im getting a new pc (asus p4c800/3.0c) and was wondering if sata is worth it, i dont want my hd to be the bottleneck so..can anyone suggest a good Hard drive?
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im getting a new pc (asus p4c800/3.0c) and was wondering if sata is worth it, i dont want my hd to be the bottleneck so..can anyone suggest a good Hard drive?
The Western Digital "Raptor" has a 5.2ms avg. seek time! And supposedly can run at 150mb/s on a cache hit (doubt it, but sure sounds nice). The only concern is its the first model SATA HD for them, but has a 5 yr warranty. See www.storagereview.com for a review.
www.newegg.com
Western Digital Raptor 36GB SATA WD360GD 10,000 RPM 8MB Hard Drive OEM
Specifications:
Size: 36.7 Gigabytes
Interface: Serial ATA
Seek time: 5.2ms
RPM:10,000
Data Transfer: 150MB/sec Max
Cache:8MB
OEM(Drive alone) 5 Year Manufacturer Warranty: Model#: WD360GD
Special Free FedEx Saver Shipping
$142.00
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go one way or another, scsi or ide. they actually make a great combination (couple scsi drives for boot and media you are currently read/writing, and couple massive ide drives to hold all those divxes and mp3s).
Points to ponder. . . I can put in a WD Raptor and nearly half my average seek time and double my data transfer rate for much cheaper than going SCSI. :)Quote:
Originally posted by pudad
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go one way or another, scsi or ide. they actually make a great combination (couple scsi drives for boot and media you are currently read/writing, and couple massive ide drives to hold all those divxes and mp3s).
Double your data transfer????
ATA150 is just a theoritical number.. You will never actually be anywhere near it!
The Raptor is a nice drive, but if it had larger volumes such as a Raptor 200GB then it would be worth to buy :eek:
I can fill 36GB with what 1/4th of all my mp3??? or maybe an OS and 10-15 games????
Its not that large... I dont like to split my partitions between OS and games.. I just backup my saved games onto DLT and reinstall the game and restore the save games :D
But IMO Raptors are the ONLY SATA drives worth buying... The normal SATA drives are about $60 more then the PATA version and they are slower!!!! Now how sick is that!!!
Well, I took the numbers from www.storagereview.com . The Raptor does about 63mb/s and my Maxtor does about 37mb/s sequential read from disk. I'm not trying to make a case for or against the Raptor -- just throwing out food for thought. For $142 shipped from newegg.com , I can nearly half my avg. seek time and nearly double my data transfer rate, not bad.Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
Double your data transfer???? ATA150 is just a theoritical number.. You will never actually be anywhere near it!
OHHHH... :)
I was assuming you were using some older ATA66 drives :D :D :D
My mistake... But yes the Raptors are nice, but I only seen them that high in a RAID 0 config
EDIT:
It might hit 63MB/s at the beginning of the platter.. But its no where near average :)
Nice to see that your sticking around the boards colossus :) My comp parts are slowly coming in from vancouver :D
Thanks.. I decided not to be easily intimidated!
Good! Because we need your knowledge! And I know that I will need it when I try to overclock for the first time!Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
Thanks.. I decided not to be easily intimidated!
Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
My mistake... But yes the Raptors are nice, but I only seen them that high in a RAID 0 config
I can hit that buffered read/write speed with my P-ata drives in raid 0. My average access time is 6.7 ms via Sandy 2k3. Not to stonewall, but I expected better from s-ata. I wish I could find the link comparing the Seagate Barracuda and the WD LE 8meg cache. It was on Amandtech and they claim it will be a couple of years before s-ata is at like 200+ speeds. Anyhow, the LE held its ground.
Some more points to ponder:
This raptor is prety impresive, seems like a 10K scsi drive optimised for desktop apps w/ a sata interface It holds its own against 10K and even 15K scsi in quiet a few benches. Yet it is not as good for server as the SCSI drives which are optimised for it. Both seem fine, and as long as you stick w/ silicon image for your controller, you should be able to get it working in linux too. I paid a little more and went scsi because it is a more robust interface, and I just wanted to learn more about it. But a raptor drive seems like a perfect inexpensive (relative to many scsi drives) alternative.
I think the Raptors rock for desktop systems.
For me, I don't store ANYTHING on my main rig. I just install programs and games. All storage is done on my File Server so I don't need tons of space on my main rig. 36 gigs is plenty for it.
So you get a really fast drive for only $142 and don't have to buy a SCSI controller or pay the larger premium for a SCSI drive.
It definitely depends on the situation if the Raptor is for you or not but for me it was the perfect solution.:)
yeah I would have had to get a new controller either way because it appear Promise is being an asss and not release specs even so open sourcers can write some freaking, plus my setup will be a halfass server once I go on campus and they give me my gimpyass domain (like freaking r45h142.resnet.blah blah blah.edu or some crap like that, untill I ask for a change).
Dunno what to tell you :)Quote:
Originally posted by drs1771
I can hit that buffered read/write speed with my ata drives in raid 0. My average access time is 6.7 ms via Sandy 2k3. Not to stonewall, but I expected better from s-ata. I wish I could find the link comparing the Seagate Barracuda and the WD LE 8meg cache. It was on Amandtech and they claim it will be a couple of years before s-ata is at like 200+ speeds. Anyhow, the LE held its ground.
I posted in General Hardware about someone who RAID 0 a set of Raptors on a ICH5R motherboard... I think it was 73MB/s
Not that amazing... I need to search for the thread...