Wondering release dates on these two games

[Schmunkel98]

1. Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle Earth - all I have heard is fall of this year

2. Rome Total War - sometime this year is all I know

Also, is LOTR:BFME supposed to still have that multiplayer feature where you could have consecutive battles where one outcome decides what size your forces are for the next one? For example, they said that players A and B could fight a battle and C and D would fight at the same time(A,C = same team vs. B,D) and then fight a larger battle later with all four people where the winners of the previous battle would have larger forces to bring to the table. I'm really hyped about this game and hope all the features make it in. I'm also looking forward to the latest in the Total War series to see how the multiplayer is.

[diamud]

I heard late Sept/Oct for Rome:Total War. Don't know about the other one.

[jck8r]

Don't think any date has been mentioned for the latter.

[Schmunkel98]

The LOTR game is the one I really want to see. There have been some dev diaries, but none of them mention any dates for release.