post number 16,920 your a post whoring clown.Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
I think some pirated loser kid needs to wake up and grow-up....
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post number 16,920 your a post whoring clown.Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
I think some pirated loser kid needs to wake up and grow-up....
Piracy is one concept, it may contain multiple concepts under it. Overclocking is one concept, it contains multiple concepts. Nowhere inside the method of overclocking is it said you have to send it in after voiding the warenty and breaking it. Do we agree on that much?Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
No you dont... Pirating is two events... (or more)
1. Finding the software.
2. Downloading / Burning
3. Installing...
You can download it then delete it. Without even installing it. That wouldnt make you a pirate exactly.
You have that choice until the very end when you burn/install that game/app/movie/music/whatever.
You dont have to pirate that game, you dont have to send in that processor with the voided warranty...
Life is full of decisions, the only thing that seperates people people in jail to the ones outside. Is the law and morals.
Lets pose this as a question. At each of these statments ask yourself, is this overclocking
Someone runs thier chip 300mhz over the specification
Someone hits their chip with a mega-volt spike and RMA's it
Someone ruins their chip because they ran it over specificaitons and RMA's it.
There are two answers in there that are definatly not overclocking. Im at a loss as to why we are arguing over the definition of overclocking, if you disgagree with this lets go to the OC forum and ask them "what is the definition of overclocking, and does it include sending broken chips back to company that created it?"
Its like killing someong and deneying it. You can kill someone, and a good deal of people will probably deney it, but the act of killing somone is completly seperate from the act of killing.
P.S., as to the "steps" that piracy includes, take a look at def 3, "unauthorized use"
Main Entry: pi·ra·cy
Pronunciation: 'pI-r&-sE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -cies
Etymology: Medieval Latin piratia, from Late Greek peirateia, from Greek peiratEs pirate
1 : an act of robbery on the high seas; also : an act resembling such robbery
2 : robbery on the high seas
3 : the unauthorized use of another's production, invention, or conception especially in infringement of a copyright
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Originally posted by Un4given
My good man, it is EXACTLY the same thing. You buy and car and soup up the engine to make it faster, you circumvented buying the more expensive V6 or V8 engine offered by that company as an option. There is ZERO difference.
I paid for a processor that is guaranteed by the manufacturer to do 2GHz, but I managed to make it run faster. I'm simply doing something to a part I paid for legally. If I fry the chip from overclocking it, then I should buy a new chip, not RMA the part as a chip running at rated speed that failed. In that sense I am stealing because I am making the manufacturer pay for me not buying the more expensive chip to begin with. By the same token, no one is saying you can't add mods, cheats, or whatever else to the software that purchased, but at least purchase the software.
They are related, however in an apstract manner. It has to due with the base reasoning as to why stealing is wrong. Its not easy or common sense idea to get, and this thread isnt suited to follow this idea very well. Its too easy to forget about that idea, or gloss over it, it would need a new thread to do it justice.Quote:
Originally posted by Matt_E
Exactly. Software piracy and OC'ing are in no way related. I don't understand how anyone could be trying to make that point?
Yes like you had said it is unauthorized used.. So just downloading it and leaving on the pc in that form is not pirating to the definition. You need to complete it by installing it.Quote:
Originally posted by Mancora
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But I am talking about morals. Just the act of downloading something doesnt necessarly mean pirating.
The same for chips and yes in those 3 scenario's ALL THREE are warranty voiders :)
But whatever.
Lol, :)Quote:
*hits fist against head*Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
Yes like you had said it is unauthorized used.. So just downloading it and leaving on the pc in that form is not pirating to the definition. You need to complete it by installing it.
But I am talking about morals. Just the act of downloading something doesnt necessarly mean pirating.
The same for chips and yes in those 3 scenario's ALL THREE are warranty voiders :)
But whatever.
This is like talking to a brick wall, did you even read what i siad? Obvously not because you went on about how warranties are voided and completly ignored the idea that to overclock you dont have to send in your item for an RMA.
There are only two things i can figure here, you are either increadibly dense, or purposly evading the question when you may loose the argument.
Did you even read what I said????
There is still two parts to pirating, just downloading the pirated software doesnt mean you are a pirate. Using it would make you a pirate. But you seem to avoid that too...
Oh well.
edit: NM, i refuse to argue about simple definitions of words.
tell that to the RIAA or whatever their called. All they care about is catching americans downloading/uploading, that is their definition of pirating.Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
Did you even read what I said????
There is still two parts to pirating, just downloading the pirated software doesnt mean you are a pirate. Using it would make you a pirate. But you seem to avoid that too...
Oh well.
...I can't believe this hasn't been locked...
Look, it's really simple. If you want to futz about with the ethics involved, knock yourself out. It's illegal to use software someone made without paying them for it, unless they've explicitly made a free/shareware license available. Oy!
"...but if I had to pay for it, I wouldn't use the program..." OK - good for you. But you're still a pirate.
"...but, but, I'm not taking any money away from then, because if I had to pay for it, I wouldn't be interested..." OK - good for you. But you're still a pirate.
"...but, but, but, they're a huge effing company with bazillions of dollars in the bank, and my not paying them for their crappy $50 software package isn't going to make any material difference to them..." OK - good for you. But you're still a pirate.
Eventually, this all boils down to "buts" and "pirates." Which, I believe, makes you all "but pirates." And/or pillow-biters. Effing tossers.
I'm glad. Taking people seriously is what causes stress and emotional health issues.Quote:
Originally posted by gurutoo
Priceless! I for one, never take Mr Digital too seriously...
-MrD
HAHAHHA.. good lord if I ever thought about quoting someone in my sig, this would be the time.Quote:
Originally posted by Motoman
Eventually, this all boils down to "buts" and "pirates." Which, I believe, makes you all "but pirates." And/or pillow-biters. Effing tossers.
/argument over, Motoman wins.
-MrD
Har Har maties, ://end rant.
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