PS2

[Scuttle]

HHHOOOORRRRAAAAHHHH!!! Sony have just sent me a letter saying my PS2 will be here by 1st december. For those who don't know sony introduced a pre-order scheme in the U.K on a first come first served basis. And mine will be here within a week of launch. I'm so happy i could cry, but i wont cus that would be silly so i'm going to dance like a ballerina instead!

[alphaash]

Don't get too happy just yet..... My friend got his, and it sucks...... BIG TIME. He feels like he has been robbed, would have been better sticking with his Dreamcast and just buying some more games. (His words, not mine). I have played it too, and it is seriously disapointing, and the DVD playback sucks ***.

[Sol]

Originally posted by alphaash:
Don't get too happy just yet..... My friend got his, and it sucks...... BIG TIME. He feels like he has been robbed, would have been better sticking with his Dreamcast and just buying some more games. (His words, not mine). I have played it too, and it is seriously disapointing, and the DVD playback sucks ***.

What games have you played? Have you played the games that will make it worth it yet? lets say... Metal Gear? the next Final Fantasy? probably not. So dont pass judgement so fast.

[SYST3M]

but none of those games are out yet... that's why i am going to wait for a while before i get mine.

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[Scuttle]

I've played SSX snowboarding, got Tekken Tag and got a demo of ISS its fantastic. How can u say its crap. The DVD also is great y do u think that its so bad.

[Sol]

Originally posted by SYST3M:
but none of those games are out yet... that's why i am going to wait for a while before i get mine.

Yeah, but for someoen to say its crap and
and it sucks. Saying to stick with the dreamcast, well, personally, I dont like the dreamcast, but to each his own.

[Housen Maratouk]

Well the quality of the DVD playback is actually very good, though the controls leave something to be desired (even with the third-party remotes available).

As for the games, I think they are of pretty good quality for first generation games. Do you remember what the first PSX games looked like in comparison to the newest ones? Some of the current PS2 games look better than others, furthermore, just as some PC games look better than others.

Take a look a DOA2, for example, which is one of the few games I've seen that are actually on DVD's (most are on CD's, I have found). It has graphics as good as I've seen on any console game and in most arcade games.

All in all, I am pleased with my PS2 and think most people will be. The trick will be getting one in a shortage that no one is overly pleased about... with the exception, perhaps, of thosw who are taking advantage of people who are exceedingly eager to get one at any cost.

Housen

Originally posted by Scuttle:
I've played SSX snowboarding, got Tekken Tag and got a demo of ISS its fantastic. How can u say its crap. The DVD also is great y do u think that its so bad.

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[Secant]

Originally posted by alphaash:
Don't get too happy just yet..... My friend got his, and it sucks...... BIG TIME. He feels like he has been robbed, would have been better sticking with his Dreamcast and just buying some more games. (His words, not mine). I have played it too, and it is seriously disapointing, and the DVD playback sucks ***.

If you are looking only at the games currently available, the Dreamcast is very comparable. If you look down the road, even as soon as January when Gran Turismo 3 hits the shelves, the Dreamcast will be left behind. Shall we take a gander at the numbers???

Dreamcast vs. PS2
Apprx CPU Clock Speed-33MHz vs. 300MHz
Polygons per second-3 million vs.66 million
Media format-prop. GD-ROM vs. CD24x,DVD4x

Don't forget the upgradability of the PS2, it was built for the future, not today. Firewire, 2 USB ports, optical audio connection, component video, S-video, 8MB memory cards, future Broadband, talks of hard drives, and on and on....

And some will say, woopee, only 300 MHz. Many don't realize that the 128-bit Emotion Engine w/ 32 RDRAM has a floating point performance of 6.2 GFLOPS!!! My friends, a PIII 450 can perform a bit over .5 GFLOPS, 12x less..........

And if you think the DVD is not as good as the typical $300 DVD player, check the specs, I challenge you to find a difference. Sure it doesn't have the bells and whistles but it works great with a controller such as the Saitek, the one I use. Now the $3000 DVD player would probably be better but.........
And don't even bash the CD player, it reads every bit of info provided on todays CDs...nothing is left behind. If you want to blame the sound quality, it is probably your receiver or speakers that are the issue, not the CD player.

Patience is virtue.....




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[kreidel]

True Dat.....they will have some awesome games real soon!

[Duo]

Originally posted by alphaash:
Don't get too happy just yet..... My friend got his, and it sucks...... BIG TIME. He feels like he has been robbed, would have been better sticking with his Dreamcast and just buying some more games. (His words, not mine). I have played it too, and it is seriously disapointing, and the DVD playback sucks ***.

Well Dreamcast has been around longer so its games are better. Give PS2 some time and it will have some cool games.

Duo

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[alphaash]

One word for you guys - "Price".

[White]

Seems like the only people sticking up for the PS2 are the people who own one and don't want to advertise how they have put their money to shame.

[Adisharr]

Originally posted by Secant:


Dreamcast vs. PS2
Apprx CPU Clock Speed-33MHz vs. 300MHz
Polygons per second-3 million vs.66 million
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66 million raw polygons.. no texturing or any other effects.. It's been estimated to be more like 12-13 million.

Also the USB and firewire ports do not work correctly according to a few mags. If you plan on making the PS2 your main multimedia center your in for a surprise. Clever Sony marketing..

$ .02

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[Scuttle]

Christmas is over and now i have the full versions of both SSX and dead or alive. In reply to alphaash the price tag is huge but the game are almost up to the standard of P.C and i have 7 words for you. Metal Gear Solid two:Sons of liberty. has anyone seen this video, it is the best preview to a game ever! This is my one main reason for a PS2 and i got it now for all the good games that come out in the comming months.

[Secant]

Originally posted by alphaash:
One word for you guys - "Price".

hehehe, OK, I see....price is the sticky point, not the fact that many wanted the system, were not able to find one, and are POed beyond belief now that they can't get the PS2 yet? January through March should be a good time to get one, IMO....

And about that price:

Decent DVD Player = $150
Dreamcast console = $150
Total = $300

PS2 console = $300
Extra PS2 controller made by Pelican = $20
PS2 games on sale at Amazon = $45
(note, the game prices where on sale a few weeks before Christmas)

3 Million vs. 12-13 Million Polygons per second.....still 4x more for PS2...I didn't realize 66 Million was the raw polygon count, my bad.

Grand Turismo 3....delayed until March now

Metal Gear Solid 2...first game that will utilize "some" of PS2 potential

Time estimated until full potential of hardware recognized by software = approx. 3yrs.......(at least what I have read)


Patience is virtue.........

And no I'm not a Sony Hyper.....X-box is going to kick their a_ _ , PS2 is a filler system for me until the X-box arrives, plus I needed a non-PC DVD player...;]