As it also occupies most of the hockey posts disscussing the merits of hockey in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by r'aggro
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As it also occupies most of the hockey posts disscussing the merits of hockey in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by r'aggro
Hey I don'ty mean to go against you , but some hockey games don't even have fights. I'm not a fan, but I enjoy playoff hockey, pretty much when the islanders or rangers are involved. Playoff hockey is great to watch, but I find it hard to believe anyone watches it for the fights. You can catch them on espn. Just because the fights bring more attention doesn't mean the real fans don't enjoy the game. Look at how much attention the fights in baseball and basketball get. I really doubt the occasional fight is somehow keeping hocket alive.Quote:
Originally Posted by md1198p
The other sports fights get attention because of how rare they are, its a once in a while thing. I also am not saying thats there are no true hockey fans that love the game itself, but the majority of the people i know who are fans talk more about who fought who than the actual games. As a matter of fact, out of all the sports fans i know, the hockey fans seem to watch less games than any other. And forget about actually going to a game. I live in NJ and the Devils can't even sell out playoff games. That is very sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by PriMaTe
Ok, enough ruining the NFL thread with OT, any other posts I make on this will be in the NHL thread, if any.
You're right, hockey is pretty much dead. I don't know any true full on fans so I cannot comment about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by md1198p
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Originally Posted by md1198p
That's because the matter of "which sport is tougher" was being discussed, and the possibility of having your head beaten in solidifies hockey's hold on that distinction.
I am a true hockey fan, and to me the fighting is necessary and enjoyable, but it's hardly the main reason to watch the sport.
Here, here!Quote:
Originally Posted by r'aggro
Well, I was just joking in my post. Didn't mean to kick off a flame war. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by md1198p
Clinton Portis says it's ok to force animals to fight...
ok?!?Quote:
In an interview with WAVY-TV, Portis said that if the Atlanta Falcons quarterback is charged and convicted of being involved in a dog fighting operation, then authorities would be "putting him behind bars for no reason."
"I don't know if he was fighting dogs or not," Portis said. "But it's his property; it's his dogs. If that's what he wants to do, do it."
Portis said dog fighting is a "prevalent" part of life.
Yea... I saw that.
I understand the "brotherhood" that exists in the NFL... but come on!
An incredibly stupid statement on Portis's part.
If you don't want to badmouth another player, at least keep your mouth shut!
I like the 'Skins, but I just lost a lot of respect for Portis.
Yea I read that today too. Stupid. I'm not a big tree hugger or anything, but as a dog owner I find it pretty disgusting. Though I have to admit, before getting my dog I wouldn't have liked it, but I wouldn't have as strong of a reaction as I do now.
I don't get the Vicks or the Pacmans. I mean not only are you rich beyond reason, but you are also hugely famous, young, and in peak phsyical condition. How does it enter your head to even remotely jeopordize any of that. I guess I'll never know, heh.
I bought a few off of ebay. I just got nfl networks and hope to watch some good old Raider games. I think that Bo had a short career and that's why many people don't remember him. Many older names are forgotten. I would love to see the nfl network have specials on players and eras.
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Originally Posted by Spank_Me_Hard
Same here. I remember him back in the day, but I didn't know his stats like 40 yard dash times etc. I saw that same thing on NFL Network, and when they said 4.1 40 I was like :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: I tried to explain to my wife what that meant, but it was lost on her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spank_Me_Hard
We absolutely drool over a guy who runs 4.3, just like my new man Calvin Johnson, but 4.1? What the crap??
Careful... it's from Fox!
:)
I agree.Quote:
Portis' bark deserves a bite in the bum
Portis defends Vick
Michael Vick hosting dog fights at his home doesn't bother Clinton Portis, who says, "if that's what he wants to do, then do it."
Vick still loved?
If somebody is too stupid to understand the fundamental immorality of dog fighting, you're never going to be able to explain it to him.
So don't waste your breath on Clinton Portis.
You could show him scripture, wherein man's dominion over animals comes with an insistence on "holiness and justice."
You could photocopy Gandhi's essay on animal rights for him.
Heck, you could even give him a copy of Ralph Ellison's Invisible Man in the hopes that he might see a parallel in the inhumanity between Ellison's battle royal — a brutal free-for-all fought by black men for the entertainment of whites — and a bunch of men standing around and cheering as two dogs tear each other apart.
But none of it would take. So this isn't a column with an educational purpose. This is a more retributive exercise with the aim of adding just a sliver of anguish and misery to the otherwise great life of multi-millionaire jackass Clinton Portis, written on behalf of my dog Sam.
In what could have been a completely inconsequential off-season interview, the idiot Portis, for no apparent reason, decided to weigh in on behalf of Michael Vick and in favor of dog fighting.
When I saw the headline I thought it must have been one ill-conceived comment — perhaps blown out of proportion or taken the wrong way — but, oh no, Portis went out of his way to reiterate again and again in different ways that he has no problems with dog owners fighting their dogs.
If you thought Ted Koppel tried to throw Al Campanis a lifeline, check out how many times the interviewer gives Portis opportunities to backtrack.
On the topic of Vick facing possible charges for dog fighting, Portis opened with, "I think people should mind their business, you know. I don't know if he was fighting dogs or not, but it's his property, his dog, if that's what he wants to do, do it."
When apprised by the startled interviewer that dog fighting is a felony, Portis was fairly incredulous. It seems to be the first he's heard of that development within our justice system. But he's ready with a rebuttal.
"It can't be too bad of a crime. There's a lot of stuff that's crimes, you know. It's killers on the loose over here and you want to hunt down Michael Vick over fighting some dogs."
Well said, Clint. Well said. But he was just getting started.
"I think behind closed doors the same people who do all the judging are probably some of the harshest people around. They're Internet predators and everything else."
Smart. Use the Karl Rove strategy, go on the attack. The people — law enforcement officers, district attorneys, judges — condemning others for dog fighting are Internet predators. Nice.
Come to think of it, we've got to get Chris Hansen and his crew to surprise the gang at one of these dog fights. Those would be some choice interviews. Smart crowd, the dog fighting fan base.
Apparently Portis was no stranger to these Mensa meetings when he was growing up.
"I'm from Laurel, Mississippi, so I know a lot of backroads that got a dog fight if you want to go see it." Perhaps the FBI can take up Clinton on this offer.
After suggesting that he suspected cops and judges were staging dogfights too, Portis was asked what he would think if Vick is charged and convicted.
Still unclear on the illegal nature of the activity, Portis asks, "How could you convict somebody on a dog fight?"
Okay, knucklehead, hypothetically, what if Vick were convicted?
"Then I think he got cheated. You take a positive role model...and put him behind bars for no reason, over a dog fight."
Positive role model? Wow, this interview just gets nuttier and nuttier. Was it his airport antics, flipping off the fans, or throwing coaches under the bus that made Vick a positive role model? I forget.
Portis seems genuinely confused at why we can't do whatever we want to our animals in the privacy of our massive compounds. He seems to be asking, if you own the animals and you keep it on your property, who's to say you can't torture them? Civil society, Clinton, that's who.
A few hours after yucking it up for the camera and leaving no doubt that he absolutely positively condones dog fighting, Portis issued a statement through the Redskins (the only team nickname almost as offensive as dog fighting):
"In the recent interview I gave concerning dog fighting, I want to make it clear I do not take part in dog fighting or condone dog fighting in any manner," the statement said.
Except, of course, at Michael Vick's house and on the back roads of Mississippi. No, Clinton, that weak, after-the-fact, half-hearted retraction won't convince anybody that you didn't mean what you said. Over and over. Cutting a big check to the ASPCA probably won't convince anyone either, but at least it would do some good.
Daniel Snyder might even go halves with you. (He only believes in cruel and unusual punishment for coaches waiting to be fired.)
The sad part is I had always liked Clinton Portis. I thought the costumes were great and his sound bites consistently funny. But he's lost me now.
When I think about pro athletes siccing dogs on one another it makes me consider rooting for catastrophic knee injuries.
But I guess I'm not that cruel. If, however, Portis missed another batch of games in '07 with his chronic shoulder problems, well, maybe it would be karma.
Anyone who flippantly condones animal cruelty deserves no better.
Portis has to be an absolute moron.
I knew that Bo was fast... like 4.3 40. But I had no idea that he had run 4.1 times. That's just obsurd.Quote:
Originally Posted by spamjedi
That is getting close to world class sprinter speed.
There are exceedingly few who have this type speed... and even fewer that can translate it into football use.
Bo Jackson and Deon Sanders are the only two in recent memory that come to mind.
Enough. Calling hockey an inferior sport, im pretty sure that we are all entitled to our opinions so I will respect the fact that you dont like hockey. But cmon dont ruin it for the rest of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by md1198p
The reason hockey fights are so much more intense and exciting is because they are not "staged" to fight. In a boxing/UFC (which i dont like watching) match, they are set up to fight and you expect it. The whole reason i like hockey fights so much is because you never know when they will break out making it that much more fun to watch.