Optical Mice, Passwords, and Freezes (oh my!)

[The_Internal]

Hmmm. Sharky's gave the Intellimouse Explorer product a good reveiw. Well, it is great for desktop apps. and is really comfortable, and has a neat glow too it to (oooooo, shiny....). BUT, in any game that requires quick movement (or just moving the mouse quick on desktops), this mouses spazes out. in Unreal Tournament I've been killed by plenty o bot due to to the mouse cursour going all over the place only to return to a position near to that of where it started (not to mention being new to the game . Is this just my mouse or what? If it's not is there a fix for it? I await your wisdom.
Additionally, I'm running a refurb (by CompUSA) HP 8655c that despite 20 + calls to tech support being told by 2 or so dail a tech guys to call the guys who do the 2 year silver TAP onsite parts and labor warranty to get replacement hardware, and much frustration, i have yet to have a properly working computer. The TAP guys keep giving me the run around. Since I've had my conputer, it would crash after using Internet Explorer after a breif time. No blue screens o death, not Windows errors, not even a system beep would occur if I hit alt cntrl del for two eons. I added more ram. same problem. I defragged, I disabled MacAfee Virus programs (hell, i even uninstalled it to see). i turned off graphics hardware acceleration, and i got the latest drivers for all my components. I've done everything short of a reformat. SInce the system was newly reformatted when it had the problem, however, I think that's BS. What really pissed me off was that I was told to try "one more thing", tried it, called back, got some new idiot who said to reformat (which ins't a horrible idea) and to switch isps. He specifically said to try one of the AOL free trials or other big name. After discussing the issue with some of my A+ and N+ certified friends, I was told the guy was a idiot. I have no problem using a Dell on the same phone line with the same ISP. My HP has a 533 MHZ P3, 128 MB sdram (after i put in 64 more), a motherboard with a built in i810e chipset for really lame graphics, a voodoo 2 that i put in, a Roland or Chameleon (both the names come up with the factory drivers) soundcard/modem card that shares a single IRQ, an old 10MBper second ethernet card i put in a few weeks ago, a 20 gig harddrive, a cdrw, and a cdrom. Based on logic and trial and error, I've concluded that since my system freezes when using IE 5.5 (on or offline) or when I'm running winamp or anything with sound (Unreal Tournament), that it is most likely the combo sound modem card, my mobo, or maybe even the original stick of RAM. I've though it might be the hard drive, but that didn't seem practicle. I would appreciate any advice on any of the topics, especially how to fix the mouse and how to get my money's worth from the warranty. I await your wisdom. Forget the pass word part... i finally figured it out.

[This message has been edited by The_Internal (edited April 10, 2001).]

[Nick_B]

1. Some people seem to have problems with optical mice because they pick it up off the surface not enough or too much or some suck. Anyway, I don't think it's the mouse. For instance, my friend has one and I love playing on it. But, my brother tries it and he has nothing but problems. Just doesn't seem to function with some peoples mouse-moving styles.
2. I'm not sure, never tried.
3. I'd be wary of a combo modem/sound card, but I don't know.

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[PenguinKiller]

Don't know about your other problems but I play a lot of games and I don't use anything but the Intellimouse Explorer and haven't had any problems. Could it be a bad mouse?

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[foob]

I'm only using a intellimouse optical and it works fine. Only screwed up once on CS.

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[adamff7]

i got one too. it works fine when you install the drivers from the disk. and oh yeah...
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[PixelFreak]

Originally posted by foob:
I'm only using a intellimouse optical and it works fine. Only screwed up once on CS.

I had the same problem with the Intellimouse Optical when I first got it, and then realized that when I turned up the mouse sensitivity (I liked it low because I sniped a lot in TFC) and used the mouse normally, the "wackiness" almost all but went away.

When I leave the sensitivity really low, it wigs out on me on any fast movement. It's not the greatest technical answer, but it worked for me. Have at it and see what you find. The problem was adjusting my playing style to the quicker movement, but I got over that once the mouse started performing as advertised. Now, I love it.

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[BlueNorther]

If you're running without a mouse pad, it might be that your desk surface is too shiny.
Or if you're using a solid color mouse pad it can also freak out the optical mouse. try a mouse pad with a pattern on it.

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[PixelFreak]

Originally posted by BlueNorther:
If you're running without a mouse pad, it might be that your desk surface is too shiny.
Or if you're using a solid color mouse pad it can also freak out the optical mouse. try a mouse pad with a pattern on it.

Well, yeah, there's always that part of it too... d'oh!

[The_Internal]

So get a patterend pad, eh? Tahnks for the info on the mouse (feel free to add more), but how should I deal with the darn warratny people to get my computer fixed?

Thanks for all the info so far

[Dude]

Let me start with this. Sometimes little fibers get under the mouse and distort the performance. Check that. Next, an optical mouse pad should be all black, or at least a dark, solid color. Third, don't lift the mouse off of the pad, as this will distort the reading. Hope this helps. I've found mine to be some of the best money I ever spent.

[Dude]

Originally posted by BlueNorther:
If you're running without a mouse pad, it might be that your desk surface is too shiny.
Or if you're using a solid color mouse pad it can also freak out the optical mouse. try a mouse pad with a pattern on it.

No- patterns throw off an optical mouse. Do you even own one???

[The_Internal]

yes, the ms intellimouse explorer. I bought it at the local Electronics Boutique. I don't lift it off the surface, and the pad I use is a somewhat old and (figuratively)crutsy old mid-gray color. The problem only occurs when I make quick movements. If I do a series of quick to the left movements (quick left, lift up mouse, quick left, pick up mouse) if the cursor stays in the same place when I pick up the mouse, I can eventually get the cursor over to the right side of the screen by doing a straight horizontal motion to the left. I tried using the somewhat shiney dark wood desk surface too, same problem. So should i use a dark solid color, or pattern? Or is my mouse defective?

Thanks for the info so far.

[This message has been edited by The_Internal (edited April 11, 2001).]

[Dude]

Oh, I was asking Pixel Freak if he owned one.
What you may have is a first generation Optical Mouse(you've had it for over a year, right?) Well they are not as good as the second gen. But I believe that if you contact MS, they will replace your mouse if it is malfunctioning.

[The_Internal]

Originally posted by Dude:
What you may have is a first generation Optical Mouse(you've had it for over a year, right?) Well they are not as good as the second gen. But I believe that if you contact MS, they will replace your mouse if it is malfunctioning.

I got it about two weeks ago



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