Video Card Performing Crappy.

**Spl0it** · 06-25-2005, 06:13 PM

Hey all. I just went out and bought a Radeon9250 128MB, 64Bit card to replace my old Geforce 256(whiched died a while back). And the thing is, I see no performace boost what so ever in my games. In fact, my games seem to run at the exact same FPS levels.

Why is this?

Is the card just a crappy one or what? I wasn't expecting anything great but I was expecting at least a bit of a performance boost. Can any one help?

**Bootleg** · 06-25-2005, 07:08 PM

if you're trying to run the newest games etc. the 9250 won't do you any good.

**Spl0it** · 06-25-2005, 09:06 PM

Nah. I'm running Hal-Life 1 mods. (Counter-strike, Natural Selection).

**Thermo** · 06-25-2005, 09:17 PM

3DMark it and see if you score about the same as others did with systems close to yours.

**Johnmcl7** · 06-25-2005, 09:22 PM

Radeon cards have never been good for the original Half life and mods, which drivers are you using? I seem to remember there was a set of third party drivers which were supposedly 'optimised' for HL1 and mods, but I think they were just using an OGL component from older cats, may be worth checking out though.

John

**Spl0it** · 06-25-2005, 11:29 PM

^ Would you happen to have a link to these drivers?

**PriMaTe** · 06-26-2005, 04:13 AM

i would imagine that you'd get a noticeable performance boost, maybe the rest of your setup is holding you back and your cpu is bottlenecking your video card? I don't know what the issue is, but i figure that your system can run hl1 no problem anyway. Your geforce should be able to give you playable framerates, so the ati card should just continue to give you great frames and you wouldn't notice.

**moouers** · 06-26-2005, 07:13 AM

My old Radeon 7200 (32MB) ran Half Life just dandy (on a 700MHz machine with 320MB PC-100 RAM), so there's no reason that 9250 shouldn't whip the llama's *** with that game. I'd run a 3DMark test and see if your system compares in marks to others with the same setup.

**moouers** · 06-26-2005, 07:15 AM

Forgot to ask...what is the framerate cap currently at? Is your card/game set to go no higher than the refresh rate of the monitor?

**gkline** · 06-26-2005, 07:28 AM

Did you remove all the Nvidia video drivers before installing the ATI?

Look for driver cleaner; it works well.

**Bearded Kirklander** · 06-26-2005, 07:33 AM

I think Driver Cleaner can be found at Guru3D:

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=745

Looks like it.

**stonez** · 06-26-2005, 08:34 AM

Because in all honestly that 9250 isn't as fast as a ati 8500, which is about the same as a geforce3. Also considering that your cpu is holding you back, the increase in FPS will be minimal to nill.

Run driver cleaner, nvidia and ati drivers don't play together.

Bummer though man.

**gkline** · 06-26-2005, 09:06 AM

Thanks Bearded Kirklander!

**Bearded Kirklander** · 06-26-2005, 09:25 AM

You bet.

BTW, was thinking that sometimes, backing up a system with something like Norton Ghost and then trying a fresh install on a formatted partition can sometimes help in situations like these. At the very least, it might be worth testing a fresh install and if it turns out not to work, you can restore the Ghost image and be right back where ya were before, no worse for wear.

Sometimes I do that, first resetting the motherboard BIOS to factory defaults, then rebooting, installing the OS, motherboard chipset drivers, the monitor driver (inf file), the latest DirectX, the video drivers and then the control panel (if separate) and then do some testing. Sometimes I forget how bogged down my system gets with drivers, registry changes, DLL's and what not.

Anyway, just wanted to mention that as an option.

**gkline** · 06-26-2005, 10:00 AM

True. When Ghosting you may introduce drivers not needed.

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