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Ouch and 3dmark and games run fine at 2GHz on stock voltage :eek:
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Fatal error: rounding was .5, expected less than .4
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Ouch and 3dmark and games run fine at 2GHz on stock voltage :eek:
2.14GHz at 1.75v errors so fast, like 5 seconds. 1.91GHz at 1.6v takes like a min to error. im at 1.8GHz and no errors yet and its been 15 min :D you guys with xp1700s, 2100s, etc at 2GHz+ run prime95. Games are much less stressing than that :eek: even 3dmark can tolerate a higher overclock
well seeing that all you do w/ your computer is run 3dmark, I suggest putting it back @ 2Ghz. I mean, who cares if your setup is reliable, it only matters what 3dmark score you get in the end.
cooling will help with the errors.
okay, i will help with an example here, it is a bit extreme but the same principals are involved with lessor cooling.
my P4 backup rig has a very cherry 2.4, it is running with baldy's extraction device, something i invented.
anyway, i was extracting the air off the heatsink with a 130CFM 120mm Delta fan and using a 226w Swiftech Pelt to cool her down.
max speed for the processor was 18x200, but not stable.
changed the fan to a 190cfm Delta (yeah, it moves some air) and the chip now runs 6* c cooler (down from 13*c to 6/7*c at idle on a hotter day like yesterday) and also runs 3.6 gig stable and maxes at around 3.72gig.
so, what does this tell you???
better cooling=better heat removal=more stable
maybe you should make this a sticky for yourself.
you have been told by me at least four or five times and been PM'd on this matter, plus many others have told you the same.
hint, when stuff like this happens, don't tell us, it looks bad for you, especially since many have told you to upgrade the cooling, just run the cpu at a lower speed that doesn't produce errors or GET BETTER COOLING. how is that great 2000+ looking now???
baldy:D
Like baldy said, your cooling is the problem. However many BILLIONS of degrees your running at, it's way too much.
Don't be cheap. Go spend $60 on a SOLID HSF, or better yet, begin to dabble in some watercooling.
Tbird with watercooling, that's what I want to see. Where's the popcorn?:D
heh, this guy ocs an athlon w/ stock cooling? heh, I thought that was only possible for Pentiums, but even that is changing lately.Quote:
Originally posted by vertices
Like baldy said, your cooling is the problem. However many BILLIONS of degrees your running at, it's way too much.
Don't be cheap. Go spend $60 on a SOLID HSF, or better yet, begin to dabble in some watercooling.
Tbird with watercooling, that's what I want to see. Where's the popcorn?:D
i gave you a link to the AX-7 special about a month ago, $17 for the bare heatsink, add your own 80mm fan......................cr.p, they are still one of the best out there for air, even now, and it CLIPS on, no bolt through the M/B.
you can cheap out and still have VERY good cooling if you would just listen once and awhile.
"vertices
Don't be cheap. Go spend $60 on a SOLID HSF, or better yet, begin to dabble in some watercooling"
hey, please don't take offense, i know Mr tbirdy is cheap and would NEVER spend $60 on cooling..........................
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this is just another example of how frustrating it is to try and help mr tbirdy. just how many times can one try and help, give answers to specific problems/questions, provide linkage, offer insight based on experience, then watch them be ignored, and have it surface all over again a week or a month later.
just trying to help.
baldy:D
And FYI Tbird - that AX-7 is what I am using on my 2100 to run at 2.4 GHz.
please share your secret! i'm running a 2100+ tbred/AX-7 at 2158mhz (166x13): 66C load!! -- with wpcredit cooling hack! without the wpcredit, i'd be 10C hotter. :mad:Quote:
Originally posted by s1203372
And FYI Tbird - that AX-7 is what I am using on my 2100 to run at 2.4 GHz.
load is prime95 for 10 hours so far, no errors. but why the high temps??? AX-7 is a good cooler, they shouldn't be that high. i really don't get it. my 1600+ pal with this HSF barely hit the high 40s at load at 1.9GHz!!!
Its beyond me why you guys waste your time with this cracker...
:o
kirkyg
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Originally posted by serotone9
please share your secret! i'm running a 2100+ tbred/AX-7 at 2158mhz (166x13): 66C load!! -- with wpcredit cooling hack! without the wpcredit, i'd be 10C hotter. :mad:
load is prime95 for 10 hours so far, no errors. but why the high temps??? AX-7 is a good cooler, they shouldn't be that high. i really don't get it. my 1600+ pal with this HSF barely hit the high 40s at load at 1.9GHz!!!
The reason your temps are so hot is because that board reads them from the internal cpu diode... which means those temps arent really al that bad. If you want to see what your "normal" temps are... knock off around 15-20 *C from those numbers ;) :)
Tbird man I've been telling you forever that you need better cooling! That stability test was a kick in your 2000+'s balls dude!
Please go check out svc.com and put down like $20 at the most for a new heatsink. Like Baldy said, you can spend pocket change and come up with an Sk-7 or something else:)
Its Because That epox board was the only board that read from the CPU diode. So Knock off 10C and thats whaat you would get on any other board. So 54-55C is not bad:)Quote:
Originally posted by serotone9
please share your secret! i'm running a 2100+ tbred/AX-7 at 2158mhz (166x13): 66C load!! -- with wpcredit cooling hack! without the wpcredit, i'd be 10C hotter. :mad:
load is prime95 for 10 hours so far, no errors. but why the high temps??? AX-7 is a good cooler, they shouldn't be that high. i really don't get it. my 1600+ pal with this HSF barely hit the high 40s at load at 1.9GHz!!!
lol I did not even see your post. ops:cool:Quote:
Originally posted by lostlilchild6
The reason your temps are so hot is because that board reads them from the internal cpu diode... which means those temps arent really al that bad. If you want to see what your "normal" temps are... knock off around 15-20 *C from those numbers ;) :)
As other's have said, your board reads the internal diode temp (which is more accurate BTW), thus your 66 is about in line with my temps - 55 or so peak load at 2.4. That's using a TT SmartFan 1 as the cpu fan (53 cfm).Quote:
Originally posted by serotone9
please share your secret! i'm running a 2100+ tbred/AX-7 at 2158mhz (166x13): 66C load!! -- with wpcredit cooling hack! without the wpcredit, i'd be 10C hotter. :mad:
load is prime95 for 10 hours so far, no errors. but why the high temps??? AX-7 is a good cooler, they shouldn't be that high. i really don't get it. my 1600+ pal with this HSF barely hit the high 40s at load at 1.9GHz!!!
thanks guys. i knew about the 8K3A+ reporting higher temps (http://www.sharkyforums.com/showthre...highlight=2100) but i didn't think it was as much as 15-20C! but prime is going strong now for 15 hours, peaking so far at 70C (it's in the 90Fs here today though), and still no errors. so i'm going to take your word for it that it's about the same as in the 50s with another board, and not stress too much more about it. :DQuote:
Originally posted by Vengance_01
lol I did not even see your post. ops:cool:
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Originally posted by serotone9
thanks guys. i knew about the 8K3A+ reporting higher temps (http://www.sharkyforums.com/showthre...highlight=2100) but i didn't think it was as much as 15-20C! but prime is going strong now for 15 hours, peaking so far at 70C (it's in the 90Fs here today though), and still no errors. so i'm going to take your word for it that it's about the same as in the 50s with another board, and not stress too much more about it. :D
Temps arent bad... shouldnt be that high though. I remember I had an AX7 before.. and I upgraded to an SLK800 and my temps didnt go down as much as I thought they would, lol. But even so.. my temps never go up to 55+ anymore. what kind of fan do you have on the AX7? And also.. how is your case airflow?
Well tbird, after enduring your mockery of my broken nforce 2 board, it was a bit of a relief and "LoL" for me to see you fail prime95. Way back when to the time of about a week ago, my computer was stable. It ran at 2.2 ghz at 200mhz fsb, with the AX7, and topped out around 50C. This was at the most ram timings of 5-2-2-2.0 or something like that. I then ran prime 95. It passed, without a single error after a few hours of playing Super Puzzle Fighter 2 Turbo. Then, my board decided to crap out, so congratulations, your system is now more stable than mine!
BTW: If it runs 3dmark at that speed, why not post your score? I believe you said that your kt400 was faster than my nforce 2?:D
I told him to get a nice HSF so many time... goes in one year and comes out the other.
I run toast, its mega weee. I'm not oc'ing much now, to lazy to keep the fan on for the computer, so I knocked it back to 1.5 vcore @ 2.2Ghz. Its good enough for now. Hell I may just keep it at that for a few months, then when games seem slow I can bump out the vcore and add a couple 100 mhz.
I'll just toss this in cause I'm to lazy to start a new thread for it:
3dmark2k1 score with 190x11.5, 1 stick of mushkin DDR 256mb = 9047
3dmark2k1 score with 190x11.5, 2 sticks of mushking DDR running dual channel: 9242.
Thats with a Ti200, nothing optimized or anything like that just curious about the difference between single/dual channel.
i've heard that prime is the be all end all for sstability tests. If you pass, it's stable, if you fail, it's not. I have found no evidence to refute this. This is why i love prime, and hate it at the same time.
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Originally posted by lostlilchild6
The reason your temps are so hot is because that board reads them from the internal cpu diode... which means those temps arent really al that bad. If you want to see what your "normal" temps are... knock off around 15-20 *C from those numbers ;) :)
then my board reads from both the internal cpu diode and external because it reports 60c internal or core temp and like 48c surface at 2GHz and 1.6v at 2.14GHz and 1.75v its 75c/57c. anyway I will listen and put better cooling on the top of my priority list right now and purchase a heatsink/fan combo for $30 or less and before I buy it, ill have you guys approve that too. I will think of it as an experment and see how much it helps if nothing else it was research and proof that I have listened :)
oh by the way at 1.8GHz at 1.6v prime ran 12 hours, 45 min and no errors :D :D time for better cooling
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Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz
then my board reads from both the internal cpu diode and external because it reports 60c internal or core temp and like 48c surface at 2GHz and 1.6v at 2.14GHz and 1.75v its 75c/57c. anyway I will listen and put better cooling on the top of my priority list right now and purchase a heatsink/fan combo for $30 or less and before I buy it, ill have you guys approve that too. I will think of it as an experment and see how much it helps if nothing else it was research and proof that I have listened :)
Excellent job dude! Good to hear you will get better cooling! :)
I would recommend the Thermalright AX7 from www.svc.com for 17.99. And you can put a good 80mm fan on there (if you have one). If not... get yourself a TT smart fan 2 :).
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Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz
oh by the way at 1.8GHz at 1.6v prime ran 12 hours, 45 min and no errors :D :D time for better cooling
But that's only 133mhz above stock speeds... which isn't impressive at all.