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just like the jump from 486 to pentium (that had a reason though, it wouldn't have been straight 586)
They couldn't trademark 586,(they didn't want other companies to be able to name their processors identically to their own), so they renamed it "Pentium", a term that they were allowed to trademark. Otherwise P4's would most likely be called 786's now.
False, it will still be the Pentium 4. :cool:Quote:
Originally posted by yiotis
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Michael Kanellos, CNET
The next version of the Pentium 4, code-named Prescott, will enhance desktop performance through hyper-threading, among other changes, Intel's Louis Burns, vice president of the Desktop Platforms Group, said at the four-day Intel Developer Forum in San Francisco. Burns also demonstrated a 4GHz Pentium 4, which should come out sometime next year.
Its true.
Quarter4 2003
Intel Pentium 5 (Prescott) IA32 CPU is the 0.09micron successor to the Northwood core of the Pentium 4 due in H2 2003 at around 4Ghz. Prescott will introduce Intel's HyperThreading technology to the desktop (first introduced in Prestonia) and will also feature a number of architectural improvements, including an updated instruction set. Prescott is expected to feature an 800Mhz (200Mhz Quad Pumped) Front Side Bus.
Link to the above mentioned article
wouldn't Prescot be a chipset for the P4 or 5? like Brookdale for Xeon, hell im no pro at this so i dont know better
That site is so dumb, its still a P4 bro, just smaller die and fsb added. The northwoods have hyperthreading just disabled. P5 ahahahaahQuote:
Originally posted by Indus
Its true.
Quarter4 2003
Intel Pentium 5 (Prescott) IA32 CPU is the 0.09micron successor to the Northwood core of the Pentium 4 due in H2 2003 at around 4Ghz. Prescott will introduce Intel's HyperThreading technology to the desktop (first introduced in Prestonia) and will also feature a number of architectural improvements, including an updated instruction set. Prescott is expected to feature an 800Mhz (200Mhz Quad Pumped) Front Side Bus.
Link to the above mentioned article
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Pentium4 will be going to 10ghz so expect the pentium5 or whatever it will be named around 2007-2008.
The p4 CORE(actually the P7 core would be a better description) is expected to go to 10 Ghz, but that doesn't mean it will be called Pentium 4 the whole time. The P6 core went through 3 names(Pentium Pro, Pentium II, and Pentium III), but they were all the P6 core. Hyperthreading being enabled would probably be enough for Intel to call it the Pentium 5, since SSE was enough to change the PII to the PIII(that was the only difference between the two). The P4 be 2.5 years old by the time prescott comes out, and I would be surprised if it is still called the P4(Intel will want to make it look like a whole new generation of CPU has come out by next year).
Don't forget, with Hammer coming out(along with a new name AMD processsor), INTEL has even MORE reason to call Prescot the P5 to show competition towards AMD's new processor.
I think its entirely unfair to speculate at this point. In the history of processors, there have been CPUs that got a new name despite minor changes and other cases where a comparitively major update didn't get a new name.
Intel has not commented on a name for Prescott, but if you were asking for my speculation, I think it will be called something new. It will have been over 2 years since Intel released the Willamette core and it will certainly have the architecural tweaks to warrent a new name, and from the sources I've heard, its a very large project at Intel, on comprable to the scale of the original Pentium 4 Willamette. Keep in mind that this is entirely my speculation and it doesn't entail in anyway what Intel will end up doing.
I thought that Prescott would be a completely new core that is based on the Netburst architecture. I remember hearing that it sould have around 100 million transistors, that is alot more that the P4's 42. So to me it sounds like the P5.
Does the name really matter? Aren't you guys anxious for the Hammer more? :).
Along this line, the original Pentium was the P5 core, in fact when it was still shipping the Pentium was commonly referred to as the P5. Kind of opens the door for some confusing naming doesn’t it. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by steppy76
The p4 CORE(actually the P7 core would be a better description) is expected to go to 10 Ghz, but that doesn't mean it will be called Pentium 4 the whole time. The P6 core went through 3 names(Pentium Pro, Pentium II, and Pentium III), but they were all the P6 core. Hyperthreading being enabled would probably be enough for Intel to call it the Pentium 5, since SSE was enough to change the PII to the PIII(that was the only difference between the two). The P4 be 2.5 years old by the time prescott comes out, and I would be surprised if it is still called the P4(Intel will want to make it look like a whole new generation of CPU has come out by next year).
Don't forget, with Hammer coming out(along with a new name AMD processsor), INTEL has even MORE reason to call Prescot the P5 to show competition towards AMD's new processor.
Then again, Intel had no problem reusing the i860 name for its chipset. The i860 was also a processor Intel developed in the early 90’s and was commonly used in RAID controllers until it was replaced by the i960.
Yes and No!. I'm waiting to see how much a T-bred/ Hammer o/c's. If it doesn't strike my fancy, I might just go with a Northwood Celeron which should be out early next year. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Sgt_Strider
Does the name really matter? Aren't you guys anxious for the Hammer more? :).
Hammer all the way!!!I heard that the prescott will also have other core tweaks along the way and not just the bump in fsb and speed and a shrunken die...
Well yes its a no brainer but I'm a low end consumer of CPU's. I mean I'm not trying to decode the human genome and I don't game all that much. I use my comp for home office, and some fun. So I don't need leading edge technology. Celerons/ Durons are what I really look into, well okay I'm looking into Northwoods too recently because of the 50% overclock potential but I'm not building another system for another 9 months or more, so I have the luxury of time to see how the hammer/ t-bred/ p4 133fsb unfolds. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Sgt_Strider
Hammer all the way!!!I heard that the prescott will also have other core tweaks along the way and not just the bump in fsb and speed and a shrunken die...
Not for the first generation of hammer. I've got no reason to expect any smoother transition to the hammer arcitecture than AMD and Intel have had with previous transitions, and since 95% of the time the first generations of things have short lived sockets/limited upgrade paths, I'll wait and see how it goes. Why everyone thinks it's gonna be smooth sailing is beyond me, when history dictates it to be just the opposite.Quote:
Originally posted by Sgt_Strider
Does the name really matter? Aren't you guys anxious for the Hammer more? :).
Not to mention hyperthreading and additional L2 cache.Quote:
Originally posted by Sgt_Strider
Hammer all the way!!!I heard that the prescott will also have other core tweaks along the way and not just the bump in fsb and speed and a shrunken die...
However is anyone of you sure to answer my previous question?
i sure hope not..the whole 'pentium X' is getting hella old now....time to get a new naming system...
the P4 is a 768, but we just dont call it that anymore, like we called the old chips 486.
Yet Amd naming there Palimino notebook core Athlon 4 LMFAO, and the Athlon XP I wouldnt talk about names :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by retardedtimmah
i sure hope not..the whole 'pentium X' is getting hella old now....time to get a new naming system...
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Because numbers aren't trademarkable, which meant that AMD and Cyrix could make processors with the same name as intel(they did this with the 80386, and the 486). Going to "Pentium" allowed them to trademark the name and stop the other chip makers from making "Pentium"s.Quote:
Originally posted by patssle
the P4 is a 768, but we just dont call it that anymore, like we called the old chips 486.
Yeah..Exium is fineQuote:
Originally posted by retardedtimmah
i sure hope not..the whole 'pentium X' is getting hella old now....time to get a new naming system...
Good call man! I agree! :DQuote:
Originally posted by SSXeon5
That site is so dumb, its still a P4 bro, just smaller die and fsb added. The northwoods have hyperthreading just disabled. P5 ahahahaah
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I dont think they would change it again because of the resession and everything, and people just started to buy P4's to replace there P3/P2 so changing the name would be kinda stupid. But hell I dont care Im still gunna get it if its called Pentium 5 XP 5000+ ahahahahahQuote:
Originally posted by GeForce
Good call man! I agree! :D
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