Do you think we will see them soon?
I'm curious to see their o/c ability. What to expect? Cheap P4 2.0A Celerons hit 3Ghz? :)
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Do you think we will see them soon?
I'm curious to see their o/c ability. What to expect? Cheap P4 2.0A Celerons hit 3Ghz? :)
I think they will and I think there will be a 1.8A Northwood Celeron pretty soon. I read an article about it.. let me see if I can dig it up.
Here: http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Ar...ages=09&seq=68
Intel still has a lot of .18u capacity, so I assume they will want to use the Willamette core for as long as possible. Their current plans are to use the Northwood core at 2.0GHz in Q1 2003, since the Willamette core runs out of gas at that point. I only see them pulling this in if competition compells them to do so.
Arcadian
Well they are going to change the process on the next celeron but they are not going to increase the FSB.So it's Willamette not NorthwoodQuote:
Originally posted by Indus
I think they will and I think there will be a 1.8A Northwood Celeron pretty soon. I read an article about it.. let me see if I can dig it up.
Here: http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Ar...ages=09&seq=68
I think when they make the celorn nw they are going to keep the L2 cache at 128kb instead of upping it to 256
what are you talking about? williamette and northwood A's have the same FSB.Quote:
Originally posted by yiotis
Well they are going to change the process on the next celeron but they are not going to increase the FSB.So it's Willamette not Northwood
It's possible. Having much lower performance in Celeron gives users a reason to buy Pentium 4, and Intel will have higher ASPs. If competition is light, and Intel can get away with it, they might leave the cache size of the Northwood Celeron at 128KB. Just speculation, of course.Quote:
Originally posted by fbs1992
I think when they make the celorn nw they are going to keep the L2 cache at 128kb instead of upping it to 256
Arcadian
i meant l2 cache :)Quote:
Originally posted by deeznuts
what are you talking about? williamette and northwood A's have the same FSB.
Well celerons have always been better overclockers than pentiums. Also I think the 2.0A northwood celeron will have 256k of cache since Intel traditionally makes it 1/2 its flagship processors.
But looking at the willy celeron which managed to be overclocked from 1.7 to 2.2ghz if I recall correctly.. I honestly think we can expect 2.0 to 3.0ghz from the Northwood Celery. :)
Half L2 cache (256Kb instead of 512) how much does this affect performance?
What about its price?
In my experience cache doesn't affect that much of a difference. I mean its almost impossible to see with the naked eye. Sure #'s will till you differently but since I've been a die hard celeron buyer and fan.. I've been very happy with celeron 300A, 600 and now 800.Quote:
Originally posted by destinier99
Half L2 cache (256Kb instead of 512) how much does this affect performance?
What about its price?
As for price.. they're almost always under a $100. Can't beat 50% overclock for under a $100 cpu. Never have been able to. :)
cache does effect alot i think.. look at the difference between the p4 with 256k and 512k.. its alot.. the 512k gave the p4 the performance crown from AMD....and if you get a celery overclocked to 2.2 it'll be as fast as 2.0ghz pentium on a willy core... because of its lower cache..because the celeron is based on teh willy core but just with 128k of cache... trust me the more cache the better...Quote:
Originally posted by Indus
In my experience cache doesn't affect that much of a difference. I mean its almost impossible to see with the naked eye. Sure #'s will till you differently but since I've been a die hard celeron buyer and fan.. I've been very happy with celeron 300A, 600 and now 800.
As for price.. they're almost always under a $100. Can't beat 50% overclock for under a $100 cpu. Never have been able to. :)
but along with the extra cache intel upped the transitor count from around 42 million to 55 million which helped performance even moreQuote:
Originally posted by sharkypinoy
cache does effect alot i think.. look at the difference between the p4 with 256k and 512k.. its alot.. the 512k gave the p4 the performance crown from AMD....and if you get a celery overclocked to 2.2 it'll be as fast as 2.0ghz pentium on a willy core... because of its lower cache..because the celeron is based on teh willy core but just with 128k of cache... trust me the more cache the better...
A higher transitor count doesn't necessarily mean better performance.Quote:
Originally posted by fbs1992
but along with the extra cache intel upped the transitor count from around 42 million to 55 million which helped performance even more
but it does help in this case , because in all of the reviews the northwoods trounce the willysQuote:
Originally posted by BMGundam
A higher transitor count doesn't necessarily mean better performance.