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the fact that they call the Athlon64 a "rebadged Opteron" makes me skeptical.
The only thing this tells me is that Intel is probably having major problems with Prescott. This being 'plan B', at least for the short term. They know that the A64 is going to put the 3.2GHz P4 in a tight spot, and they know that AMD will most likely have a 2.4GHz (3700) or faster part by the end of the year. Seems like a reasonable thing for Intel to do, however, at the cost of production, it will definitely be a loss leader or close to it. Something that Intel as a 'technical monopoly' needs to be wary of.
Or it could all be BS, whatever the case, it is interesting.
Inquirer crap... Not worth reading :)
Anandtech has a write-up of the Extreme Edition P4...seems like it is true.
We shall see, when Intel finally annouces it or not...
But you do know that an extra 2mb cache is going to come with a VERY heavy price tag!
but of course you'll buy like the top end one and overclock it just to make us jealous
Not I, I wont upgrade my PC for 10 years!Quote:
Originally posted by RPG Junkie
but of course you'll buy like the top end one and overclock it just to make us jealous
how much extra performance would it be then?
They claim 2 - 20% faster, but it is based on application...
So it is hard to say... I can see some improvement, (SETI would love the added Cache!)... But Im not sure if the added pricetag of the cache would warrant an upgrade for home computers...
Unless they can those babys fly at amazing prices!
Riiiight :)Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
Not I, I wont upgrade my PC for 10 years!
I give you a month or two before you upgrade SOMETHING your PC ;)
not enough to be worth the pricetag. what an utter waste, looks like Intel is getting desperate, but then again there are way too many stupid people who will go and buy that when it comes, even if they have a 3Ghz beast, just so they can have the best. and look at my sig, it suffices (to an extent)
There will just be as many idiots buying the AMD processor at over $800 dollars too :DQuote:
Originally posted by muzikjunkie
not enough to be worth the pricetag. what an utter waste, looks like Intel is getting desperate, but then again there are way too many stupid people who will go and buy that when it comes, even if they have a 3Ghz beast, just so they can have the best. and look at my sig, it suffices (to an extent)
Your point is what? :D
Some people like cutting edge, some dont need it or think it is a waste of cash...
And no it doesnt mean Intel is desperate :)
yea it does... you know it. :DQuote:
Originally posted by Colossus
And no it doesnt mean Intel is desperate :)
Maybe you'll need a new motherboard to use it too. :p :p :p
Intel's Announcement:
http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archi...light_030916b&
If you notice at www.anandtech.com right below the new P4 announcment they have news that Prescott even with half the cache of this new P4 has more tansistors proving its going to be a major overhaul of the P4. Also they say Prescott is ready to be produced in mass and its yeilds are also high.
So it looks like Intel released this CPU not out of desperation but to win back the hardcore croud right before the scheduled presscott release(which is still on time).
[b]I hope they leave SMP enabled imagine 2x 3.2ghz 800mhz FSB 2.5mb cache on one of those new Asus i875 boards can you say holy ****? ;)
*drools*Quote:
Originally posted by Voodoo 5 5500
[B]If you notice at www.anandtech.com right below the new P4 announcment they have news that Prescott even with half the cache of this new P4 has more tansistors proving its going to be a major overhaul of the P4. Also they say Prescott is ready to be produced in mass and its yeilds are also high.
So it looks like Intel released this CPU not out of desperation but to win back the hardcore croud right before the scheduled presscott release(which is still on time).
I hope they leave SMP enabled imagine 2x 3.2ghz 800mhz FSB 2.5mb cache on one of those new Asus i875 boards can you say holy ****? ;)
Well ok, Maybe it wont be 10 years before I upgrade again :)
How about you set your goal on 10 weeks collosus? Its fair and although it wouldnt be hard for me it might be death defying to some.
What would you call it? The A64 looks like a great product but it is a "rebadged Opteron". Personally, I'm not sure thats a bad comment. (below from AMD's site)Quote:
Originally posted by eshbach
the fact that they call the Athlon64 a "rebadged Opteron" makes me skeptical.
Q: What are the differences between the AMD Athlon 64 and AMD Opteron processors?
A: The upcoming AMD Opteron and AMD Athlon 64 processors are designed for different markets. For the server/workstation market, the AMD Opteron processor will undergo more stringent validation and reliability testing. Another difference will be in the number of HyperTransport links embedded on the chip. The AMD Athlon 64 processor will contain one HyperTransport link offering 6.4 GB/s data transfer while the AMD Opteron processor will offer three links. The processors will also contain different amounts of cache.
Gosh you love to bash Prescott....Quote:
Originally posted by irwincur
The only thing this tells me is that Intel is probably having major problems with Prescott. This being 'plan B',....
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...915183339.html
"Intel will continue to push the CPU core-clocks up and the prices down early next year, as sources close to the semiconductor giant revealed. The mainstream Prescott processor at 2.80GHz will be available for orders at just $178 price-point starting from the 15th of February, whereas the monstrous Prescott 3.80GHz will come in Q2 2004.
You probably know that the next major price reduction will be performed by Intel on the 26th of October, while the pricing of the Pentium 4 processors will remain unchanged after the launch of Prescott processors at 3.20 and 3.40GHz this November. Probably in January Prescott chips at 2.80 and 3.0GHz CPUs will see the light of the day, but they will also not let the Pentium 4 prices down.
The Prescott 3.60GHz chip will debut in late first quarter at $637 if the current plans remain unchainged, the Prescott 3.80GHz processor will be launched on the Q2 2004 at the same price-point."
10 weeks???? In that timeframe, My 2.8c will be discontinued!!! I cannot wait that long!!! I need something new! Processor/Motherboard/Ram something!!!!Quote:
Originally posted by AMDHyp
How about you set your goal on 10 weeks collosus? Its fair and although it wouldnt be hard for me it might be death defying to some.
Intel says 3rd-qtr rev to be $7.6 bln-$7.8 blnQuote:
Originally posted by muzikjunkie
....not enough to be worth the pricetag. what an utter waste, looks like Intel is getting desperate...
September 04, 2003 4:21:00 PM ET
Desperation....
SAN FRANCISCO, Sept 4 (Reuters) - Intel Corp. (INTC), the world's largest maker of semiconductors, on Thursday narrowed its revenue forecast for the third quarter to between $7.6 billion to $7.8 billion, the high end of its latest forecast and even with or above what analysts expect.
On Aug. 22, Intel raised its revenue forecast to between $7.3 billion and $7.8 billion, from an earlier target of $6.9 billion to $7.5 billion. At the time, the company cited stronger than expected demand for its microprocessors, the brains of computers.
Analysts, on average, were targeting third-quarter revenue of $7.6 billion, according to Reuters Research, a unit of Reuters Group Plc.
The chip industry is seeing signs of a recovery following its worst downturn ever that came amid an economic downturn and slump in corporate spending. REUTERS
AND
SAN JOSE, Calif., Sept 16 (Reuters) - Intel Corp. (INTC), the world's largest chip maker, on Tuesday outlined plans for two new chips that will have two or more processors on a single piece of silicon, boosting the performance of corporate server computers.
The new chips are a 32-bit Xeon server processor MP, code-named "Tulsa," which will be its first dual-core chip, and a new 64-bit Itanium server chip, code-named "Tanglewood," Intel President Paul Otellini said in his keynote address at the Intel Developer Forum.
Tanglewood will come some time after 2005 and Tulsa in two to three years, he said.
In an interview, Otellini declined to say what plans Intel has for bringing 64-bit chips to PCs. Currently, its chips for PCs crunch 32 bits of data at a time.
"The production operating systems are not there yet" for 64-bit desktop computers, he said. "The mainstream applications won't exist until next year."
Well I must say I'm still in shock about this new CPU.
When I read the headline on Anandtech I thought it was some joke.
I think this a good move for Intel as they are starting to put alittle focus on us hardcore gamers. We might even start to see some Intel boards with overclocking features(you never know) I will defenetley be lined up to buy this sucker ;)
Hmmm, this is an interesting move by Intel, totally unexpected!
I guese they realsed that a 2.2GHz A64 FX would have beaten the P4 3.2GHz quite comprehensively in gaming benchmarks, this move looks like nothing more than a counter of the A64 FX IMO. And a good one at that, though I wouldn't wanna think of the price! With a 3.2C already at $600+, this could easily push the price past $700+! Ouch!
Then again, it is supposed to compete with the high end A64 FX, which sources indicate are gonna cost around $700 anyway, so I guess you can't really blame Intel for charging these prices.