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Need help fast! broken pin on a Celeron/P4
It's the bottom pin on the very left, that I circled in white. Just bought it from Fry's, and want to know what pin it is. It's totally bent to the bottom, which means it'll break if I prop it back up. If it's a dead pin, I'll just install if. If it is important, then I'll go return it but I kinda need the computer by tonight.
Anybody know what pin that is?
Last edited by deeznuts; 11-30-2003 at 11:05 PM.
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Sleeps with the Fishes
We don't know what each specific pin does really, try bending it back up, it might be alright, if it breaks, return it.
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Astronomy Shark
Even if it breaks, wouldn't it still maybe run if it was just a ground pin? You could at least try it...
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You could try using conductive adhesive to reattach it if it actually breaks off. I'm not sure how steady your hands are, but it could be worth a shot. Also, you might just try placing the pin in the socket then putting in the processor and seeing if it runs. Be careful though - the pin may not want to come back out of the socket. As far as what that exact pin does, I don't think Intel releases that information to the public.
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Sleeps with the Fishes
Originally posted by speedyaxon
Even if it breaks, wouldn't it still maybe run if it was just a ground pin? You could at least try it...
Could be a ground pin, but even still, if he runs it and the pin is broken off, he will be voiding his warranty running hardware that he used when he knew it was ****ed.
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Thread Killer
actually i would just return it, because if you break it then the store might not want it back...
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just stick a small piece of stripped wire in the socket, worked like a charm for me.
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Sleeps with the Fishes
dont try to fix it, best bet is to just take it back, and get a new one, thats NOT broken.
If you attempt to fix it, and it breaks, the store might not take it back
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MakoSharkero
was it bent when you
got it or did something happen whne you got it home.
i had a 2.4 P4 with prolly half the pins bent, some almost 90*, got knocked around pretty good in shipping, the plastic retail Intel box popped loose inside the shipping container...........then there was another one i stepped on when it was on the carpet.
anyway, i spent many hours over two daze straightening the pins, carefully checking it in a ziff every once and awhile until it slipped in with slightly more than normal force, and once the ziff is clamped down when you get her inserted, it helps with the final micro alignments of the pins, making it fit perfectly.
it is my best overclocking 2.4, does 3.6, so don't give up hope. the other one survived too. i will bet that if you carefullly bend the pin back, it will work, they are rather delicate, but it should bend back.
the store may give you some grief with the exchange claiming mishandling or possible user abuse.
good luck.
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Last edited by bldegle2; 12-01-2003 at 11:06 AM.
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Sleeps with the Fishes
Here ya go...go to page 57...shows the functions of each pin. ftp://download.intel.com/design/cele...s/25174807.pdf
It's the thermtrip# pin...it has something to do with the AGTL+ bus so that's not looking promising, although it may just send out the command to slow down the CPU in case of overheating...but I don't know. I'd just try to fix the CPU with a pair of small tweezers. I've accidentally dropped one of my CPUs on the floor and like 15 pins got bent, some pretty bad. It took a while to straighten out but no harm was done in the end.
Last edited by talldude; 12-01-2003 at 11:33 AM.
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Hammerhead Shark
I've never dealt with Fry's, but most warranty's (including Intel's) do not cover physical damage.
I would try any ways first and if not, then attemp the pin fix your self.
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Thread Killer
Re: was it bent when you
Originally posted by bldegle2
got it or did something happen whne you got it home.
i had a 2.4 P4 with prolly half the pins bent, some almost 90*, got knocked around pretty good in shipping, the plastic retail Intel box popped loose inside the shipping container...........then there was another one i stepped on when it was on the carpet.
anyway, i spent many hours over two daze straightening the pins, carefully checking it in a ziff every once and awhile until it slipped in with slightly more than normal force, and once the ziff is clamped down when you get her inserted, it helps with the final micro alignments of the pins, making it fit perfectly.
it is my best overclocking 2.4, does 3.6, so don't give up hope. the other one survived too. i will bet that if you carefullly bend the pin back, it will work, they are rather delicate, but it should bend back.
the store may give you some grief with the exchange claiming mishandling or possible user abuse.
good luck.
baldy
why the hell did you spend so much time correcting something that wasn't your fault, i would just RMA it straight away...
the stress and time is takes to straighten out half of all the pins would kill me!
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Hammerhead Shark
Taken my WBs off my procs sometimes rip them out of the socket and bend quite a few pins. I just bend them back with a CC or a razor blade. They pins are fairly maluable (sp?) so I wouldnt think one would rip off unless you bent it a lot, like numerous times not in terms of large degrees.
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I wouldnt risk it.. RMA it back to the vendor!
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Hammerhead Shark
Id just try and bend it. If it broke Id just say I noticed there was a missing pin. A lie but a little white lie. Technically it did come broken to you just not that broken You are putting a little extra effort which would benifit them also if bending it works.
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