Z-560 Questionnaire - please check it out!

**DJBeanPole17** · 02-26-2002, 10:24 PM

Woohoo finally my dad bought the Z560's for moi! Hurray! I do have a few questions!

1) How long did it take them to arrive for a usual 3-5 day arrival (did it actually take 3-5)?

2) Please go to MY ROOM to see pictures of my room to see if you think my placement idea is ok!

3) When I saw the demo at Best Buy, that M3D button only seemed to make sound come out of the front 2 speakers - I thought it made it a surround sound experience for usual 2 output channel things (like some DVDs and CDs). It even says on Logitech: "With our exclusive M3D Matrix technology, you experience amazingly realistic surround sound from standard 2-channel stereo sound sources such as music CDs and MP3 files." Then why did I only hear it on 2 speakers?

4) Is a fan on the sub really necessary?

5) How long is a good "break in" period?

6) If the sub goes bad, is their support friendly?

7) Do they kick ***!?

YAY!

Dave

**DJBeanPole17** · 02-26-2002, 10:26 PM

In this pic below, in case u couldnt tell on website, what is circled in red is where I'm putting the rears with like string or something strong to hold them there - just used my UPS tracking number - says they coming in tomorrow! YA!

[IMG]C:\My Documents\David's Stuff\Speaks.bmp[/IMG]

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR IDEAS AND POSTS - ANYONE WITH STAND IDEAS EMAIL ME!

Dave

**patssle** · 02-26-2002, 10:42 PM

1. 3 days

2. yes sir

3. dunno, but it works

4. no

5. 3 days minimum

6. yes

7. i think so

extras:

1. get rid of that *** screensaver!

2. shoot those ballons

3. i have 2 lamps just like that one next to your bed

4. move that laundry basket (phew) and put the sub there. thats the best spot for it.

adamff7 · 02-26-2002, 10:45 PM

i said it once before...

yo dave, i am did the same thing... works great and you don't have to get stands. go to my site to see it (look in my signiture) my bed, however, is a bit higher than yours and i have set mine up so that the almost look natural to the bed (most people don't even know they are there) Good palcement though, if you can tie them down. about the support...i wouldn't know, i got them 4 months ago and have blsted the HELL out of them and they sound great and the sub booms like a *****. just to be on hte safe side though... don;t blast them until you've had them for about a month, for that will give them time to break in...

also, one last thing... are those birthday balloons?? 18? man, get a new room. and some dead animals to hang on the walls. LOL i love the south.... (see my site below and go to "my rig" to know what i'm talking about. let me know what you think ok?)

**DJBeanPole17** · 02-26-2002, 10:47 PM

Thanks for reply - the screensaver has been changed since then, oh yes. It's the picture screensavers of me and my girlfriend. SUB by laundry basket? ok!

Thanks - need some more tho!

Dave

**Trav2003** · 02-26-2002, 10:57 PM

Looks like somebody just turned 18

Happy birthday Beanpole

**DJBeanPole17** · 02-26-2002, 11:18 PM

yay someone noticed - popping balloons? HMPH!

Dave

**aeflux66** · 02-27-2002, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DJBeanPole17
3) When I saw the demo at Best Buy, that M3D button only seemed to make sound come out of the front 2 speakers - I thought it made it a surround sound experience for usual 2 output channel things (like some DVDs and CDs). It even says on Logitech: "With our exclusive M3D Matrix technology, you experience amazingly realistic surround sound from standard 2-channel stereo sound sources such as music CDs and MP3 files." Then why did I only hear it on 2 speakers?

2 channels... front left and front right. 4 channels would include the rear left and rear right. Basically this is a gimmick. Anyone who plans on only using half of their speakers to simulate surround sound instead of using the 4 speakers already provided to do just that should buy some oceanfront property in Arizona while they're at it.

I kinda laugh at the DVD players with the simulated 3D sound thingy in em too... what's the point of buying a DVD player if you're only going to use 2 channels? :rolleyes:

**blppt** · 02-27-2002, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DJBeanPole17
Woohoo finally my dad bought the Z560's for moi! Hurray! I do have a few questions!

1) How long did it take them to arrive for a usual 3-5 day arrival (did it actually take 3-5)?

2) Please go to MY ROOM to see pictures of my room to see if you think my placement idea is ok!

3) When I saw the demo at Best Buy, that M3D button only seemed to make sound come out of the front 2 speakers - I thought it made it a surround sound experience for usual 2 output channel things (like some DVDs and CDs). It even says on Logitech: "With our exclusive M3D Matrix technology, you experience amazingly realistic surround sound from standard 2-channel stereo sound sources such as music CDs and MP3 files." Then why did I only hear it on 2 speakers?

4) Is a fan on the sub really necessary?

5) How long is a good "break in" period?

6) If the sub goes bad, is their support friendly?

7) Do they kick ***!?

YAY!

Dave

1. Took under 5 days for me...if i remember, it actually got there in 2 days. Luckily for me, Provantage had a supply warehouse close by to my delivery site. Fastest ground shipping i have ever received.

2. I have little comments on placement, but if you can, try to get all of the satellite drivers at ear level and dont separate them too much to improve the imaging of the "phantom" center channel in DVDs. If you want the most bass possible, put the sub under your desk or near a wall. If you want cleaner bass, keep it away from walls and enclosures. Best thing i can suggest is try a bunch of arrangements and see what you like.

3. It should have expanded the 2 channel input to 4 via a matrix decoder algorithm. Perhaps they were a malfunctioning set or the rear speakers werent hooked up.

4. I havent had to. But, i live in a generally cold climate city. And summer has not gotten here yet, so i dont know how well they will work in the heat. If you intend on blasting them all the time, a fan couldn't hurt.

5. We had a rather heated discussion on whether they need to be broken in at all. My suggestion is that if you want to take the safest course possible, go easy on them for a week or so, or if you cant wait, 2-3 days. Keeping it under 50% volume during that time period and avoiding using it as a centerpiece for an all night party should be sufficient.

6. Well, so far i cant recall anybody being refused a new replacement set, usually issues due come up of whether you have to send the broken one back or not. And if you have to pay for shipping.

7. Well, they are no match for my home setup, but for $150-200, yes they do kick a lot of ***.

**halibut_stu** · 02-28-2002, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by blppt

Keeping it under 50% volume during that time period and avoiding using it as a centerpiece for an all night party should be sufficient.

and 50% volume is still freakn' LOUD!!

**blppt** · 02-28-2002, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by halibut_stu
and 50% volume is still freakn' LOUD!!

Well, yeah, for mp3s/CDs, but for certain DVDs, 50% is barely enough to hear the dialogue. The Matrix comes to mind. :-)

**datboiwilly** · 02-28-2002, 04:13 PM

1) How long did it take them to arrive for a usual 3-5 day arrival (did it actually take 3-5)?
I ordered mine for provantage.com, I submitted a wrong phone number and they held my order, my mom called them on a Tuesday, I got them on Wednesday.

2) Please go to MY ROOM to see pictures of my room to see if you think my placement idea is ok!
I say buy some longer wire, and attach your two satellites to the wall behind your bed, just flip over the base of the speakers, get some nails or something and stick them to the wall =)

3) When I saw the demo at Best Buy, that M3D button only seemed to make sound come out of the front 2 speakers - I thought it made it a surround sound experience for usual 2 output channel things (like some DVDs and CDs). It even says on Logitech: "With our exclusive M3D Matrix technology, you experience amazingly realistic surround sound from standard 2-channel stereo sound sources such as music CDs and MP3 files." Then why did I only hear it on 2 speakers?
Blah

4) Is a fan on the sub really necessary?
I don't need a fan for my sub...your room doesn't look packed either, it should get enough ventillation.

5) How long is a good "break in" period?
I turned mine past halfway within the first hour of getting them. I don't really turn them up all the way, no need. Just don't abuse your speakers to the point where the music hurts your ears but yet you're still jamming the speakers.

6) If the sub goes bad, is their support friendly?
Don't know, haven't had to return my set.

7) Do they kick ***!?
Yup.

**packer** · 03-01-2002, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trav2003
Looks like somebody just turned 18 Happy birthday Beanpole

happppy birtday too. i just went there now and i saw it....

also i think i went thru Zionsvill when i went to the states....

02-26-2002, 10:42 PM	#3
patssle your reflection Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: inside your mind Posts: 5,692	1. 3 days 2. yes sir 3. dunno, but it works 4. no 5. 3 days minimum 6. yes 7. i think so extras: 1. get rid of that *** screensaver! 2. shoot those ballons 3. i have 2 lamps just like that one next to your bed 4. move that laundry basket (phew) and put the sub there. thats the best spot for it. __________________ [b]My Site

02-26-2002, 10:57 PM	#6
Trav2003 I Love My Mommy Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Jefferson City, MO Posts: 8,871	Looks like somebody just turned 18 Happy birthday Beanpole __________________ Main PC: MSI P965 Neo-F \| nVidia geForce 7300GT \| Intel C2D E6400 \| 250GB SATA II WD Hard Drive \| SB Audigy 2 Platinum \| 8x DVD Burner\| 2GB Corsair XMS DDR II 675 \| Logitech z680's \| Cordless MX Duo \| Samsung 191T \| (2) 19inch Rosewill 913E HTPC: Abit IC7 \| ATI Radeon 9800 Pro \| Intel P4c 2.8Ghz \| 120GB WD SE \| Chaintech AV-710\| 4x DVD+RW \| 1GB RAM \| Onkyo 7.1 Speakers \| TV Tuner \| Rosewill Cordless KB and Mouse \| 15 Inch LCD \| Panasonic PT-L500U Projector \| USB 2.0 Card Reader

02-28-2002, 04:13 PM	#12
datboiwilly Hammerhead Shark Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,119	1) How long did it take them to arrive for a usual 3-5 day arrival (did it actually take 3-5)? I ordered mine for provantage.com, I submitted a wrong phone number and they held my order, my mom called them on a Tuesday, I got them on Wednesday. 2) Please go to MY ROOM to see pictures of my room to see if you think my placement idea is ok! I say buy some longer wire, and attach your two satellites to the wall behind your bed, just flip over the base of the speakers, get some nails or something and stick them to the wall =) 3) When I saw the demo at Best Buy, that M3D button only seemed to make sound come out of the front 2 speakers - I thought it made it a surround sound experience for usual 2 output channel things (like some DVDs and CDs). It even says on Logitech: "With our exclusive M3D Matrix technology, you experience amazingly realistic surround sound from standard 2-channel stereo sound sources such as music CDs and MP3 files." Then why did I only hear it on 2 speakers? Blah 4) Is a fan on the sub really necessary? I don't need a fan for my sub...your room doesn't look packed either, it should get enough ventillation. 5) How long is a good "break in" period? I turned mine past halfway within the first hour of getting them. I don't really turn them up all the way, no need. Just don't abuse your speakers to the point where the music hurts your ears but yet you're still jamming the speakers. 6) If the sub goes bad, is their support friendly? Don't know, haven't had to return my set. 7) Do they kick !?* Yup. __________________ txforums.com If you're from Texas, check it out. Currently at 200x9 @ 6-2-2-2: Silver Aluminium Chieftec Dragon Case\| Antec Truepower 430watt psu \| Asus A7N8X Deluxe Athlon XP 1600+@1.8 \| Corsair TwinX512-3200LLPT \| Leadtek Geforce 2 Pro \| ATI TV Wonder VE Western Digital 1000JB \| Seagate 40gig Barracuda IV \| Lite-On 48x/24x/48x \| Toshiba 16x DVD-rom Sony floppy disk drive \| Samsung Syncmaster 955df \| Logitech Z-560 \| SLK-800 with Smart Case Fan II

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02-26-2002, 10:45 PM	#4
adamff7 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 322	i said it once before... yo dave, i am did the same thing... works great and you don't have to get stands. go to my site to see it (look in my signiture) my bed, however, is a bit higher than yours and i have set mine up so that the almost look natural to the bed (most people don't even know they are there) Good palcement though, if you can tie them down. about the support...i wouldn't know, i got them 4 months ago and have blsted the HELL out of them and they sound great and the sub booms like a *****. just to be on hte safe side though... don;t blast them until you've had them for about a month, for that will give them time to break in... also, one last thing... are those birthday balloons?? 18? man, get a new room. and some dead animals to hang on the walls. LOL i love the south.... (see my site below and go to "my rig" to know what i'm talking about. let me know what you think ok?)