I agree that the raiders will take CJ and ship moss off for a high round pick or get an established qb. Guess we'll find out in 18 1/2 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spank_Me_Hard
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I agree that the raiders will take CJ and ship moss off for a high round pick or get an established qb. Guess we'll find out in 18 1/2 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spank_Me_Hard
If the Moss trade rumors are true, then I think Davis will pick Calvin Johnson. He doesn't like rebuilding years and he doesn't want to develop a quarterback. I think he goes for a veteran QB, Maybe even getting the old Broncos quarterback out of retirement. I can't wait for tomorrow morning.
I don't know what the Raiders cap situations is, but ideally, if I were making the decision... I'd keep Moss and draft CJ. I would then try to sign a decent QB like Green, Culpepper (if he becomes available), or as you mentioned Plummer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mindwarper
I just think that CJ is far too intriguing of a prospect to pass on.
From what I hear, he is about the closest thing to a guarantee as there is in the NFL... and as I mentioned earlier... drafting a QB usually involves a lot more "missing" than hitting.
Moss has raised a racket in Oakland... but I think that being sucessful, and winning would take care of a lot of that.
And maybe more than anything... they need some decent offensive linemen. The Raiders games that I watched last year were ridiculous... no QB in the world could have even been average behind that sieve of a lone.
Their defense was actually decent.
Moss is gone.
edit: Michael Turner TradedQuote:
Report: Randy Moss Deal Done; Destination Still Unknown (4/27 4:43 PT)
The Facts: There's talk in league circles that the Raiders have a deal in place to trade Moss. However, we don't know yet where he's headed. Or what the Raiders will get in return. Reported by Profootballtalk.com
chargers are gonna burn someone....AJ Smith seems to always make out like a bandit, watch them fanangle a deal and end up with Calvin Johnson and Gaines Adams or some crazy crapQuote:
Report: Chargers Closing In On Michael Turner Trade (4/27 1:37 PT)
The Facts: The Chargers are prepared to Turner in the near future after receiving an acceptable contract offer from another team, ESPN reported on Friday. According to the report, an unidentified team has offered the Chargers a first-round pick in the 2008 draft, and San Diego is willing to accept the deal. Reported by the Nashville Tennessean
since that report is out of nashville it's gonna be for the Titans first rounder, which is #19...now, the cardinals want to move down... they might trade picks with san diego and san diego might end up screwing them too in a deal.
Man... more than the actual talent on the team one cannot stress the often overlooked importance of a good owner and a good GM.
My personal favorite GM was Jimmy Johnson... that guy could find Pro Bowl calibre talent at any pick of the draft... and did!
Dang.Quote:
Johnson is perhaps the top player in the draft, being 6-foot-5, 239 pounds and able to run a 4.35 40.
That is just STUPID!
A big play player in college. Big enough to win jump balls, fights for the ball, and to break tackles. Fast enough to outrun defenders.
That's just ridiculous.
I wonder even if he could play TE?
What a nightmare that would be for opposing safeties and linebackers!
Yep, guys with numbers like that are a matchup problem waiting to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spank_Me_Hard
If that guy could play TE... how do you defend him as a defensive coordinator?Quote:
Originally Posted by r'aggro
A linebacker can't run with him.
A corner can't tackle him (and do you want a corner lining up across from him anyways on running plays?)
And a safety generally has a little problem doing both.
Jam him with the linebacker and then have the safety try to run with him?
It's a 2008 pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by vairox
Could also try pressuring the QB. CJ can't catch it if it's rushed and off target.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spank_Me_Hard
At any rate, he's like Moss when he came out except bigger. How did anyone defend Moss early on? The answer: they couldn't.
yeah 08' derrrr..... well, who knows who will be the best player then and who they may need
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More On Randy Moss; Packers, Pats Interested (4/27 7:12 PT)
The Facts: Following up on a previous item. ... The Green Bay Packers and New England Patriots are believed to have talked with the Raiders regarding a trade for Moss, but neither team was willing to give up the asking price -- believed to be something as high as a second-round draft pick in today's draft. "Nothing's been finalized," one team source said Friday. Reported by the San Francisco Chronicle
Analysis: According to Chronicle staffer David White, Raiders HC Lane Kiffin spent part of Friday trying to attract a first-day draft pick in exchange for Moss, who has not backed down from trade demands that began midway through last season. And while they haven't had any luck yet, we'll remind you that NFL Network insider Adam Schefter believes a deal could be consummated this weekend -- assuming owner Al Davis signs off on the deal and the team trading for Moss can restructure his contract. Moss has two years and $20 million remaining on his current deal. ... Stay tuned
didn't even know Darrell Jackson was on the block....must means they are finally ready to recognize that Branch is on their roster, unlike last year.
also, Titans are working on getting Mike WilliamsQuote:
Report: 49ers Closing In On Deal For Darrell Jackson (4/27 8:39 PT)
The Facts: According to a league sources, San Francisco and Seattle are working toward a trade that would send Jackson to the Niners in exchange for one of a fourth-round pick, believed to be the Niners' third selection in the round, No. 124 overall. The Saints and Titans are also believed to be talking with Seattle about Jackson. Reported by ESPN.com
Analysis: According to ESPN.com's Michael Smith, the deal is contingent upon Jackson passing his physical, scheduled for Saturday at the Niners' practice facility. Jackson missed 10 regular-season games in 2005 after undergoing surgery to repair torn cartilage in his right knee, underwent a second operation on the knee following Seattle's loss in Super Bowl XL and missed the final three regular-season games last season with a turf toe. But in 96 games, including 89 starts, Jackson has 441 receptions for 6,445 yards (14.6-yard average) and 47 touchdowns. ... Stay tuned.
if they are getting rid of williams it means one thing... with the second pick of the 2007 NFL draft, the Detroit Lions choose - out of Georgia Tech, Calvin JohnsonQuote:
Titans Working To Land RB Turner, WR Williams (4/27 8:51 PT)
The Facts: On the eve of the NFL Draft, the Titans are working to acquire Chargers RB Michael Turner and Lions WR Mike Williams. As previously noted, ESPN reported the Chargers are prepared to trade Turner after receiving an acceptable contract offer from another team. The Titans, Bills and Packers are among the teams who've expressed an interest in Turner. Reported by the Nashville Tennessean
Analysis: According to ESPN's report, an unidentified team offered the Chargers a first-round pick in the 2008 draft and San Diego is willing to accept the deal. Tennessean staffer Jim Wyatt, citing sources familiar with the talks, reports the Titans did not offer a first-round pick in next year's draft, but have discussed other options including a swap of first round picks in this year’s draft. The Titans are scheduled to pick 19th overall, the Chargers 30th. ... As for Williams, the Titans and Lions have discussed trade options. ... More as developments warrant.
Jeez I just can't help but think that it's a real mistake to deal D-Jack to a division rival. For a fourth? I like having a deep wr group, I don't know why Seattle feels they need to trade him.:confused: Unless this means they are positive that DJ Hackett is the new flanker and will start.
But not to the niners for crissake.:mad:
I really had no clue Darrell Jackson was on the block...completely off guard.
it definitely looks like they are ready to go with Branch as the #1.
personally I would have went with jackson & branch but maybe one can't deal with being seen as a #2
Why does it seem that WRs are always the biggest babies?
I swear... there is more head cases at WR than any other position...
cause WR is the diva position...they get all the attention, no ball = no attention
Marvin Harrison is the 2nd best WR of all time just because of his work ethic and distain for attention, he goes out and plays hard every week...for a guy barely 6'0 and 175lbs he goes across the middle and makes plays then hustles back to the huddle....week in and week out...he is always the first WR i take in FF if hes there
Okay it doesn't make any sense to make that trade. Seattle has him in the middle of a long term contract, and could afford to resign him anyway.
Either Ruskel doesn't like him, or maybe he's butt-hurt over Branch, or the knee injury is raising concerns. But there has to be more to this. For one thing, he is the #1, not Branch.
That fact that he is being traded isn't a surprise though, and Hawks posters have been surmising that it will be to SF for weeks. Part of the picture might be Justin Smiley coming back our way, which makes the whole thing more digestible for me. Jackson is certainly worth more than a late fourth.