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The new Samsung 67" 1080p DLP HDTV
http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/n...LR6768WX%2fXAA
https://www.sharkyforums.com/
Wow.
67" at 1920x1080
No price yet, but I'm guessing about $4-5k. Can you imagine dual-screening those? :eek: :eek: Finally a use for 7800GTX SLI!
That isn't a true 1080p tv. It still uses a 720p light engine wobulated to 1080p. You need the Sony Qualia 006 if you want true 1080p.
Edit: My mistake, it uses a 960 x1080 dmd (instead of 720p) wobulated to 1920 x 1080p as I pointed out later on....
Hmmm. Didn't know that. How do you know? It says it can do 1920x1080...what does that mean?
It all depends on if it's using the new DLP chip or not.
The old ones could only do 720p. They released one at the beginning of this year one that would actually do true 1080p.
*Edit: Yup, it's the new one. That is true 1080p. :)
They have 2 new chips this year. HD3 (1280x720p) and xHD3 (1920x1080).
http://www.audioholics.com/cedia/ced...3chip1080p.php
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0%2C41...33482%2C00.asp
"The piece de resistance, though, is the new 1080p chip, which the company is tentatively calling "xHD3". The new 1920x1080p DMD array implements SmoothPicture and DarkChip2. The demonstration unit TI was showing on the CES floor offered impressive image quality. The company believes that new TVs based around xHD3 will ship before the end of 2004,"
Wow...say hello to my future tv :)
DLPs=headaches for me. Went with a 50" Panny plasma instead a couple of months ago. Glorious picture. Home run derby was awesome last nite. :cool:
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Originally Posted by James
Nope. Not true 1080p. xHD3 gives a wobulated image of 1920x1080. It uses a 960x1080 mirrored grid display.
Furthermore, these TV won't accept a native 1080p input.
That said, they are said to be better than the current models on the market.
If you want true 1080p, you will need to get the Qualia, wait for LCDs to come out with the new Epson D5 panels, or see if JVC adopts 1080p with thier HDiLA sets.
I dont't think 1920x1080 would look that great at 62inches. I have a DLP right now that is 52inches. Looks great for movies and such, but I wouldnt want it as my display.
Tech specs please?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Elvis
*Edit: I've been able to find a bit of information, and nothing mentions "wobulated" images...
HD2 - 2nd generation, 1280x720, 1000:1 contrast ratio
HD2+ - 2nd generation+, 1280x720, 3000:1 contrast ratio achieved through a dimple fix
HD3 - 3rd generation, 1280x720, 1500:1 contrast ratio, doesn't have the dimple fix, has SmoothPicture
xHD3 - 3rd generation, 1920x1080, 5000:1 contrast ratio, SmoothPicture, Dynamic Black
Straight from TI's website, they are stating that the xHD3 is a 1920x1080 DMD array.
I'm not saying it's not just marketing fluff, but I can't find anything to disprove it.
*Edit again: I found this on UltimateAV...
"Several manufacturers, including, Panasonic, Samsung, and LG, showed prototypes of rear projection DLP sets using TI's new 1080 chip. When I asked a TI rep if this chip was full time 1920 x 1080, or if it used the new wobulation technology (the latter apparently developed by Hewlett Packard) to present a 1920 x 1080 image, his reply was that it puts 1920 x 1080 pixels on the screen. I took this to mean that it is, indeed, a wobulator. Wobulation reportedly uses what is, in the substrate, a 960 x 1080 DMD. The chip flashes all the even 960 rows in the first 1/120th of a second and, following a minute shift of the "wobulation mirror" (my words) flashes the odd rows in the second 1/120th of a second. This produces a single 1920 x 1080 image every 1/60th of a second. But the rep did not go into these details. TI apparently has a new policy to just talk resolution and get away from dwelling on specific chip designations like HD2+, HD3, and so on. The 1920 x 1080 wobulated chip appears to be the same one previously referred to as the xHD3, and still is in some quarters. In any event the 1920 x 1080 prototypes I saw at the show looked very good. Commercial sets should start showing up in stores in the summer, though front projectors using this chip will likely make their debut at next September's CEDIA show, with shipment several months after that."
http://ultimateavmag.com/news/010705ces/
So I guess maybe it is wobulated? Man, that's an odd term. But still nothing confirming it one way or the other. Everything is heresay and marketing speak.
*Edit for a final time: Found a basic overview of wobulation.
http://news.com.com/HP+unveils+high-...3-5688847.html
But for me, it really doesn't matter, I'm going LCD. It's the best mix of performance, resolution, size, and warranty. (Plasma's aren't warrantied here.)
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Originally Posted by James
SmoothPicture = Wobulation
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1748596,00.asp
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TI's SmoothPicture™ technology uses a time-varying mirror actuator to shift the image by half a pixel in order to give the image a smoother appearance • TI's new HD3 chip has a 640 x 720 matrix of mirrors that works with TI's SmoothPicture mirror actuator to produce 1280 x 720 addressable pixels onscreen. The mirrors are oriented at 45 degrees in a diamond configuration in order to work with SmoothPicture to eliminate all visible pixel structure without sacrificing resolution. Its Dynamic Range (full field contrast) is lower than the HD2+ because of its smaller size
FTR, I think wobulation is a great advancement, but it isn't "true" resolution. As long as *my* eyes can't tell the difference, I don't care if it is true resolution or not. I was presenting this info more as a "buyer beware" type of thing because TI is doing some shady marketing with the wobulated displays.
I was under the impression that this is just how DLP worked.
I guess what I'm saying is, does a 1080p native DLP exist?
i have a 37" 1920x1080. it just means it's hdtv ready. but games sure look good at that res on that screen :D
What?!?!?! What screen is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Reign
yeah!another toy for the rich.. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by ImaNihilist