counter strike smoke

it didnt have a problem with the smoke grenade on my voodoo 3 but it really kills my fps with the kryo 2. i am getting 90fps average and when smoke is around it drops below 10, so its really bad.

are there any fixes for this. i thought it might be because im running 4X FSAA but i turned it off and still get crappy results.

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I suppose you've already tried entering "fastsprites 1" at the console during gameplay?

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I wrote this before and I was attacked, but I will write what I read in a review again. They said (I wish I could remember who, but trust me it was a review form a well known site) that its a driver issuse. Now I don't know if its been fixed. Do you have the latest drivers?

BTW I don't follow the Kyro too well, so if I am actualy wrong, don't knock me. I am trying to help the best that I can. Also just becasue I am a mod dosen't mean I know everything about computers.

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i also read that it is a driver issue with smoke from Kyro cards. lower the complexity...may look bad but no drop in fps. it always drops from over 100 to 30/40 fps when there is a smoke gren.

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thanks tu2, that makes the smoke look weird as hell and it doesnt help much.

i got a tip from someone else that told me to set max_smokepuffs to 0 in the console. that helped a bit. now my fps only drops to about 25 when there is smoke on screen. still annoying, but much better.

i have tried the latest drivers from both powervr and hercules. they both have this problem and my fps is a bit higher with the hercules.

anyone got any more suggestions?

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Originally posted by Vizer:
i also read that it is a driver issue with smoke from Kyro cards. lower the complexity...may look bad but no drop in fps. it always drops from over 100 to 30/40 fps when there is a smoke gren.

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how do i lower the complexity? is it a console command?



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LOFL your on a 1ghz sytem and you get slowdowns cause of the smoke grens in CS?Boy I never liked Kyro cards but this is just ridicoulous.

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Originally posted by home skillet:
thanks tu2, that makes the smoke look weird as hell and it doesnt help much.

i got a tip from someone else that told me to set max_smokepuffs to 0 in the console. that helped a bit. now my fps only drops to about 25 when there is smoke on screen. still annoying, but much better.

i have tried the latest drivers from both powervr and hercules. they both have this problem and my fps is a bit higher with the hercules.

anyone got any more suggestions?

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Smoke grens dont help?
Umm if you consider sniper cover not help I dont know what u do while playing.For example on cs_siege(i think thats the name I dont remember its the map they added an APC too)
Usually a decent group of Ts will rush and start AWPing,theres a simple solution for that throw a smoke gren they cant see shiet then u just rush in and throw some HE and FB and kill them.



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Originally posted by Ganja:
Smoke grens dont help?
Umm if you consider sniper cover not help I dont know what u do while playing.For example on .....

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I think he meant that my suggestion didn't help much on his fps problem - I don't think he was talking about the effectiveness of smoke grenades in battle.

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Originally posted by home skillet:
how do i lower the complexity? is it a console command?

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in the options menu. customize i think, can't remember.

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Originally posted by tu2thepoo:
I think he meant that my suggestion didn't help much on his fps problem - I don't think he was talking about the effectiveness of smoke grenades in battle.

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yes that is what i mean, i thought i had made that clear. fastsprites 1 causes the smoke to look more white and pixelated and my framerates stay the same for some reason.

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Originally posted by Vizer:
in the options menu. customize i think, can't remember.

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thnaks for the tip, this turns out to be the same as changins max_smokepuffs during gameplay. when i put it at 0, my framerates do increase during smoke. its morelike 25fps now, still bad but a little bit better.

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ROLF, I remember when my friends and I would call them lag grenades (this was CS beta) during LAN parties and throw it into estate's front yard to freeze the slower computers up! https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/08/2.gif Occasionally when we threw them in we would yell “LAG GRENADE!�, lol.

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[This message has been edited by beret man (edited July 18, 2001).]

geez ganja, how about just helping him instead of critising, he didnt ask to be called a moron or to get flamed for his computer and he didnt mention being great at CS, so why the hell you're *****ing I don't know.

as for the problem at hand. You can probably change some settings in the menu's of the game, I think theres a bar in the advancesd player setup or the graphics part where you can set the smoke complexity, that could help. It did on my system, guess not on yours.

I guess duo was right with the driver issue then though, if you can't live with it there's nothing more you can do than *gasp* lower the resolution.

or you could mess around with the source code and simply make the smoke invisible (since its a client side action it should be possible) you could probably make a .ini file and bind a key to an exec command or something, Just ask any aimbot guy to do it for ya https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/08/2.gif
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[This message has been edited by WhÃ*te (edited July 18, 2001).]

i think he's already tried the fastsprites thing(which is the same as smoke complexity i believe)
my advice is not to play CS though... i've managed to get some of my life back since i stopped the addiction https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/6.gif lol

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