Help with P4C800 Deluxe

Well, I've posted about this before and couldn't get an answer, but the problem is worse now and might provide more info towards a solution. At first I couldn't boot from floppy. However, I can write and read from it just fine once I'm in WinXP. Now I just discovered I can't boot from CDs I've made from the floppies :mad: These floppies (memtest, ghost, etc.) were good and worked well in my other system -- still do! I'm stumped. BIOS setup to boot from Floppy first, then CD, then HD. One other observation is that I boot from the drive on the IDE1 SATA port and was thinking it might be related somehow. Have Enhanced Mode Support On [S-ATA].

Hello there,
Sorry to hear about your problems but it seems like I have them as well.
The floppy disk issue, I think I have it too... the PC simply ignores the floppy until I get to the XP , then I can access it. Strange...
Also, I cannot install Win98se on my drive. I bought the Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 HDD which is ATA133. I do not know whether it is a Asus limitation, or a Win98se limitation, that it does not work with this ATA133 well..., I really do not know what to think.
Have you tried caontacting Asus on this matter?

Thanks,
LIOR

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Originally posted by liordeck
Hello there,
Sorry to hear about your problems but it seems like I have them as well.
The floppy disk issue, I think I have it too... the PC simply ignores the floppy until I get to the XP , then I can access it. Strange...
Also, I cannot install Win98se on my drive. I bought the Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 HDD which is ATA133. I do not know whether it is a Asus limitation, or a Win98se limitation, that it does not work with this ATA133 well..., I really do not know what to think.
Have you tried caontacting Asus on this matter?

Thanks,
LIOR

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Forget contacting Asus, all I got was a stupid cookie-cutter reply that didn't address any of my questions -- really disappointed with them! :mad: If you're trying to use one of the SATA IDE ports for your boot drive you need to set your BIOS "Onboard IDE Operate Mode = Compatibility mode. If not set it to "PATA".

The HDD I have is not Serial ATA. So how can I connect it to the SATA ports? Is it technically possible to do so? I mean, dont the cables look different? They should not fit into the "wrong" port, i.e. IDE should not fit into the serial port right?

Thanks again,
LIOR

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Originally posted by liordeck
The HDD I have is not Serial ATA. So how can I connect it to the SATA ports? Is it technically possible to do so? I mean, dont the cables look different? They should not fit into the "wrong" port, i.e. IDE should not fit into the serial port right?

Thanks again,
LIOR

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Oops, thought you were trying to use a SATA IDE port with an IDE HD and a PATA to SATA adapter. Anyway, set Compatibility mode and PATA in the BIOS and you're good to go.

OS,
I would like to know what does PATA mean... Parallel ATA? What is that? WHat is that different from SATA?
So what I have to do in the BIOS is set the onboard IDE controller to Compatibility mode and what do I have to do with the PATA thing exactly...?

Thank-you,
LIOR

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Originally posted by liordeck
OS,
I would like to know what does PATA mean... Parallel ATA? What is that? WHat is that different from SATA?
So what I have to do in the BIOS is set the onboard IDE controller to Compatibility mode and what do I have to do with the PATA thing exactly...?

Thank-you,
LIOR

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Main > IDE Configuration > Onboard IDE Operate Mode [Compatible Mode] > IDE Port Settings [P-ATA Ports Only]

OS,
You are a saviour man!
Please let me ask you something more please...
I have read int hemanual that WIn98se also does not support Hyper Threading technology that my CPU offers...
Will that be a degrade int he performance, that will be noticable?
WIll Win98 work without the HT enabled in the Bios?
ALso, does the fact that I work in compatibility mode in the Bios, will it make me have problems if I choose to dual boot with XP for example?
Will this make XP run slower because it is not on Enhanced mode?

Thanks again,
LIOR;)

>>I have read int hemanual that WIn98se also does not support Hyper Threading technology that my CPU offers...
Will that be a degrade int he performance, that will be noticable?

HyperThreading only comes into play when you are multi-tasking, like running a download and surfing at the same time.


>>WIll Win98 work without the HT enabled in the Bios?

Yes

>>ALso, does the fact that I work in compatibility mode in the Bios, will it make me have problems if I choose to dual boot with XP for example?

Sorry, don't know for sure, but can't see why not.

>>Will this make XP run slower because it is not on Enhanced mode?

No

Is Hyper Threading implemented in games?? Will it make my games run faster on XP when it is turned on?

If I turn ON the Hyper Threading and change the IDE config to enhanced will Win98se still work stable?

Thanks,
LIOR

This is strange OS-Wiz, my pooter boots fine from floppy or cd's.

I also have the raptor drive which is my operating system.

>>Is Hyper Threading implemented in games?? Will it make my games run faster on XP when it is turned on?

I've not heard of any games that have purposely been written to exploit HT, but I'd imagine there will be but don't hold your breathe -- it requires a major re-architecting of the code.

>>If I turn ON the Hyper Threading and change the IDE config to enhanced will Win98se still work stable?

You must run in Compatible mode when running Win98; here's your perfect excuse to move up to WinXP which can exploit HT! :cool:

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Originally posted by iLuminatae
This is strange OS-Wiz, my pooter boots fine from floppy or cd's.

I also have the raptor drive which is my operating system.

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Yup, I'm completely baffled. I'm fairly convinced its a BIOS setting issue, so, if you'd be so kind, please PM me any BIOS settings you use that you think might be causing my problem. I'd be grateful and could probably be talked out of several adult beverages if you can hit on an answer!

will get on that ASAP!! I need a beer tonite :D

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Originally posted by OS-Wiz
>>Is Hyper Threading implemented in games?? Will it make my games run faster on XP when it is turned on?

I've not heard of any games that have purposely been written to exploit HT, but I'd imagine there will be but don't hold your breathe -- it requires a major re-architecting of the code.

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i thought any game that takes advantage of SMP would automatically be able to use HT. so you don't need to redo the code from the ground up if it already supports SMP.

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Originally posted by qmul


i thought any game that takes advantage of SMP would automatically be able to use HT. so you don't need to redo the code from the ground up if it already supports SMP.

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Of course! I had forgotten, and now that you've reminded me, there are a few games that can exploit HT because they were already written to SMP.

WHat is SMP please?
What games were written to support this option...?
Still, will Win98 be able to function properly when HT is turned ON...?

Thanks,
LIOR

have you called asus? no offence here, but some people need to learn how to pick up the phone...

None taken, but I did email them... about a week ago ...!
Still no reply. In 2 days here I got a lot of useful info that helped me a bunch, so thanks to all those who gave a hand :-)
So, what is SMP now ...?;)

SMP = Symmetric Multi Processing

This just means a program can take advantage of using more than one cpu when doing tasks so it can do it quicker. This is a really dumbed down definition, but it is still true nonetheless.

Can you please give me some examples of games that use this SMP architecture?

Thanks,
LIOR

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Originally posted by natgun
have you called asus? no offence here, but some people need to learn how to pick up the phone...

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If Asus has a toll-free Tech. Sup. number, I can't find it.

Jeez, installed WinXP on the PATA IDE HD, disconnected the SATA HD, and disabled the RAID controller (which doubles as the SATA IDE controller) and STILL CAN'T BOOT from a Floppy. Weird that I can boot from the WinXP install CD but not the floppy! Still stumped, confused, crying very large crocodile tears, and comsuming large quantities of adult beverages trying to fix this problem!

Are you really having problems with the floppy...?
I had these too, the floopy led was stay on all the time (usually not a good sign) so I wend down under the hood, and checked the cables. Turned out the the stock cable that came with the mobo was connected wrong to the mobo itself giving this outcome. I flipped it's alignment and voila... floopy boots, shoes whatever ...;) All is good.
But I guess you had already tried that, so maybe there is a fault in the floppy drive itself...?
Hope this helps...

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Originally posted by liordeck
Are you really having problems with the floppy...?
I had these too, the floopy led was stay on all the time (usually not a good sign) so I wend down under the hood, and checked the cables. Turned out the the stock cable that came with the mobo was connected wrong to the mobo itself giving this outcome. I flipped it's alignment and voila... floopy boots, shoes whatever ...;) All is good.
But I guess you had already tried that, so maybe there is a fault in the floppy drive itself...?
Hope this helps...

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Thanks for your help. I've tried two different floppy drives and two different cables; one set of which I know works(took them out of my Server just after checking to make sure the floppy disk works). Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :mad: