GeForce FX, No Post, Only Gurus Need Apply

[littlemeister]

I don't know how much your allowed to post in a topic but im going to post the IRC transcript with someone who knows a bit about comp's and he was unable to come up with a solution, I realise it's a long read but there are others with this problem as well and I've came across no solution for it

me = chris``
him = sense

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<chris``> im having a hardware problem geforce fx 5200 to be exact
<chris``> anyone good w/ hardware here?
<sense> why did you get that card
<chris``> i didn't roommate did
<chris``> i have one also tho, but this is concerning his
<sense> whats the problem?
<chris``> why what would you of recommended?
<chris``> no post
<chris``> card works
<chris``> tried it in mine
<sense> what card did you have before?
<chris``> heh a shiiiiiiiiity v3
<chris``> his geforce won't post in his comp but it will in mine
<sense> how much did you pay/?
<chris``> he paid 98 for his, i paid 158 for mine like a moron
<sense> lol
<chris``> im sure you can get it for 40-60 off pricewatch
<chris``> but back to the problem pls heh, we have tried literally everything
<sense> i would have got like a gf4 4200 instead
<sense> and oc it
<sense> what are his specs?
<chris``> new bios revision, tinkered with the bios to no end. unplugged his hardware everything except card
<sense> card+ memory you need the memory to post
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<sense> and cpu of course
<chris``> yeah
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<chris``> basically everything except the essentials
<sense> does it beep or what
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<chris``> he has a motherboard, and what is odd is ive saw others from forums who had this very problem who also had the board that uses the sdram/ddram architecture
<chris``> where you can use both types of ram
<chris``> no beep
<chris``> a deadness, the agp card fan spins up
<sense> no beep? wth
<chris``> hd lights up
<chris``> yeah heh
<chris``> no beep
<sense> what size is the psu?
<chris``> 300w
<sense> do you have a multimeter handy?
<chris``> its sufficient enough even though its not much
<sense> i wonder what the rails are
<chris``> nope unfortunately
<chris``> heh
<sense> does the board have onboard video?
<chris``> the bios does have a 'agp comp driv' function, but i need to find out which setting correlates to which voltage
<chris``> nope that wuld of been my first guesstimate if it did.. we disabled everything that it -does- have onboard tho
<chris``> which is lan and a modem
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<chris``> tried to run it in 1x too
<chris``> nothing..
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<sense> does your video card work in his rig?
<sense> you said you tried his in yours
<chris``> no.. which is the only thing that even gives me the impression it could be motherboard related, or either nvidia specific
<sense> but did you try yours in his
<chris``> yep
<chris``> er i mean i did try it in his
<chris``> but the same effects
<chris``> as his card
<sense> k
<sense> did he have another card
<sense> that worked
<chris``> but i dont know the card is obviously getting power
<sense> prior to this
<chris``> not agp unfortunately, just pci
<sense> damn
<chris``> this motherboard is new as well, not older then a few weeks
<sense> cause the agp slot
<sense> could be bad
<sense> but i dont get why it wouldnt beep
<chris``> exactly
<sense> if it doesnt show video
<chris``> thats the kicker, it'd give a no video beep
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<haze> is this tournament single elimination allt he way through?
<chris``> so essentially im left to believe it sees a card there and it should be operable but theres a bios setting that is somehow not set right
<sense> no
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<sense> if you set the bios
<sense> to default
<haze> who were you talking to?
<sense> it should post up
<sense> you
<sense> haze
<chris``> and what that setting is i dont know, it HAS to be the agp comp driving which you can set the juice it gets manually instead of auto, it may just not be getting neough juice to kick up
<haze> what round does it start double elim?
<sense> bios defaults + a agp card
<sense> should work
<sense> without having to set a special
<sense> settings
<sense> so there is something else wrong
<sense> i think final 8
<sense> or 4
<haze> o
<chris``> yeah.. but now that its not.. i mean on the one hand i do believe the agp slot could be bad but on the other id ont know. it does see the card and the bios gives no beep heh
<sense> you dont know for a fact
<sense> it sees the card
<chris``> well..
<sense> fan spinning up
<sense> doesnt mean it sees it
<chris``> if it didnt see it id assume you'd get a 'no video' error code
<chris``> you unhook the card and you get it
<sense> if the board is bad though you might not get that error code
<chris``> yeah..
<sense> no card you get a beep?
<chris``> yeah the typical no video beep
<sense> what psu do you have?
<sense> brand make model
<chris``> manufacture wise?
<haze> Speakeasy.net - CHI Q3 CPM (1.11)|31ms|64.81.159.135:27961
<haze> anyone?
<chris``> oh im not sure of his, he gave up on it a few mins ago he's in bed
<sense> how about yours?
<chris``> eh, sec
<onyx> [ 66.92.224.135:27961 ] ping:30ms map:cpm11a players:0/17/2 [ Speakeasy.net - PHL Q3 CPM (1.11) ]
<onyx> how about there
<onyx> hehe
<chris``> haha 'valu-line' get this, not 300w, 250 Watts
<chris``> saw the model but dont remember
<onyx> [ 64.81.159.135:27961 ] ping:50ms map:cpm15 players:1/17/2 [ Speakeasy.net - CHI Q3 CPM (1.11) ]
<chris``> my psu is also 3 1/2 years old :>
<chris``> his is brand new
<chris``> 300 w
<sense> one thing to try is put yours in his
<sense> see what happens
<chris``> yeah sounds like the last thing to try
<sense> not much else to do
<sense> other than try a bigger psu
<sense> like an antec 430 tru power
<sense> if that doesnt work
<sense> something must be wrong
<sense> with that board
<chris``> well see
<chris``> other ppl who posted problems that had the same things
<sense> or try a diff agp card
<sense> one thats older
<sense> like a gf2
<sense> or something
<chris``> like 'novideo and also no beep' had the sdram/ddram architecture, something tells me it has something to do with this
<chris``> cant explain what but i dunno
<sense> they didnt offer any advice
<sense> or a solution?
<chris``> no heh ppl just kept posting with the same problems
<chris``> apparently it isnt limited to my roomates computer, guess what? most were nvidia based cards as well
<sense> who makes the board?
<chris``> eh the motherboard or the 3rd party manufacturer on his nvidia card?
<sense> the motherboard
<chris``> pcchips heh, the motherboard manufacturer (spare me the that sux) i know the board isnt hot
<chris``> but the facts are, my motherboard is a knockoff brand as well
<sense> never heard of it
<sense> hrm
<chris``> i dunno im stumped
<sense> what chipset?
<chris``> he sent in an rma to nvidia
<chris``> i just asked him vt something he dont know the rest off top
<sense> ive never come accross a problem like this
<chris``> me either
<sense> and ive built like 50 boxes
<chris``> heh
<haze> lol
<haze> some guy just joined the server and left
<haze> cause a 50 ping was to high for him
<sense> vt?
<sense> is it an intel or amd chipset?
<chris``> but i just keep getting the suspicion its not a mobo problem and i don't know why, i could handle an incompatibility explanation.. but i havent gotten that either
<onyx> it was me
<onyx> 50 ping is ***
<onyx> i'm used to like 20
<haze> lol thats pathetic
<chris``> oh its an INTEL board, like i said above its a funky mobo tho
<onyx> so 50 ping is *** to me
<haze> hope your not in the tournament
<onyx> same way as if someone had 50 ping
<onyx> and thought 80 was crappy
<chris``> its an interchangeable with the p4 and the celly
<sense> you dont know the board model
<haze> ill play you on phl if you cant handle a ping disadvantage
<sense> pcchip what
<chris``> m920
<sense> thats just manufac
<sense> k
<chris``> m920LR
<chk-putty> ahh
<chk-putty> red
<onyx> i'll play tommorow
<haze> my ping isnt even that bad i just didnt want to move to a different server
<onyx> it's like 6
<chk-putty> what are you usin to watch the movie?
<onyx> going to bed now anyways
<haze> Speakeasy.net - PHL Challenges Q3 1v1 CPM (1.11)|34ms|66.92.224.135:27962
<chk-putty> mplayer2 or wmplayer?
<haze> lol
<haze> a man of many excuses
<chris``> he's flashe dit to latest revision i havent came across too much help for the problem
<onyx> what
<chris``> im gonna post on anandtech and virtualdr
<onyx> you think i'm going to change my mind on going to sleep at 6am because you wanna play a game?
<haze> no dont relaly care
<haze> you join to play a game
<haze> not to come in and say you dont want to play with a 50 ping
<haze> well id assume anyway
<onyx> i didn't wanna play with 50 ping
<onyx> so i decided to goto bed
<haze> Speakeasy.net - CHI Q3 CPM (1.11)|31ms|64.81.159.135:27961
<sense> how did he flash it
<sense> if he cant psot
<sense> post
<chris``> put in his v3 card
<chris``> lol
<chris``> he has a v3 as well
<chris``> we both (had) v3's
<sense> ohh yea the pci card
<chris``> yep
<sense> why did you guys go off brand
<sense> how much did he pay for this board?
<chris``> watcha mean off brand
<chris``> he paid 98
<sense> 98?
<sense> omg
<sense> you can get a epox 8rda+
<sense> for 85
<chris``> oh crap hold up haha
<chris``> no not his mobo
<chris``> thought you meant card for some reason
<chris``> he paid 120 for the mobo and cpu
<chris``> it was a mobo+cpu combo
<sense> what cpu
<chris``> 1.8 celeron

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Sorry for the long post but I thought that chat THOROUGHLY covered all the problems i've been through and the whole situation really.

Any answers?

[Colossus]

Ugh!

That is long... I should read it.. But I find it funny that, that person is asking how much you paid for it... What does that have to do with troubleshooting?????

I will go back and read the log... Atleast you could of edited it

EDIT:
Im sorry I cannot read that... Its too busy for me...

Please list the specs and problems below From what I gather you are getting no post, beeps etc from the motherboard when using a FX5200

[littlemeister]

Ok im sorry, Im lazy for 1, #2 telling you all the steps we've went through im still bound to get the "Have you tried this variation" Which I have tried of course but did'nt post in that manner which leads to slow dialogue due to a forums nature... Ok here it goes

The computer is not posting, AGP card as you know, No error beeps from the BIOS, Appropriate AGP settings have been set in the BIOS,Every device powers on as if the computer was about to post but nothing.. blank screen, Bios is flashed to latest version, The card WORKS, been tried in my computer, I put my fx 5200 in his computer and the same deal, What leads me to believe that it is not the agp slot or mobo is in the nature in which the problem is occurring and the fact that I have seen others with this same problem.

Specs are basically.

Intel Cel 1.8 Ghz
250 or so MB ram (its roomies comp)
NO onboard video (Knew id get asked that)
Onboard devices that I thought could cause trouble I disabled.
its a pcchips motherboard, m920LR

Sorry the post was so long but to tell you the truth if I typed here the processed we've been through it's going to come out as long as the IRC transcript. Easy problems require little to post, a problem like this is going to require more. Atleast it will require enough in one post where I do not have to post back xx amount of times to get said what needs to be said from jump street

[LordOPain]

Originally posted by littlemeister
blank screen, Bios is flashed to latest version, The card WORKS, been tried in my computer, I put my fx 5200 in his computer and the same deal, What leads me to believe that it is not the agp slot or mobo is in the nature in which the problem is occurring and the fact that I have seen others with this same problem.

Specs are basically.

Intel Cel 1.8 Ghz
250 or so MB ram (its roomies comp)
NO onboard video (Knew id get asked that)
Onboard devices that I thought could cause trouble I disabled.
its a pcchips motherboard, m920LR

i think its the mobo, if it wont even post.. itd be different if youd gotten some response or the card didnt work anywhere else..

[vertices]

Yeah...I'd also guess the mobo. PCCHIPS mobos are the suck of all that sucks.

[LordOPain]

Originally posted by vertices
PCCHIPS mobos are the suck of all that sucks.

thats what i was thinking, i just hate giving that as answers..lol

[Adisharr]

The problem is that you'll need to insert the PCCHIPS motherboard into the toilet and replace that first. Problem solved

(My uncle had a similar board from them - all kinds of weird problems..)

[LordOPain]

Originally posted by Adisharr
The problem is that you'll need to insert the PCCHIPS motherboard into the toilet and replace that first. Problem solved

(My uncle had a similar board from them - all kinds of weird problems..)

im sure that'd fix it...lol

sry little' its just that PCChips doesnt seem to be a very well respected mobo mfr on this forum.
its not that they dont make a mobo thats functional (since they make alot of the OEM boards) its just that they are very "fickle" boards and the success rate of compatibility is perceived as minimal at best.

IMO they should just partner w/Via and make budget boards w/integrated processors (those yucky Via C3 processor chips) not that it will solve your problems..

[Takeda]

Originally posted by littlemeister
Ok im sorry, Im lazy for 1, #2 telling you all the steps we've went through im still bound to get the "Have you tried this variation" Which I have tried of course but did'nt post in that manner which leads to slow dialogue due to a forums nature... Ok here it goes

The computer is not posting, AGP card as you know, No error beeps from the BIOS, Appropriate AGP settings have been set in the BIOS,Every device powers on as if the computer was about to post but nothing.. blank screen, Bios is flashed to latest version, The card WORKS, been tried in my computer, I put my fx 5200 in his computer and the same deal, What leads me to believe that it is not the agp slot or mobo is in the nature in which the problem is occurring and the fact that I have seen others with this same problem.

Specs are basically.

Intel Cel 1.8 Ghz
250 or so MB ram (its roomies comp)
NO onboard video (Knew id get asked that)
Onboard devices that I thought could cause trouble I disabled.
its a pcchips motherboard, m920LR

Sorry the post was so long but to tell you the truth if I typed here the processed we've been through it's going to come out as long as the IRC transcript. Easy problems require little to post, a problem like this is going to require more. Atleast it will require enough in one post where I do not have to post back xx amount of times to get said what needs to be said from jump street

hmm, I worked on a rig before that had the same prob, the PCI card worked, but not the AGP. I removed the cmos battery for about 20mins and popped it back in and it worked, if you haven't already tried that, maybe that could do the trick. And if you have, maybe the AGP slot is fux0red.

[YoYoDyne]

PCCHIPS mobos are the suck of all that sucks.

Somebody had to replace Packard Bell!!
Before you get too crazy on the MB I would try a cheap PCI card first to check the board. They did put PCI slots on it didnt they?!!

[Colossus]

I wasnt going to start bashing PCChips... But even with my consultant firm I wouldnt even use that cheap crap in anything!