Hardware or Software?

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02-20-2003, 08:00 PM
bugspop1

Hardware or Software?

I just upgraded my system to an AMD 2600xp, Asus A7N8x Deluxe, Coolmaster X-Dreams CPU fan, 2 x 80mm CoolMaster case fans, 450w Antec Power Supply, 2 x 512mb pc2700ddr for dual channel, ATI Radeon 7500 128mb ddr, ATI TV Wonder, Aopen 48x12x50 cd-rw, (Old hardware I kept)Creative 12x DVD, 2 x 40gb 7200rpm WD hard drives (waiting on the new SATA 10,000 hard drives to arrive), 3.5 floppy, very old ATX thumbscrew case from my first ATX (PII 350mhz), Running XP home! Everything running grrrrreat!
Anyway, upgraded my sons computer with my old hardware. AMD 1.4, CoolMaster CPU fan, Asus A7M266, 2 x 256mb pc2100ddr, Sparkle 350w power supply, 2 x 80mm CoolMaster, ATI 32mb Rage Fury Pro, Aopen 12x10x32 cd-rw. (Hardware he kept) LG 16x DVD, Netgear 10/100 LAN, 15gb 7200rpm WD hard drive, Internal 100mb ZIP & his old ATX case. He's running WindowsME.
Everything went fine with the upgrade. I did find 1 proble. After Windows detected the new hardware I was prompted to restart. When restarting the System HANGS! I can turn the computer Off by holding the power button in for 10 seconds, then turn it back on with the power button. Sometimes the Reset button will work but not always. Hardware or Software???? Any ideas appreciated.
02-20-2003, 08:37 PM
FunctionX

Hmm, I would find it hard to beilve that is a hardware issuse. The fact that windows was installing hardware right before it started to hang makes me believe that it is some driver or other software problem. Have you tried starting in safe mode?
02-20-2003, 10:06 PM
speedstream5621

Sorry, a little off topic, but you could have quite a gaming rig if upgraded that 7500.:eek: I agree with X, try going into safe and check things it because it sounds like a software issue.
*edit-did you mean 9500? I don't recall a 128MB version of the 7500.:confused::eek:*
02-20-2003, 10:08 PM
bugspop1

I removed all devices in Device Manager on the hard drive in Safe Mode before the upgrade took place, so it shouldn't be a driver issue.
Yes, I have started in Safe Mode since the upgrade, no conflicts of any kind I can find!
I have also checked settings in the BIOS, everything looked good.
02-20-2003, 10:13 PM
bugspop1

Yes, my new card is an ATI Radeon 7500VE Excalibur 128mb ddr.
Not a real gammer myself, I do a bit of video editing and photo editing, hence the RAM. I have quite a few games loaded on my system for the kids, but nothing requiring more!!!
02-21-2003, 11:21 AM
russ_watters

Quote:

I removed all devices in Device Manager on the hard drive in Safe Mode before the upgrade took place, so it shouldn't be a driver issue.

Nope. Sometimes you might get lucky doing that, but by and large you need to re-install windows from scratch if you do that much of an upgrade.
09-20-2003, 12:31 AM
bugspop1

A couple of months ago I upgraded my sons computer again!
Gave him a 40gb WD,then installed (Clean Install) WindowsXP Home.
This problem still persisted. Finally solved the problem though! I first tried another Power Supply, no luck. I then removed all hardware (Video card, network card, Hard Drive, Zip, CD Roms & Memory). Started by installing 1x256 pc2100 memory, video Card & Hard drive, the problem was gone. Added 1x256 pc2100 memory, still good. Connected Zip, all well. Added 1 then the other CD & CD-RW, no problem. Finally the Network card, problem again. Replaced the Netgear network card with a US Robotics, all is Good!
09-20-2003, 05:13 AM
barton boi

Thanks for letting us know, that 7 month wait killed me :p
09-20-2003, 07:24 AM
gkline

Probably have to re-install Windows ME on son's machine:(
09-21-2003, 12:55 PM
bugspop1

barton boi,

I always like to know when someone has fixed a problem, whether today, tomorrow or next year! Did what I suggested help or not?
I saw the post AlienTank made about Your first post ever.
I looked back, just of curiosity. I saw the post I made about my sons system, I had forgotten about responding, thus the reply. It was the network card!
09-21-2003, 08:28 PM
rimmerchant

from experience WinXP is very picky during installation.

1- remove all but one ram chip off your mobo. during intallation.

you can use this to make sure your ram is in 100% working condition

http://www.memtest86.com/
it will tell if there's any problem with your rams

some ram, in fact alot of bad rams, will pass the ram test during POST.

but when you use it you will get random program crashes when you use the computer. (I use to think that it was all microsoft OS but now I know better that it have to do with bad rams also)