Finally got em :) All I can say is wow when compared to my mh505s, I can only dream of how the ultras sound. These things are as loud at 10% volume as my monsoons were turned all the way up and sound just as clear. The bass is exactly how I wanted it to be and blows away my previous setup. Thanks for the good tip guys :)
edit: Oh and these were the refurbished from klipsch site... NO cosmetical errors, look like a brand new pair of speakers.
