Radeon 8500 or GF3 Ti200

**OutKlast** · 01-07-2002, 01:29 PM

I have heard all the things about the Radeon's having goofy drivers, but it's just so hard for me to buy a GF3 Ti200 when a Radeon Competes and most time slightly beats the GF3 Ti500. I've been a hardcore GeForce guy for a while, but I cannot wait for the GF4 to come out, my computer's going to be a paperweight on games with my Current GF1 256 32MB SDR. I'd be willing to over-clock either video card. Price Range - Under $200 shipped. I don't care about who has the most FPS as I do good image quality and smoothness, but at the same time I would really be disappointed if I went under 60FPS, even though in most games now I play I run 10-30FPS.

Games I play: Counter-Strike/Half-Life, Max-Payne, Quake III/Mods, Flight Simulator 2002, Need For Speed High Stakes/Porsche Unleashed.

Here's system stats:

AMD XP 1600+ (O/C to ????Mhz)
Abit KG-7 Lite
512MB PC2100 DDR
Dual 60GM IBM 60GXP's on Promise FastTrac TX2 in RAID 0
SoundBlaster Live!
Ton of 80MM Fans
in a Antec 1030 Case

**IceBlitz** · 01-07-2002, 01:44 PM

Get Radeon8500 oem.

or

"Wait for GF4, R300, Kiro3"
-- around 2~3 months --

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The world is doomed

**OutKlast** · 01-07-2002, 01:55 PM

Well I will be getting that when it comes out, I got some "Christmas" money so I figured I pick up one of these, use it for about 6 months then get a GeForce4 or other card for my birthday. And either drop this card into one of my other computers or sell it.

**GB_Cobber** · 01-08-2002, 01:22 AM

Some 8500LE reviews
Watch out for the slower clocked 8500LE's at 250/230 or 230/230 etc.

Even the 8500LE at 250/250 is considerably faster than a stock ti200.
The Ti200's ability to clock to ti500 speeds makes it the attractive choice it is today.
Overclocking the 8500LE is not very rewarding.

I'd still go for the 8500 on such a hugh beast. the 8500 sclaes better with bigger CPU's while the GF3 seems to close the gap on the smaller rigs. Yours is about middle ground so should see good use of the 8500.

Its trueform is one feature already missid by GF owners todayand ATI's driver are a good deal better than only a month ago.

Have faith, its a great card.

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Slot T Bird 700@833,1.75v,300w power,256Mb PC133 cas3@119 cas2
MSI K7Pro(750 Irongate)Super Bypass
ASUS V6600 Pure GF256 SDR 5ns SG 120/166 top speed 167/218 NV 7.78 , 12.90 & 21.85 Drivers,NVMax3
2718 3D2k1 (DF)833 165/216 12.90dvr, 2927-22.40dvr
MDK2 max 1024x768-16=115fps,-32=72,640x480-16=125

01-07-2002, 01:29 PM	#1
OutKlast Hammerhead Shark Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,618	Radeon 8500 or GF3 Ti200 I have heard all the things about the Radeon's having goofy drivers, but it's just so hard for me to buy a GF3 Ti200 when a Radeon Competes and most time slightly beats the GF3 Ti500. I've been a hardcore GeForce guy for a while, but I cannot wait for the GF4 to come out, my computer's going to be a paperweight on games with my Current GF1 256 32MB SDR. I'd be willing to over-clock either video card. Price Range - Under $200 shipped. I don't care about who has the most FPS as I do good image quality and smoothness, but at the same time I would really be disappointed if I went under 60FPS, even though in most games now I play I run 10-30FPS. Games I play: Counter-Strike/Half-Life, Max-Payne, Quake III/Mods, Flight Simulator 2002, Need For Speed High Stakes/Porsche Unleashed. Here's system stats: AMD XP 1600+ (O/C to ????Mhz) Abit KG-7 Lite 512MB PC2100 DDR Dual 60GM IBM 60GXP's on Promise FastTrac TX2 in RAID 0 SoundBlaster Live! Ton of 80MM Fans in a Antec 1030 Case __________________ Gaming/Work Computer: << AMD 3700+ :: DFI NF4 Ultra-D :: 2GB (2x1GB) G. Skill :: Evga 7800GT :: 36GB Raptor :: 485w Enermax >> File/Print Server: << AMD 1600+ :: ABit Mobo :: 1GB (2x512MB) :: 1 x 60GB IBM : 4 x 120GB Maxtor :: 3 x 250GB Maxtor :: 2 x 300GB Maxtor :: 400w Antec :: Total Storage: 1.89 TB >>

01-07-2002, 01:44 PM	#2
IceBlitz Goldfish Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Coquitlam, BC, Canada Posts: 81	Get Radeon8500 oem. or "Wait for GF4, R300, Kiro3" -- around 2~3 months -- ------------------ The world is doomed __________________ Strengths stock fan 2200mhz @ stock v-core (200 X 11) 2300mhz @ 1.75v (200 X 11.5) 2400mhz @ 1.95v (200 X 12.0) Going higher than 2400mhz is near impossible with air cooling.

01-07-2002, 01:55 PM	#3
OutKlast Hammerhead Shark Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,618	Well I will be getting that when it comes out, I got some "Christmas" money so I figured I pick up one of these, use it for about 6 months then get a GeForce4 or other card for my birthday. And either drop this card into one of my other computers or sell it. __________________ Gaming/Work Computer: << AMD 3700+ :: DFI NF4 Ultra-D :: 2GB (2x1GB) G. Skill :: Evga 7800GT :: 36GB Raptor :: 485w Enermax >> File/Print Server: << AMD 1600+ :: ABit Mobo :: 1GB (2x512MB) :: 1 x 60GB IBM : 4 x 120GB Maxtor :: 3 x 250GB Maxtor :: 2 x 300GB Maxtor :: 400w Antec :: Total Storage: 1.89 TB >>

01-08-2002, 01:22 AM	#4
GB_Cobber Great White Shark Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Adelaide Sth Australia Posts: 6,829	Some 8500LE reviews Watch out for the slower clocked 8500LE's at 250/230 or 230/230 etc. Even the 8500LE at 250/250 is considerably faster than a stock ti200. The Ti200's ability to clock to ti500 speeds makes it the attractive choice it is today. Overclocking the 8500LE is not very rewarding. I'd still go for the 8500 on such a hugh beast. the 8500 sclaes better with bigger CPU's while the GF3 seems to close the gap on the smaller rigs. Yours is about middle ground so should see good use of the 8500. Its trueform is one feature already missid by GF owners todayand ATI's driver are a good deal better than only a month ago. Have faith, its a great card. ------------------ Slot T Bird 700@833,1.75v,300w power,256Mb PC133 cas3@119 cas2 MSI K7Pro(750 Irongate)Super Bypass ASUS V6600 Pure GF256 SDR 5ns SG 120/166 top speed 167/218 NV 7.78 , 12.90 & 21.85 Drivers,NVMax3 2718 3D2k1 (DF)833 165/216 12.90dvr, 2927-22.40dvr MDK2 max 1024x768-16=115fps,-32=72,640x480-16=125 __________________ Q6600 (GO), Zalman CNPS 9700, Gigabyte P35-DS3P, 4G Kingston 6400 C5, Leadtek PX 8800 GT ZL (650/1800) 2x WD 500GB SATA, ASUS + Pioneer DVRW, Antec Sonata lll case, Samsung 226BW 22"LCD, Logitech X540 7.1 speakers, Logitech G5 mouse 3GHz(9x333), stock Vcore, stock cooler 3.2GHz(8x400), +0.050vcore (gaming, 24/7) 3.6GHz(9x400), +0.150vcore (3DMark01 60769) 3.8GHz(9x422), 1.5v min(set) (3d01 62926, 3d03 42285, Crysis High 1680x1050 34fps) Ouch! She’s hot!

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