Raptor Question

**JKILLA74** · 05-24-2006, 04:08 PM

Is there any diffence in the new Black fancy looking 150 gb raptor and the regular 150 gb raptor other than the looks? I have a chance to get one now and the original is 275 with the cable bundle, the black newer one is $325

**RavenLord** · 05-24-2006, 04:15 PM

As far as I know older raptors only came in 37 & 75GB.
Anyway the new HD is native SATA while older vertions used bridged chip.
Xbitlabs.com did a story about it a few weeks ago.

**JKILLA74** · 05-24-2006, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RavenLord

As far as I know older raptors only came in 37 % 75GB.
Anyway the new HD is native SATA while older vertions used bridged chip.
Xbitlabs.com did a story about it a few weeks ago.

No I was talking about the newer 150 GB ones, there is one that sells for 270 ish... and a newer one, same storage space, but a fancier design, I wanted to make sure the newer one with the fancier design didnt have any performance gains. Other wise I would pay the extra 50 bucks!

**Soul Assassin** · 05-24-2006, 06:54 PM

There's no performance difference.

**kpxgq** · 05-24-2006, 11:25 PM

theres a review on newegg that says this... dunno if its true or not

Quote:

Pros: Specs and online reviews are great. I haven't actually received the drive yet so I can't comment on the performance yet, but I would like to share some info....

Cons: Pricey, unnecessary window.... More »

Other Thoughts: The window is NOT the only difference between this and the cheaper ADFD version. This one (AHFD) is the consumer version meant for non-RAID setups. The other, cheaper, ADFD version uses TLER (time limited error recovery) for RAID. Most drives perform extensive error recovery around bad sectors and the drive can appear unresponsive to the controller and be dropped from a RAID array requiring a lengthy rebuild. TLER limits the recovery to 7 seconds and then defers error handling to the RAID controller, which it is well-equipped to do. The point is you don't want TLER on an non-RAID drive! See www.wdc.com/en/library/sata/2579-001098.pdf. Use ADFD for RAID and AHFD for single drive setups.

Reviewed By: bently, 5/16/2006 4:56:39 AM
This reviewer reports that his/her technical understanding of this type of product is high and has owned this product for less than 1 day.
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**Soul Assassin** · 05-24-2006, 11:50 PM

The guy is a noob. Nowhere in that PDF does it state that it's only limited to the non-window Raptor. Simply that's a WD technology.

The drive mechanisms on them both are *the same*.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/02/...ead/page5.html
"As a matter of fact, the top cover part is the only real difference between both models, giving WD quite a bit of flexibility in producing either to meet demand."

http://www.storagereview.com/article...500ADFD_2.html
"As attractive as the concept may sound to enthusiasts, the two different versions do not feature significantly differing firmware. Creating and maintaining two code bases would increase overhead and product prices that would not proportionally translate into better performance. Here at least, differences really do extend only skin deep. Thus, given that the drives are mechanically and ********ically identical..."

EDIT: W.T.F??? Why on earth would "e-l-e-c-t-r-o-n" be a banned word??!@#

**James** · 05-25-2006, 03:02 AM

LOLOL

********

hehe

*Edit: Oh, and listen to Soul Assassin. He knows what he's talking about when it comes to Raptors. Even if I don't agree with him.

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05-24-2006, 04:15 PM	#2
RavenLord Hammerhead Shark Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,383	As far as I know older raptors only came in 37 & 75GB. Anyway the new HD is native SATA while older vertions used bridged chip. Xbitlabs.com did a story about it a few weeks ago. __________________ C2Q 6700 - Asus P5Q turbo 4G RAM OCZ - 1T HD Seagate Sapphire 4870 512MB - LG DVD RW Antac 300 - Corsair 550W - Logitech G5 -=RaVeN-LoRD=- Last edited by RavenLord; 05-24-2006 at 04:48 PM.

05-24-2006, 06:54 PM	#4
Soul Assassin Hammerhead Shark Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Heartbreak Hill Posts: 2,207	There's no performance difference. __________________ "The reasonable man adapts himself to the conditions that surround him... The unreasonable man adapts surrounding conditions to himself... All progress depends on the unreasonable man."

05-24-2006, 11:50 PM	#6
Soul Assassin Hammerhead Shark Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Heartbreak Hill Posts: 2,207	The guy is a noob. Nowhere in that PDF does it state that it's only limited to the non-window Raptor. Simply that's a WD technology. The drive mechanisms on them both are the same. http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/02/...ead/page5.html "As a matter of fact, the top cover part is the only real difference between both models, giving WD quite a bit of flexibility in producing either to meet demand." http://www.storagereview.com/article...500ADFD_2.html "As attractive as the concept may sound to enthusiasts, the two different versions do not feature significantly differing firmware. Creating and maintaining two code bases would increase overhead and product prices that would not proportionally translate into better performance. Here at least, differences really do extend only skin deep. Thus, given that the drives are mechanically and ****ically identical..." EDIT: W.T.F??? Why on earth would "e-l-e-c-t-r-o-n" be a banned word??!@# __________________ "The reasonable man adapts himself to the conditions that surround him... The unreasonable man adapts surrounding conditions to himself... All progress depends on the unreasonable man." Last edited by Soul Assassin; 05-24-2006 at 11:51 PM.

05-25-2006, 03:02 AM	#7
James Great White Shark Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Duluth, Denial, Only certain songs. Posts: 7,474	LOLOL ******** hehe Edit: Oh, and listen to Soul Assassin. He knows what he's talking about when it comes to Raptors. Even if I don't agree with him. __________________ Crusader for the 64-bit Era. New Rule: 2GB per core, minimum.* Intel Q9550 @3.20GHz \| Zalman 8700NT \| Asus P5K-E \| Intel X25-M G2 80GB 8GB PC2-6400 G.Skill DDR2 \| EVGA 8800GT 512MB 195.62 drivers \| X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Lancool K7 \|Silverstone 700w PSU \| Klipsch ProMedia 5.1 Ultra \| Windows 7 Pro x64 Last edited by James; 05-25-2006 at 03:03 AM.

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