Goodbye blue nvidia :)

**destinier99** · 01-15-2002, 05:22 PM

Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye.

Explaining: nVidia lost its throne.
Radeon8500 vs GF3Ti500 1-0.

Facts:
Radeon8500 gives highest 3dmarks.
That means it gives the higher fps in direct3d.

Radeon8500 also wins in OpenGL games, expept in Q3. Comparable performance in Q3.

Radeon8500 has greater image quality.
Features like Truform, HyperZ 2 and SmoothVision improve quality. Far better anisotropy. Better anti-aliasing. No S3 textures bugs.

Radeon8500 has better 2d.
Higher refresh rates. (85Hz in 2048x1536)
Accelerates 2d games. (no more display slowdowns in strategy games, diablo runs smoothly)

Radeon8500 gives the best DVD playback.
Supports iDCT.

Radeon8500 supports Dual Monitor.

Standard TV-out, DVI.

No driver incompatibilities so far. Optimised drivers for better 3d performance.
Good driver support overall.

Radeon8500 costs 299$ (retail price).

Hercules in ATi's side. Gigabyte may follow.

This is not a personal opinion. It is based on reviews and benchmarks.

After all, why should anyone prefer a GF3Ti500 instead of a Radeon8500?

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**sapasion** · 01-15-2002, 05:24 PM

I pray this does not get flamish

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**mystifmagic** · 01-15-2002, 05:27 PM

Good points, I too, hope this doesn't turn into yet another flame war; because thats all we need

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**TimisoaraKill** · 01-15-2002, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sapasion:
I pray this does not get flamish

War

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**cracovian** · 01-15-2002, 05:45 PM

Is it even worth responding to??? Don't we all know the truth; you know... about 3DMarks being artificial and promised but unsupported features on R8500?

Anyway, if it works and you're happy with the card then stick to it and get as much use out of it 'cause you paid $200+ for it.

We nvidiots have even less time to lose - our superior product was $300+

**destinier99** · 01-15-2002, 05:57 PM

Actually, i own neither a Radeon8500 nor a GF3Ti500. :-)
I just wrote some facts.
ignore it if you want
i'm keeping my GF2 GTS until R300 comes in life.

Peace

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**PegaSus** · 01-15-2002, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by destinier99:
Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye.

Explaining: nVidia lost its throne.
Radeon8500 vs GF3Ti500 1-0.

Facts:
Radeon8500 gives highest 3dmarks.
That means it gives the higher fps in direct3d.

=========

What's the price for a Radeon then ?
Or for a Geforce 3 ?

Radeon8500 also wins in OpenGL games, expept in Q3. Comparable performance in Q3.

Radeon8500 has greater image quality.
Features like Truform, HyperZ 2 and SmoothVision improve quality. Far better anisotropy. Better anti-aliasing. No S3 textures bugs.

Radeon8500 has better 2d.
Higher refresh rates. (85Hz in 2048x1536)
Accelerates 2d games. (no more display slowdowns in strategy games, diablo runs smoothly)

Radeon8500 gives the best DVD playback.
Supports iDCT.

Radeon8500 supports Dual Monitor.

Standard TV-out, DVI.

No driver incompatibilities so far. Optimised drivers for better 3d performance.
Good driver support overall.

Radeon8500 costs 299$ (retail price).

Hercules in ATi's side. Gigabyte may follow.

This is not a personal opinion. It is based on reviews and benchmarks.

After all, why should anyone prefer a GF3Ti500 instead of a Radeon8500?

**PegaSus** · 01-15-2002, 06:03 PM

Is a Radeon expensive ?
Or is it cheap ?

same question i have for the Geforce3

**destinier99** · 01-15-2002, 06:14 PM

Radeon8500's cheaper than a GF3 or a GF3Ti500. Comparable prices with GF3Ti200.( i think so, correct me if i'm wrong)

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**Skywize** · 01-15-2002, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PegaSus:
Is a Radeon expensive ?
Or is it cheap ?

same question i have for the Geforce3

Depends on your definition of cheap :P
Radeon 8500 and GeForce3 Ti 200 can be had for 170-200$. Standard old GeForce3 goes slightly higher than 200$, the Ti 500 is still above 300 I think and if you want a Radeon 8500 All In Wonder you can shell out 400$ :P (or close to it)

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**Skywize** · 01-15-2002, 06:19 PM

Considering the Radeon came out well after the GeForce3 it would have been a shame if it was slower :P (kinda like the P4 limping behind the XP

)

What happens once the GeForce4 is unleashed remains to be seen.

(oh why oh why did 3dfx fold

Voodoo 6 sniff byebye

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cw · 01-15-2002, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Facts:
Radeon8500 gives highest 3dmarks.
That means it gives the higher fps in direct3d.

If you really believe that than with your ignorance you deserve an ATI card

**gateways_rule** · 01-15-2002, 06:23 PM

People can buy whatever they choose. I still like my 64mb GeForce 2 GTS.

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**destinier99** · 01-15-2002, 06:26 PM

ignorance means i dont know my ****. well, at least i know what i did: let the 3rd world war begin!!

cw bring facts, not hypes

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**sapasion** · 01-15-2002, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cracovian:
Is it even worth responding to???

No, Most of us could poke holes in the facts presented in post #1 of this thread. Just walk away. I bet this one does make it to tomorrow

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01-15-2002, 05:57 PM	#6
destinier99 Tiger Shark Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 643	Actually, i own neither a Radeon8500 nor a GF3Ti500. :-) I just wrote some facts. ignore it if you want i'm keeping my GF2 GTS until R300 comes in life. Peace ------------------ knowing the past we can change the future - DeStiN __________________ knowing the past we can change the future - DeStiN

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01-15-2002, 05:22 PM	#1
destinier99 Tiger Shark Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 643	Goodbye blue nvidia :) Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Explaining: nVidia lost its throne. Radeon8500 vs GF3Ti500 1-0. Facts: Radeon8500 gives highest 3dmarks. That means it gives the higher fps in direct3d. Radeon8500 also wins in OpenGL games, expept in Q3. Comparable performance in Q3. Radeon8500 has greater image quality. Features like Truform, HyperZ 2 and SmoothVision improve quality. Far better anisotropy. Better anti-aliasing. No S3 textures bugs. Radeon8500 has better 2d. Higher refresh rates. (85Hz in 2048x1536) Accelerates 2d games. (no more display slowdowns in strategy games, diablo runs smoothly) Radeon8500 gives the best DVD playback. Supports iDCT. Radeon8500 supports Dual Monitor. Standard TV-out, DVI. No driver incompatibilities so far. Optimised drivers for better 3d performance. Good driver support overall. Radeon8500 costs 299$ (retail price). Hercules in ATi's side. Gigabyte may follow. This is not a personal opinion. It is based on reviews and benchmarks. After all, why should anyone prefer a GF3Ti500 instead of a Radeon8500? ------------------ knowing the past we can change the future - DeStiN __________________ knowing the past we can change the future - DeStiN

01-15-2002, 06:14 PM	#9
destinier99 Tiger Shark Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 643	Radeon8500's cheaper than a GF3 or a GF3Ti500. Comparable prices with GF3Ti200.( i think so, correct me if i'm wrong) ------------------ knowing the past we can change the future - DeStiN __________________ knowing the past we can change the future - DeStiN

01-15-2002, 06:19 PM	#11
Skywize Hammerhead Shark Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: PA, USA Posts: 2,980	Considering the Radeon came out well after the GeForce3 it would have been a shame if it was slower :P (kinda like the P4 limping behind the XP ) What happens once the GeForce4 is unleashed remains to be seen. (oh why oh why did 3dfx fold Voodoo 6 sniff byebye ) ------------------ Athlon XP 1900+ ABIT KR7A-RAID 512MB PC2100 DDR 2x60gig Maxtor ATA100 HD LG GCE-8160B 16x-10x-40x Pioneer DVD-113 VisionTek GeForce3 SBLive Value 3COM 10/100 ethernet __________________ A64 3700+ (San Diego) ABIT KN8 SLI 2x512MB PC 3200 DDR 2x BFG GeForce 7600 GT SLI (9572 3DMark 2k5) SB Audigy 250gig Maxtor Maxline Plus II SATA HD Viewsonic VA1912wb

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gateways_rule GO BENGALS!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Ohio,USA Posts: 8,236	People can buy whatever they choose. I still like my 64mb GeForce 2 GTS. ------------------ Gateway Performance 1000: 1ghz P3 256 MB RAM 64MB GeForce2 GTS 45 GB Harddrive (IBM) 16x DVD (Pioneer) 8x CD-Burner (Philips) Sound Blaster Live! 19" monitor 3COM 10/100 Mbps NIC (3C905B-TX-NM) WATCHNET wireless internet

01-15-2002, 06:26 PM	#14
destinier99 Tiger Shark Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 643	ignorance means i dont know my ****. well, at least i know what i did: let the 3rd world war begin!! cw bring facts, not hypes ------------------ knowing the past we can change the future - DeStiN __________________ knowing the past we can change the future - DeStiN

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