Babbabresaur
01-09-2003, 09:24 PM
I'd like to purchase a gaming laptop with the latest and greatest. Any idea's, I would prefer Dell due to their service but would prefer a desktop processor and a Nvidia geforce 4 4200G GPU. Any thoughts?
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papa_giorgio
01-10-2003, 12:01 AM
Well if you want the best of the best in mobile laptops, definately go with dell. I just came from owning one of the Inspiron 8200 p4-2.2mobile, 512 ddr ram, 60 gb, ati mobiliy 9000 64mb, wireless internal lan with windows xp pro. That baby ran the latest games like battlefield 1942, mohaa spearhead and unreal 2003 excellent!!
But since nvidia's new geforce 4200 go is probably right around the corner and maybe the 2.4 p4-mobile , i returned it before my 30 days of warranty expired and am right now just hoping to see that new sucker in action.
Dood, just be patient
:D
But since nvidia's new geforce 4200 go is probably right around the corner and maybe the 2.4 p4-mobile , i returned it before my 30 days of warranty expired and am right now just hoping to see that new sucker in action.
Dood, just be patient
:D
ua549
01-10-2003, 10:45 AM
Why the desktop processor? There are no advantages to having one in a notebook, only disadvantages. There are power settings to keep the processor running at full speed. Use it when you are gaming. At other times use the power conservation settings to extend the battery run time significantly.
vanfanel
01-10-2003, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by ua549
Why the desktop processor? There are no advantages to having one in a notebook, only disadvantages. There are power settings to keep the processor running at full speed. Use it when you are gaming. At other times use the power conservation settings to extend the battery run time significantly.
The advantages are a faster processor and a cheaper price. If battery life isn't important to you as with many gamers a desktop cpu is a viable alternative. I'd recommend the sager 5660/8886. They've had the highest 3dmarks I've seen in a laptop (7k-8k...ok 8k was with some overclocking but still ;))
If you must have the latest and greatest I suppose waiting a month or two for NVidia's geforce 4200go or ATI's M10 wouldn't hurt. I suspect ATI's chip will be more readily available though.
Why the desktop processor? There are no advantages to having one in a notebook, only disadvantages. There are power settings to keep the processor running at full speed. Use it when you are gaming. At other times use the power conservation settings to extend the battery run time significantly.
The advantages are a faster processor and a cheaper price. If battery life isn't important to you as with many gamers a desktop cpu is a viable alternative. I'd recommend the sager 5660/8886. They've had the highest 3dmarks I've seen in a laptop (7k-8k...ok 8k was with some overclocking but still ;))
If you must have the latest and greatest I suppose waiting a month or two for NVidia's geforce 4200go or ATI's M10 wouldn't hurt. I suspect ATI's chip will be more readily available though.
KegCanMan
01-13-2003, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by vanfanel
The advantages are a faster processor and a cheaper price. If battery life isn't important to you as with many gamers a desktop cpu is a viable alternative. I'd recommend the sager 5660/8886. They've had the highest 3dmarks I've seen in a laptop (7k-8k...ok 8k was with some overclocking but still ;))
If you must have the latest and greatest I suppose waiting a month or two for NVidia's geforce 4200go or ATI's M10 wouldn't hurt. I suspect ATI's chip will be more readily available though.
OC'ing a laptop is dangerous business. OC'ing a laptop, in my opinion, is never worth the risk. Anywho, 7000k for a lappy is still not too shabby.
The advantages are a faster processor and a cheaper price. If battery life isn't important to you as with many gamers a desktop cpu is a viable alternative. I'd recommend the sager 5660/8886. They've had the highest 3dmarks I've seen in a laptop (7k-8k...ok 8k was with some overclocking but still ;))
If you must have the latest and greatest I suppose waiting a month or two for NVidia's geforce 4200go or ATI's M10 wouldn't hurt. I suspect ATI's chip will be more readily available though.
OC'ing a laptop is dangerous business. OC'ing a laptop, in my opinion, is never worth the risk. Anywho, 7000k for a lappy is still not too shabby.
vanfanel
01-13-2003, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by KegCanMan
OC'ing a laptop is dangerous business. OC'ing a laptop, in my opinion, is never worth the risk. Anywho, 7000k for a lappy is still not too shabby.
Yes it is but a little common sense goes a long way (things like artifacts are a good sign that you're hitting the limit) With that said I have an old laptop which I've had overclocked for about 5 months now. It has a measly 8MB video card but using powerstrip I've had it overclocked to the max setting and it still won't die on me. I also leave the LCD display on all night but it still won't burn out. Yes I'm trying to kill it :D I get artifacts mostly on bootup and during gaming but the thing still runs with it being on almost 24/7
OC'ing a laptop is dangerous business. OC'ing a laptop, in my opinion, is never worth the risk. Anywho, 7000k for a lappy is still not too shabby.
Yes it is but a little common sense goes a long way (things like artifacts are a good sign that you're hitting the limit) With that said I have an old laptop which I've had overclocked for about 5 months now. It has a measly 8MB video card but using powerstrip I've had it overclocked to the max setting and it still won't die on me. I also leave the LCD display on all night but it still won't burn out. Yes I'm trying to kill it :D I get artifacts mostly on bootup and during gaming but the thing still runs with it being on almost 24/7
EverCraft
01-17-2003, 08:57 PM
Alienware
anfpunk
01-18-2003, 11:00 AM
My Toshiba pulls constant 142(with com_maxfps set to 135) in 1024x768 in linux. It's on a p4m 2.0ghz with a gf4 460. I know 5 people now with Toshibas and they all run like clockwork. Also, if yer gonna spend that much on a laptop, mise well get a mobile. As ua549 said, there are only disadvantages to a desktop cpu and 100 mhz isn't gonna make that much of a difference in gaming since you're already over the 2.0ghz mark. And it doesn't matter what you buy now, you still ownt be able to run Doom3 very well so you'll just have to upgrade anyways.
SaturnBeat
01-18-2003, 11:21 AM
Hmm... anfpunk, I had a friend, who also had a Toshiba laptop, and he was very satisfied of it. I mean, it had a bit of problems, but as we all know nothing is perfect in this world is it?!
PCTORQUE
01-18-2003, 05:24 PM
The Sager 8886 is supposed to be replaced with the 8887 model next month which will have 128MB DDR Radeon 9000 video, 16.1" UXGA LCD, and hopefully the 3.06GHZ CPU with Hyperthreading ENABLED.
The information is all over sagerforums.com
As for Alienware, it's the same thing we carry in the 5660 model by Sager. Both are made by Clevo, except Sager has been around longer.
The information is all over sagerforums.com
As for Alienware, it's the same thing we carry in the 5660 model by Sager. Both are made by Clevo, except Sager has been around longer.
Rustbucket202
01-23-2003, 01:46 AM
All I can say about Sager laptops is that if you don't mind having a towel on your legs when you sit down then it is the laptop for you. They are cheap laptops but just remember those non-mobile processors were never made to be shoved into such small cases and as my friend found out, they can easily overheat. Even the mobile p4's have this problem so be careful. =)
PCTORQUE
01-31-2003, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by Rustbucket202
All I can say about Sager laptops is that if you don't mind having a towel on your legs when you sit down then it is the laptop for you. They are cheap laptops but just remember those non-mobile processors were never made to be shoved into such small cases and as my friend found out, they can easily overheat. Even the mobile p4's have this problem so be careful. =)
Your friend must have had a defective laptop, what model was it and who did he buy from? I can help him get it replaced if it's overheating.
I personally ran a 5660 and an 8886 both with 2.8GHZ CPUs for about 2 months 24/7 running United Device cancer crunching (runs CPU at 100%) and 3DMARK 2001 in a loop to get them as hot as they would get. Ever time I check the CPU with Sandra, it was running full spec and never overheated. I had them both set in the bios to throttle down to 50% if they got too warm and I couldn't even get them to throttle down with doing all that.
If they had overheating problems you would see it posted all over www.sagerforums.com I can guarantee that!
The CPU isn't designed by the space provided, the space and airflow is designed around the heat needed to be dissipated. The 5650 with the Mobile CPU and my experience with Dell, Toshiba, and Sony with mobile processors all got warm with intense programs. Any of the top end one pushing major power get warm. Yes, a mobile processor speedstaeps, but not when you're running tasking apps.
All I can say about Sager laptops is that if you don't mind having a towel on your legs when you sit down then it is the laptop for you. They are cheap laptops but just remember those non-mobile processors were never made to be shoved into such small cases and as my friend found out, they can easily overheat. Even the mobile p4's have this problem so be careful. =)
Your friend must have had a defective laptop, what model was it and who did he buy from? I can help him get it replaced if it's overheating.
I personally ran a 5660 and an 8886 both with 2.8GHZ CPUs for about 2 months 24/7 running United Device cancer crunching (runs CPU at 100%) and 3DMARK 2001 in a loop to get them as hot as they would get. Ever time I check the CPU with Sandra, it was running full spec and never overheated. I had them both set in the bios to throttle down to 50% if they got too warm and I couldn't even get them to throttle down with doing all that.
If they had overheating problems you would see it posted all over www.sagerforums.com I can guarantee that!
The CPU isn't designed by the space provided, the space and airflow is designed around the heat needed to be dissipated. The 5650 with the Mobile CPU and my experience with Dell, Toshiba, and Sony with mobile processors all got warm with intense programs. Any of the top end one pushing major power get warm. Yes, a mobile processor speedstaeps, but not when you're running tasking apps.
Almost Famous
02-02-2003, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Babbabresaur
I'd like to purchase a gaming laptop with the latest and greatest. Any idea's, I would prefer Dell due to their service but would prefer a desktop processor and a Nvidia geforce 4 4200G GPU. Any thoughts?
This is what you want...just click the "Customize and Price" link in the lower right hand corner. :eek:
http://www.hypersonic-pc.com/2001/systems-mobile.htm
I'd like to purchase a gaming laptop with the latest and greatest. Any idea's, I would prefer Dell due to their service but would prefer a desktop processor and a Nvidia geforce 4 4200G GPU. Any thoughts?
This is what you want...just click the "Customize and Price" link in the lower right hand corner. :eek:
http://www.hypersonic-pc.com/2001/systems-mobile.htm
PCTORQUE
02-15-2003, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by Almost Famous
This is what you want...just click the "Customize and Price" link in the lower right hand corner. :eek:
http://www.hypersonic-pc.com/2001/systems-mobile.htm
That's a Sager 8887 with their badge on it and a healthy markup in price =)
This is what you want...just click the "Customize and Price" link in the lower right hand corner. :eek:
http://www.hypersonic-pc.com/2001/systems-mobile.htm
That's a Sager 8887 with their badge on it and a healthy markup in price =)
mynameis
02-18-2003, 02:11 PM
I really like my dell 8200, wish it had a little better graphic card but it is like 6 months old now, it does fine
PinchyCM
02-20-2003, 04:15 AM
I'm not a big fan of gaming on laptops. Gaming on a 14.1 LCD screen just hurts. Physically, my eyes just give after a bit.
On a side note, Aren't laptops really for portability? Every laptop considered in the previous posts weigh at least 8lbs each. I sent my Inspiron 2650 back, and got a 5.6lb one (Inspiron 4150), and I won't go back. Just built a regular system if you're gonna game.
On a side note, Aren't laptops really for portability? Every laptop considered in the previous posts weigh at least 8lbs each. I sent my Inspiron 2650 back, and got a 5.6lb one (Inspiron 4150), and I won't go back. Just built a regular system if you're gonna game.
melee
02-23-2003, 04:20 PM
Read my sig for my laptop specs.
I got that free from Dell in october. They lost my I7500 that had A PII 400mhz, 6bg HD, and a 8mb video card.
My main gaming computer just broke down (gotta replace the Motherboard)so I stuck with that for gaming. My favorite game Battlefield 1942 plays at 10 fps on medium. My Desktop get an easy 100fps on high. So I can offically say that laptops or at least mine SUX MAJOR A$$.
I got that free from Dell in october. They lost my I7500 that had A PII 400mhz, 6bg HD, and a 8mb video card.
My main gaming computer just broke down (gotta replace the Motherboard)so I stuck with that for gaming. My favorite game Battlefield 1942 plays at 10 fps on medium. My Desktop get an easy 100fps on high. So I can offically say that laptops or at least mine SUX MAJOR A$$.
KegCanMan
03-01-2003, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by vanfanel
The advantages are a faster processor and a cheaper price. If battery life isn't important to you as with many gamers a desktop cpu is a viable alternative. I'd recommend the sager 5660/8886. They've had the highest 3dmarks I've seen in a laptop (7k-8k...ok 8k was with some overclocking but still ;))
If you must have the latest and greatest I suppose waiting a month or two for NVidia's geforce 4200go or ATI's M10 wouldn't hurt. I suspect ATI's chip will be more readily available though.
Dont forget that notebooks(some, at least) are running intel's latest and greatest...the 3.06. And that thing can haul.
The advantages are a faster processor and a cheaper price. If battery life isn't important to you as with many gamers a desktop cpu is a viable alternative. I'd recommend the sager 5660/8886. They've had the highest 3dmarks I've seen in a laptop (7k-8k...ok 8k was with some overclocking but still ;))
If you must have the latest and greatest I suppose waiting a month or two for NVidia's geforce 4200go or ATI's M10 wouldn't hurt. I suspect ATI's chip will be more readily available though.
Dont forget that notebooks(some, at least) are running intel's latest and greatest...the 3.06. And that thing can haul.
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