Adding up the annual cost.... hmmm which equates to $480AU!!! Too much IMO.

Maybe you yanks can afford that, but not me on my measly wage. I can get like 7 new release PC games for that money!

[Adisharr]

Originally posted by EMG


I wonder if that free shipping applies to Alaska or Hawaii?

Most people I talk to on the phone when I'm ordering things tell me that Alaska is a foriegn country! Its really annoying. I have to explaing to them that its not. LOL

:D wow that sucks.. LOL at the American's ;)

[Adisharr]

Originally posted by syk0



I want to be able to have a light saber duel, decapitate the guy (ok, maybe a little overboard), jump into a speeder, cruise to some imperial space station, say "Hi" to my fellow Stormtroopers, get into a Tie-Fighter, fly into space, travel to the Death Star where it's under attack, board it, man some gunnery posts, blow away some X-Wings, leap out of my seat and bolt ASAP to the hanger where some rebel Jedi have breached it, have a saber battle with them etc.

You get my point. While this may sound a little like Battlefield 1942 meets massively multiplayer version of Jedi Knight 2, I'm sure we'd all love something along these lines.

Yet what it comes down to is lag, lag and more lag. Seems like there is no way around it without the designers either slowing down combat significantly (even that probably wouldn't work), or having RPG style fights ("You attack but miss, Ewok attacks but misses, you hit for 50 damage in the spleen, you have killed an Ewok!") where latency doesn't come into play at all. Dammit, wish there were a way around this...since this would be the next level of online gaming IMHO.

That would be awesume.. like you pointed out though I don't see how that would be possible. Maybe someday they'll be able to get around this with better coding but until then I think we'll have to settle for the 'autocombat' mode. I wonder how Planetside is going to handle all that? They say it's going to be realtime and quick. A big 'Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm'.. ;)

[Isezumi]

to all those people that are whining about the cost conversion of a $10 USD fee. Its not really our fault that the conversion rate on your currency is so high. I suggest that you canadians and Aussies get a consortium and petition for an equivilant price. Instead of whining like we can fix it.

I mean Gogita you pay around $40 AUD for broadband, while we pay 40-50 USD for broadband, do you think its really fair that you are getting the same service that we are for almost 1/4 the cost. Would you like to pay $72 for broadband to make it fair. I dont think so.

[morto]

Originally posted by Isezumi
to all those people that are whining about the cost conversion of a $10 USD fee. Its not really our fault that the conversion rate on your currency is so high. I suggest that you canadians and Aussies get a consortium and petition for an equivilant price. Instead of whining like we can fix it.

I mean Gogita you pay around $40 AUD for broadband, while we pay 40-50 USD for broadband, do you think its really fair that you are getting the same service that we are for almost 1/4 the cost. Would you like to pay $72 for broadband to make it fair. I dont think so.

I can't speak for everyone else but you should reread my post, I specifically mentioned that it is not "Your Fault" that our currency is in the shitter and that it costs us that much more. Canada's currency is partially devalued on purpose to give us a better chance when it comes to bringing in new and keeping old business. Theres the advantage, the disadvantage is when we go to buy goods specifically goods distributed and marketed outside of Canada. Anyway I could careless about paying more, I'm a big boy and I can pay my own way the only reason I made the point was to show that even a $5 difference in price can make a big difference in other Countries.

[Gogita]

Originally posted by Isezumi
to all those people that are whining about the cost conversion of a $10 USD fee. Its not really our fault that the conversion rate on your currency is so high. I suggest that you canadians and Aussies get a consortium and petition for an equivilant price. Instead of whining like we can fix it.

I mean Gogita you pay around $40 AUD for broadband, while we pay 40-50 USD for broadband, do you think its really fair that you are getting the same service that we are for almost 1/4 the cost. Would you like to pay $72 for broadband to make it fair. I dont think so.

Actually $70 is what it costs to get the standard broadband plan. Which is a measly 3gb per month for 1.5mbit download and 128kbit upload. I pay 50AU cuz I'm only getting 500mb quota per month. What do you think about that raw deal, sparky! Not exactly a bargain now is it pal! :mad:

[Isezumi]

Originally posted by morto


I can't speak for everyone else but you should reread my post, I specifically mentioned that it is not "Your Fault" that our currency is in the shitter and that it costs us that much more. Canada's currency is partially devalued on purpose to give us a better chance when it comes to bringing in new and keeping old business. Theres the advantage, the disadvantage is when we go to buy goods specifically goods distributed and marketed outside of Canada. Anyway I could careless about paying more, I'm a big boy and I can pay my own way the only reason I made the point was to show that even a $5 difference in price can make a big difference in other Countries.
Apologies cowboy, after reading 30 or so posts I kinda loose the ability to remember each one verbatium, I just remember the general flow of the conversation, and it had pretty much went from cool game to b!tch fest about prices and currency conversion.

[Isezumi]

Originally posted by Gogita


Actually $70 is what it costs to get the standard broadband plan. Which is a measly 3gb per month for 1.5mbit download and 128kbit upload. I pay 50AU cuz I'm only getting 500mb quota per month. What do you think about that raw deal, sparky! Not exactly a bargain now is it pal! :mad:

Broadband at that equivilance can not be had here in the US, trust me I would gladly shell the US equivilant of $50 AUD to get broad band even if it was a 500mb quota.

We here dont have the blessed Curse of bandwidth caps yet, I either pay $35 USD for 256/56 HDSL, or $50 USD to be 340th customer on a 200 customer Cable Node. Not exactly a bargin now is it mate.

[EMG]

Originally posted by Isezumi

Apologies cowboy, after reading 30 or so posts I kinda loose the ability to remember each one verbatium, I just remember the general flow of the conversation, and it had pretty much went from cool game to b!tch fest about prices and currency conversion.


LOL! I was thinking the same thing. I started a thread to see what people think about SWG, and it turns into a currency debate!