That's true, I was thinking of Brown as an OLB in a 4-3 setup. Once he lost a few steps, he just couldn't hack it anymore.
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That's true, I was thinking of Brown as an OLB in a 4-3 setup. Once he lost a few steps, he just couldn't hack it anymore.
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Originally Posted by monroeski
true, but in the NFL nearly every player makes a decent salary... and they are the ones getting involved in strip club drama (pacman), fights (joey porter), speeding and fighting cops (antonio bryant), boat orgies (vikings) and whatever else... let's look at some mediocre players.
Willie Whitehead - DT, NO Saints. He will rotate with 2 other players
Salary - 2007: $1.1 million
Age: 34
Junior Glymph - DL, Cowboys. Could play nickle rusher behind Greg Ellis
2007: $510,000
Age: 26
Bobby Hamilton - DE, NY Jets. released then re-signed wnd stringer
3/6/2007: Signed a one-year contract. 2007: $850,000
Age: 35
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What is the average salary of an NFL football player?
The average NFL salary in 2006 was $1.4 million. The Falcons had the highest payroll at $110 million, the Bills the lowest at $60 million.
pretty good payday... let's say they work 16 hours a day 5 days a week, so 80 hours a week...twice as many hours as the average joe, game film, working out, practice, meetings, media etc.
80 hours X 52 weeks = 4160 hours a year
1.4 million / 4160 = $336/hr
even at $510k it's $122/hr.... would you cry if you got paid $122/hr to work out, run, watch film, do media appearances, practice and obey some rules? I'm not sure I can really name anyone who would except the uber rich and if you are uber rich chances are you are NOT frequenting sharkyforums
Yea... some guys when they lose their one critical edge are just plain done.Quote:
Originally Posted by r'aggro
Other guys though, you can re-invent in a slightly different role.
I wonder if Brown could have still been good at MLB?
Or even a situational player... I remember Matt Millen (which shows my age) with the Redskins where he would only come in on obvious running downs... on passing downs he was a liability.
Other than that, I have seen careers extended with offensive tackles being moved to offensive guard (Kevin Gogan - Dallas Cowboys).
Most of the time though, a player is just done.
Correction - they are the ones that get in the news when they are involved in that stuff. No one would care if the QB of the Tri-Cities Fever (AF2 team) got in a fight at a strip club. I saw a stat in some article a year or two back that the percentage of NFL players that have been arrested is actually lower than the percentage of the population at large, though I can't find the source to back me up.Quote:
Originally Posted by vairox
I'm not really sure what you're getting at anyway, since I never argued that NFL players aren't well paid, I'm just saying that playing a sport professionally isn't all daisies and grab *** like many people seem to think it is. It is hard, hard work. Also, the guys making high salaries in the NFL and NBA and such are basically the equivalent of the upper management/CEO level; players in the NFL are at the very, very top of a pretty massive population. It would be like saying college dropouts really have it made easy and using Michael Dell as your example.
When you actually get out there and try an athlete's lifestyle, you come to realize how hard it really is and how devoted you really have to be to your sport to be able to cut it. Tons of people want to be pro athletes, but then they can't be bothered to hit a treadmill twice a freaking week. Fact is, if the majority of the guys in the NFL weren't in the NFL, they would still be playing football in some podunk league somewhere playing for crowds of under 1,000 or they would be coaching because football is what they want to do with their life.
They're still getting paid to play a game.
The fact that less of them get arrested than the normal population, if true, is still ****. They are supposed to be role-models and heroes.
First of all, my entire point is that they're not getting paid to play a game, they're getting paid to work, and anyone with any experience in high level athletics knows the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by rabidmoose171
Also, being a role model and a hero sounds a little different to me than just "getting paid to play a game." Just playing a game is what I do when I fire up my computer.
Again, I'm not trying to say they have the roughest lives in the world. I'm just saying that it's not as easy as everyone thinks it is, and it's not "just getting paid to play a game."
just ask brett farve how bad it is,he had to take painkillers constantly.Its hard in the nfl but you make it somehow I guess.It is nowhere near easy in the nfl.
They also are paid well base on the fact that only a small percentage of the population is able to do their "job" at the level they do. There are not a ton of 200lb guys around that can run a 4.4 40 and have a 38" vertical, etc. And thats just the measurable abilities, not the other stuff that sets them apart.
Whats wrong with going to a strip club now?
when the incident that got you banned for a year happened in a strip club, you would think that not going to a strip club right before your appeal would be a good idea.
sure they work hard, most people who make big $ work hard...unless you are CEO of exxon, you are gonna be busting *** to stay where you are at...point is, they still play a GAME and get paid for it... of course you have to work out, if you didn't then you woul't be able to compete on the same level and you woul be OUT OF A JOB.
It's not just playing a game anymore, it's a job. Saying playing in the NFL is playing a game is like saying that doodling on your notes in class is the same as being a professional animator because all you're doing is getting paid to draw. I guess technically it's the same, but the connotation with saying "they get paid to play a game" is so far off it's unbelievable. The "game" they play is so much harder on them than probably anybody around here's job it's practically incomparable. They don't have sick days. Many players are out there with broken bones or severe sprains, and they just have to take painkillers or risk losing their job. Late in the season, most guys can't even walk normally the day after a game. You can lose your job if you lose too much weight or gain too much weight in the offseason, so even when you DON'T have games you can't afford to slack off. You can wake up one day and have to move across the country tomorrow because you've been traded. The only "game playing" part comes for about 3 hours once a week for only half the year, and if you screw up during that happy fun time you'll get yelled at unmercifully right afterwards, hear about it for weeks in practice and in the media, and possibly get benched.
Doesn't sound like "just a game" to me, but I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
it's a job, of course it is... but working out to stay in shape to keep one's job is no different than many other jobs.
as a licensed therapist you have to have continuing education in order to stay licensed, take classes your entire career to keep your job....many careers are like this, some you have to bust *** physically (sports) and some mentally... no one is saying what they do is easy, if it was you and me would supplant manning/harrison on the qb to wr TD list...yes they have to stay within strict parameters regarding weight and body fat % etc, but most of these guys are physically gifted metabolically that it isn't that difficult to accomplish...OL/DL forget about it.
there are guys that can go into a gym and just pack on muscle like it's nothing, no special diets, nothing... then there are guys that can work out all day every day for years and not make significant gains - the skinny nerdy types, NFL guys have a leg up genetically speaking.
So you're saying that they're doing the same thing that many people do at their jobs, only at a very high level. How is that just getting paid to play a game, then? Because they're out running instead of pushing paper?Quote:
Originally Posted by vairox
Would a construction job be just getting paid to play a game because I enjoyed playing with Legos growing up, or because I like to do work on my house in my free time?
Maybe that's it; people say it's just a game because they're jealous that football players, or all pro athletes, have a job that they enjoy rather than staying in a position they hate like most people seem to. You could say that about any profession, though. It is not an exaggeration to say that people at high levels of corporations, like CFOs, legitimately enjoy scanning over spreadsheets line by line, or to say that financial analysts get off on comparing the income statements and balance sheets of bunch of different companies. Going over financial records isn't something we traditionally associate with being fun, but truth be told this is something these people would be doing even if it wasn't their job.
Everything works both ways; pro athletes (and I don't just mean high level, here I'm talking about all levels down to the minor leagues and such) often look at their friends and wish they had a job where they could just sit at a desk all day and get paid for it and not have to work their bodies to death and be on the road a quarter of the year.
it was an an exaggeration, as I stated many posts ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by monroeski
not jealous, remember it's SUPER DUPER EXTREMELY MEGA ULTRA NINJA SUPLEX ON YOUR HEAD SNAP YOUR NECK BACK EXCRUCIATINGLY HARD work, can't be jealous of that.Quote:
Maybe that's it; people say it's just a game because they're jealous that football players, or all pro athletes, have a job that they enjoy rather than staying in a position they hate like most people seem to.
but everyone is jealous.... :DQuote:
Everything works both ways; pro athletes (and I don't just mean high level, here I'm talking about all levels down to the minor leagues and such) often look at their friends and wish they had a job where they could just sit at a desk all day and get paid for it and not have to work their bodies to death and be on the road a quarter of the year.