Upgrading---Cpu,Motherboard,Video Card..Help Please

**FFactoryxx** · 02-25-2001, 01:30 AM

I have a PIII-600mhz cpu and was thinking of getting a new video card,cpu and motherboard..I have it pretty much down to the Leadtek 32mb geforce2($160) and the Ati Radeon 64mb($170). Both have good reviews...Which card do u recommend for major 3d games like UT,Giants and the new ones coming out and heavy 2d games like RA2 and Ground Control. I have a Voodoo 3 in my comp. right now and it seems ok but want a faster card. What would u recommend for the long run or should i wait. Also if i get a new card would i notice a big difference between my 600mhz and a thunderbird 1gz.I was thinking of getting a new cpu but also dont know what to get.The motherboard i will probably get is a Asus via kt133.I have 128mb of pc100 ram already and everything else.What about cooling?I have about $500-600 to spend...Should i wait to get this stuff or buy now ..please give me your input.

[This message has been edited by FFactoryxx (edited February 25, 2001).]

**paintslinger** · 02-25-2001, 01:43 PM

well instead of spending alot on the thunderbird 1ghz. i would say got get a 650 duron and overclock it to 1ghz. i've have read many post of people doing this with theirs so u might want to give it a try. and as for video card. i would say get a 64mb geforce2 it would be alot better in the long run.

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**KamiKazi** · 02-25-2001, 01:44 PM

On the video card front the Radeon is an excellent choice. With the 64megs of DDR it'll be ready for newer games. On a cpu a T-bird is good with good cooling. I'd go with the KT7A Raid board even if you don't use the raid function you'll have a good oveclocking board.

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**ynd69** · 02-25-2001, 05:03 PM

Well how abou this.

Get yourself a nice i815ep motherboard like the Asus CUSL2-C. Get the Radeon 64MB DDR, it rocks (make sure it's the retail version, because it's clocked at 183MHz, the OEM is clocked at 166MHz). Overclock that 600MHz to 800MHz by raising the FSB to 133MHz!!! Make sure you have good cooling! Get the Alpha PEP66 version 2 w/Delta 38cfm fan! That's what I would do, your processor is fast enough, and overclocking is fun!!

Is your PIII 600MHz a Coppermine or Katmai?

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**FFactoryxx** · 02-25-2001, 05:24 PM

Im not sure what kind of proccesor it is. Also whats FBS?

**ynd69** · 02-25-2001, 05:52 PM

FSB - Front Side Bus!!

FSB X MULTIPLIER = CPU SPEED

Your PIII 600 is running at a FSB of 100MHz (100 x 6 = 600).

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**winky** · 02-26-2001, 12:45 AM

I would get the Radeon 64, and your mobo and processor depends on wether you want amd or intel.
Intel-Abit SA6R or Asus CULS2-C
OC your current processor.
AMD-Abit KT7a
Athlon 800@1000 or Duron 600@1000

With OCing though, you cant guarentee that you will hit these speeds.

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**Kero-chan** · 02-26-2001, 02:23 AM

i dont think you really need to spend anything on a processor right now. that's usually the last thing to upgrade if you have a decent system. the first thing usually is the vid card. i would recomend the radeon64 ddr over the geforce, but i would also wait a little while... i just read an article about how ati is releasing their card a little after the geforce3(which is really soon)

if you wait a little, you can grab the new radeon2 for probably around $300 or get a super cheap radeon since the price will no doubt drop.

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02-25-2001, 01:30 AM	#1
FFactoryxx Tiger Shark Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Richboro, PA, USA Posts: 618	Upgrading---Cpu,Motherboard,Video Card..Help Please I have a PIII-600mhz cpu and was thinking of getting a new video card,cpu and motherboard..I have it pretty much down to the Leadtek 32mb geforce2($160) and the Ati Radeon 64mb($170). Both have good reviews...Which card do u recommend for major 3d games like UT,Giants and the new ones coming out and heavy 2d games like RA2 and Ground Control. I have a Voodoo 3 in my comp. right now and it seems ok but want a faster card. What would u recommend for the long run or should i wait. Also if i get a new card would i notice a big difference between my 600mhz and a thunderbird 1gz.I was thinking of getting a new cpu but also dont know what to get.The motherboard i will probably get is a Asus via kt133.I have 128mb of pc100 ram already and everything else.What about cooling?I have about $500-600 to spend...Should i wait to get this stuff or buy now ..please give me your input. [This message has been edited by FFactoryxx (edited February 25, 2001).] __________________ "Don't Run! You'll only die tired" AMOS's Quote of Wisdom XP 2100+@2.3ghz, 8RDA+ 1.1, EVGA 6800nu, 1gb Twinmos/Ch-5, 40gb WD, Antec SX835 w/350watt ps, 19in, Liteon 24x40x12, NEC-1300a Dual Burner.Ohh yea and A FLOPPY!!

02-25-2001, 01:43 PM	#2
paintslinger Reef Shark Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: antioch, california & tuskegee, al Posts: 452	well instead of spending alot on the thunderbird 1ghz. i would say got get a 650 duron and overclock it to 1ghz. i've have read many post of people doing this with theirs so u might want to give it a try. and as for video card. i would say get a 64mb geforce2 it would be alot better in the long run. ------------------ 2 cases......1 bounce "i cant say that i will try but i will try to try" "Max powers...Nice name. Yeah i got it off a hair dryer" __________________ 2 cases......1 bounce "i cant say that i will try but i will try to try" "Max powers...Nice name. Yeah i got it off a hair dryer" MY RIG: AMD 3200+ barton 400mhz fsb DFI Lan PArty 2b mobo retail hsf( jet 7 on the way) 512mb of ddr400 128mb gf4 ti4200 8xagp(chaintech) 120gig maxtor 7200rpm 8mb cache lite on 16x dvdrom lite on 52x32x32 cdrw creative audigy 1 Logitech z-560s 400WATTS RMS! generic floppy

02-25-2001, 01:44 PM	#3
KamiKazi Tiger Shark Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 560	On the video card front the Radeon is an excellent choice. With the 64megs of DDR it'll be ready for newer games. On a cpu a T-bird is good with good cooling. I'd go with the KT7A Raid board even if you don't use the raid function you'll have a good oveclocking board. ------------------ KT7 Raid Duron 600@960 Modified PEP66T 128 Crucial cas2 Two 20 gig Maxtor drives Ati Radeon 32DDR Soudblaster Live Value USR 56k Modified Q500 case __________________ KT7 Raid Duron 600@960 Modified PEP66T Antec SX1030 tower 128 Crucial cas2 Two 20 gig Maxtor drives Lite-On 1210 Cdr Ati Radeon 32DDR Soudblaster Live Value USR 56k

02-25-2001, 05:03 PM	#4
ynd69 Super Shark Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In da great blue sea... Posts: 5,234	Well how abou this. Get yourself a nice i815ep motherboard like the Asus CUSL2-C. Get the Radeon 64MB DDR, it rocks (make sure it's the retail version, because it's clocked at 183MHz, the OEM is clocked at 166MHz). Overclock that 600MHz to 800MHz by raising the FSB to 133MHz!!! Make sure you have good cooling! Get the Alpha PEP66 version 2 w/Delta 38cfm fan! That's what I would do, your processor is fast enough, and overclocking is fun!! Is your PIII 600MHz a Coppermine or Katmai? ------------------ AMD Athlon "Thunderbird" 1.0GHz@1.23GHz (112X11 @ 1.85v) Global Win FOP38-1 (with Artic Silver II) Abit KT7 Corsair 128MB CAS2 PC133@150 SDRAM IBM Deskstar 75GXP 30GB 3dfx Voodoo5 5500 AGP ATI TV Wonder NEC MultiSync FE950 Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! X-Gamer Bose Lifestyle® 3 Series II system Pioneer DVD-115 16X Netgear 10/100 FA310TX Enermax EG351P-VE 330W PSU Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro Microsoft Windows ME Mr.White's Computer Haven __________________ ~ Duke ynd69 of the OC Crusaders ~ *System specs:* Intel C2D E8500\|MSI P45 Platinum\|OCZ 2GB DDR2 1066MHz RAM\|Sparkle 8800GT 512MB\|HP w2207h 22" Monitor\|Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 SATA 500GB\|Cooler Master Hyper 212 CPU Cooler\|Thermaltake Armor+ MX Series VH8000BWS Mid Tower Case\|Cooler Master Real Power Pro 550W\|Creative Audigy SE\|Samsung SATA SH-S203B DVD Writer\|Razer Deathadder Black Gaming Mouse\|Razer ExactMat Mouse Surface\|Logitech G15 Keyboard\|Windows Vista 32-bit Home Premium\|

02-25-2001, 05:24 PM	#5
FFactoryxx Tiger Shark Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Richboro, PA, USA Posts: 618	Im not sure what kind of proccesor it is. Also whats FBS? __________________ "Don't Run! You'll only die tired" AMOS's Quote of Wisdom XP 2100+@2.3ghz, 8RDA+ 1.1, EVGA 6800nu, 1gb Twinmos/Ch-5, 40gb WD, Antec SX835 w/350watt ps, 19in, Liteon 24x40x12, NEC-1300a Dual Burner.Ohh yea and A FLOPPY!!

02-25-2001, 05:52 PM	#6
ynd69 Super Shark Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In da great blue sea... Posts: 5,234	FSB - Front Side Bus!! FSB X MULTIPLIER = CPU SPEED Your PIII 600 is running at a FSB of 100MHz (100 x 6 = 600). ------------------ AMD Athlon "Thunderbird" 1.0GHz@1.23GHz (112X11 @ 1.85v) Global Win FOP38-1 (with Artic Silver II) Abit KT7 Corsair 128MB CAS2 PC133@150 SDRAM IBM Deskstar 75GXP 30GB 3dfx Voodoo5 5500 AGP ATI TV Wonder NEC MultiSync FE950 Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! X-Gamer Bose Lifestyle® 3 Series II system Pioneer DVD-115 16X Netgear 10/100 FA310TX Enermax EG351P-VE 330W PSU Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro Microsoft Windows ME Mr.White's Computer Haven __________________ ~ Duke ynd69 of the OC Crusaders ~ *System specs:* Intel C2D E8500\|MSI P45 Platinum\|OCZ 2GB DDR2 1066MHz RAM\|Sparkle 8800GT 512MB\|HP w2207h 22" Monitor\|Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 SATA 500GB\|Cooler Master Hyper 212 CPU Cooler\|Thermaltake Armor+ MX Series VH8000BWS Mid Tower Case\|Cooler Master Real Power Pro 550W\|Creative Audigy SE\|Samsung SATA SH-S203B DVD Writer\|Razer Deathadder Black Gaming Mouse\|Razer ExactMat Mouse Surface\|Logitech G15 Keyboard\|Windows Vista 32-bit Home Premium\|

02-26-2001, 12:45 AM	#7
winky Hammerhead Shark Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Texas Posts: 1,701	I would get the Radeon 64, and your mobo and processor depends on wether you want amd or intel. Intel-Abit SA6R or Asus CULS2-C OC your current processor. AMD-Abit KT7a Athlon 800@1000 or Duron 600@1000 With OCing though, you cant guarentee that you will hit these speeds. ------------------ Knight of the OC Crusaders

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