Anandtech wrong?

[Bateluer]

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1476

"NVIDIA was the first card manufacturers to emphasize image improving features over frame rate with their GeForce3 product."

Stop me if I am wrong, but Nvidia does not make cards, and wasn't it ATi that first introduced image improving features with the Radeon?

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[Doward]

Actually, it was 3Dfx, with the original Voodoo. Anyone remember first seeing Quake in OpenGL?

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It was so sweet. The graphics were awesome!!

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[Captain Iglo]

Anand is probably going to receive one for his statement. (a GF3 i mean, for free + one NV shirt )

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[Purple People Eater]

Hehe, I noticed the same thing when I was reading it...seemed awfully...naive...
Perhaps they will recieve some GF3's for "testing" .

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[DRYNDRYN2]

From Anand:
"One thing to note is that TRUFORM technology is not ATI specific by any means: it is ATI's implementation of N-Patch technology included in Microsoft's DirectX 8 and OpenGL. It was put here for a reason- N-Patching allows a whole new visual world to be entered."



Quote from ATI's site: http://www.ati.com/na/pages/resource...hresource.html

"N-Patches are a higher-order surface primitive developed by ATI for DirectX® 8. N-Patches are Bezier triangles whose control meshes are derived from the position and normal data associated with a given triangle."

If N-patches r developed by ATI for DX, then TRUFORM is ATI's tech!



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[Bateluer]

What about the Charisma engine on the Radeon, or was that MS?

I am still sure that ATi was the first company to tote image quality enhancing features and that Nvidia caught on with the GF3.



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[destinier99]

3dfx presented in November 1996 their Voodoo1 graphics board. This was the first computer 3d accelerator card and 3dfx the first company who brought 3d graphics to PC's.

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[DRYNDRYN2]

Originally posted by destinier99:
3dfx presented in November 1996 their Voodoo1 graphics board. This was the first computer 3d accelerator card and 3dfx the first company who brought 3d graphics to PC's.

Wasnt the first Accelerator some S3 card? Virge or Trio or something? I dont really know

[destinier99]

S3Virge/DX/GX series didn't actually have 3d acceleration. For example Diamond's Stealth 3d 2000/3000/4000 cards couldn't calculate textures (via texture mapping). Simply S3 was claiming to have the faster chip back then, compared to Matrox's Millenium/Millenium2 boards.

The first card who implemented 3d acceleration was the Voodoo1. This was the first card who used the memory for texture mapping. For the history Voodoo1 had 4MB RAM, 2MB buffer memory and 2MB for textures.

In fact, S3's first 3D accelerator was the S3Savage. Crappy thing IMO.

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[DRYNDRYN2]

Originally posted by destinier99:
S3Virge/DX/GX series didn't actually have 3d acceleration. For example Diamond's Stealth 3d 2000/3000/4000 cards couldn't calculate textures (via texture mapping). Simply S3 was claiming to have the faster chip back then, compared to Matrox's Millenium/Millenium2 boards.

The first card who implemented 3d acceleration was the Voodoo1. This was the first card who used the memory for texture mapping. For the history Voodoo1 had 4MB RAM, 2MB buffer memory and 2MB for textures.

In fact, S3's first 3D accelerator was the S3Savage. Crappy thing IMO.

IMO the Savage 3D wasnt Crappy, driver support was crappy.
With that thing u can use auto Trilinear in EVERY game without a single FPS lose, and it is the first card with S3TC, and auto DXTC option in Direct 3D.

But drivers, well, thats another story

[sc5mu93]

from anandtech forums: http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...hreadid=450562
"Secondly, when I refer to the GeForce3 as the first card to stress 3D image quality over 3D speed, I am simply making a statement about the way NVIDIA is marketing the GeForce3. Rather than put extreme emphasis on the card's speed, features of the GeForce3 such as per pixel shading are being stressed. In order to accept the GeForce3, there had to be more to it than the max 20% or so speed increase over the GeForce2 Ultra in current games. For this reason, 3D image quality was stressed. True, other manufactures have attempted to do this in the past (3dfx, for example), but none have done it as successfully as NVIDIA." - matthew Witheiler

wow. i love the last sentence. how many of you bought your GF3 for image quality? now how many of you bought your radeon for image quality?

who is more successful at selling based on image quality?

what a hoot!!

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[bluesfusion]

That Anandtech reviewer must be some new kid whose first video card was a Geforce2.

Anyone who's been around in the do-it-yourself scene for more than 2 years knows that Matrox and ATI were the 2 companies who made Image Quality a selling point over just speeds. ATI's Rage Fury cards ran great in 32bit colour while Nvidia cards slowed down horribly in 32bit colour.

nVidia and Voodoo cards were the ones people bought for Speed. I mean anyone looked at the image quality in TNT cards? Terrible. People used to buy Voodoo and Nvidia cards and run them in 16bit colour to boost frame rates in FPS games. Thats about all. Now when Radeon is still the king of image quality, NVidia must have bribed the reviwer to say how they (Nvidia) care for image quality over speed. If they cared for image quality, why does the GeForce2 line still suck compared to Radeon?

Nvidia never cared for image quality. Period. Has Anandtech 'sold out'? Nobody but a complete moron would say what they did.

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[jagojago12]

I believe the most significant step in consumer-level graphics for increase visual quality (besides the venerable Voodoo Graphics) is the Voodoo5's FSAA. Sure other cards have it and do the same, but the Voodoo5 was the first *consumer-level* card available to introduce FSAA...and it still the best in quality to this day.

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[Doward]

Oh, btw... how does the MultiSample AA look, compared to RGSS FSAA?

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