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    Intel Butts Heads with Rasp Pi

    http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/1...f-computing-pc



    The Next Unit of Computing (or NUC) is Intel's answer to the Raspberry Pi phenomenon. Sporting Sandy Bridge i3/i5 support, USB 3.0, HDMI, thunderbolt, 2x laptop memory slots, and two mini PCIe headers, the NUC blows the Rasp Pi away in processing power.

    The NUC is slightly larger and does not come with as many IO's as the Rasp Pi, but it does offer full support for Win 7 and is easily expanded via the PCIe adapters. Hopefully IB support will be incoming as the HD4000 would be a fantastic fit for light gaming and streaming.

    What I am unclear about is the total package. Will this include the mobile i3/i5 or do we have to purchase the CPU/RAM separately, which will increase the price far too high. Hopefully, it will be fully integrated and only cost around 100 bucks. How power will be supplied is of question as well, perhaps a laptop charger is all that is needed.

    I have a Rasp Pi on order, but would be interested in one of these for a NAT or Rasp Pi replacement.
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    Did they hint at a price?? I doubt that Intel's version can match Raspberry Pi at price point...
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    Quote Originally Posted by proxops-pete View Post
    Did they hint at a price?? I doubt that Intel's version can match Raspberry Pi at price point...
    I believe they talked about $99 boxes. That's kind of the price point they are looking at.

    Not exactly Raspberry Pi, but close in some ways. Raspberry Pi is more of an embedded platform than an actually PC.

    What Intel is talking about here is $99 PCs. The kind of unit that would ship in 10k quantities. Like a Mac Mini for business. It's pretty insane when you think about how many businesses still buy bulky workstations that are nothing more than Office/Exchange boxes. And while virtualization and PCoIP are nice, they are expensive and require a huge capital investment.

    This seems like an awesome idea. I would definitely buy one at the $99 price point. The integrated graphics means it can do H.264 easy peasy. It's an HTPC in a box.
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    But they have had lots of variations of micro-atx form factor PC's (by Intel, Via, AMD and other companies) and their prices weren't that much more... or were they?
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    Should be interesting for things like CarPC's.

    Questions:

    EMI shielding required between MSATA/mPCIe SSD & mPCIe WLAN card?
    Fan design and layout
    video output via thunderbolt, or data transfer only?

    None of those things have I seen an answer to yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proxops-pete View Post
    But they have had lots of variations of micro-atx form factor PC's (by Intel, Via, AMD and other companies) and their prices weren't that much more... or were they?
    The specs are vague, but I think the difference is that this one has a processor included on the board. It isn't just a motherboard, but a full solution much like the Rasp Pi except a lot more powerful.

    The problem I see running into is that a Win 7 license will effectively double the price of the unit unless Linux is used instead. We are also talking about a Sandy Bridge chip on this thing, with a built-in GPU. However, the more promising outlook is having Ivy onboard. An HD4000 would be fantastic in such a small device.

    Like Ima said, this is pretty much a Mac Mini for 1/6th of the price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    Should be interesting for things like CarPC's.

    Questions:

    EMI shielding required between MSATA/mPCIe SSD & mPCIe WLAN card?
    Fan design and layout
    video output via thunderbolt, or data transfer only?

    None of those things have I seen an answer to yet.
    Fan Design and prototype packaging are shown in the link:

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    Seems like a completely different market segment that Raspberry Pi to me. Intel can't deliver a quality product for $35, and even if they could they wouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timman_24 View Post
    The specs are vague, but I think the difference is that this one has a processor included on the board.
    Nah, it uses a standard laptop socket.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Verge
    Details of Intel's smallest ever x86 form factor are slowly emerging. Named NUC, or the Next Unit of Computing, the motherboard measures up at a diminutive 4 inches on each side (about the same profile as a CD jewel case), yet still supports the same Sandy Bridge Core i3 and i5 processors used in laptops.
    http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/30/29...-bridge-4-inch

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    So just the "motherboard" will cost 100 dollars? Useless for us then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    Nah, it uses a standard laptop socket.



    http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/30/29...-bridge-4-inch
    Hmm...still might be a good option for a cheap $300 HTPC and/or file sharing server.

    Pretty bummed I wasn't able to get a Rasberry PI. On the wait list for the second release batch.
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    Steve is right the NUI and Rasberry Pi are different markets.

    so basically what Intel have is a more powerful cpu supported mini pc. nothing new as Mini-ITX have been around for a long time and we already have these mini PC like those mini pc that are atom or E-350 based.

    similiar to these that are out for awhile already.
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