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Originally Posted by Harbinger

Favre 300 yard passing games and the rank of the passing defenses he faced in those games:
SD (#23) 369 yards
Min (#32) 344 yards
Chi (#25) 322 yards
Den (#10) 331 yards
KC (#9) 360 yards
Min (#32) 351 yards
Det (#31) 381 yards

Looks like he's only put up 300 yards on two good passing defenses, KC & Denver. Of course he also threw 2 picks in that Denver game.

I'm not saying Favre is washed up. He is a good quarterback who has played a lot of bad teams and defenses and his numbers are deceiving. If he puts up big numbers against the Raiders (#4 passing def) and the Rams (#12) then I will quit my argument. Until then, label me "unconvinced." Seriously, what's the best team he's beat so far? The 7-4 Giants? The 6-5 Chargers? Sorry, I'm not impressed.

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So lighting up poor defenses(which is what you're supposed to do), and a couple good ones, 4 times on the road doesn't convince you? Have you looked at the AFC east lately? Romo has 3 games under 200 yards, Favre has 1. Romo hasn't faced any better competition save the Pats game, so then I guess we have no reason to think he'll keep it up this year.

Sharky Pick 'em For Week 13

Dallas
St. Louis
Washington
Minnesota
Tennessee
Indianapolis
NY Jets (Oh how that one pains me!)
San Diego
Philadelphia
Carolina
New Orleans
Arizona
Oakland
Chicago
Pittsburgh
Baltimore

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Originally Posted by [PinPals]Apu

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Dallas
St. Louis
Washington
Detroit
Tennessee
Indianapolis
NY Jets
San Diego
Seattle
San Francisco
Tampa Bay
Cleveland
Oakland
Chicago
Cincinnati

Baltimore

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Originally Posted by [PinPals]Apu

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thanks for taking over. I appreciate it.

Green Bay
Atlanta
Washington
Detroit
Houston
Jacksonville
NY Jets
San Diego
Seattle
Carolina
Tampa Bay
Cleveland
Denver
Chicago
Cincinnati
Baltimore

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Originally Posted by DJBeanPole17

Romo has Jessica Simpson.

Favre has Prilosec and Wrangler jeans.

Romo wins.

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Favre has a Super Bowl ring, a guaranteed HOF ring, and he's Brett Freaking Favre. If he felt like cheating on his wife, he could just flash those bad boys and pick up any hos he wants. :D

Sharky Pick 'em For Week 13



Dallas
St. Louis
Washington
Detroit
Tennessee
Indianapolis
NY Jets
Kansas City
Philadelphia
Carolina
Tampa Bay
Cleveland
Denver
Chicago
Pittsburgh
Baltimore

Favre for the win. Bam!

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Originally Posted by steppy76

So lighting up poor defenses(which is what you're supposed to do), and a couple good ones, 4 times on the road doesn't convince you? Have you looked at the AFC east lately? Romo has 3 games under 200 yards, Favre has 1. Romo hasn't faced any better competition save the Pats game, so then I guess we have no reason to think he'll keep it up this year.

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I wasn't using the stats to compare him to Romo, everyone keeps misinterpretting my argument.

Yes, he lit up bad defenses and that's what he's supposed to do. On the other hand, it doesn't impress me. Only a couple of those wins are somewhat impressive because he's faced so many bad teams. Same for Romo. If Favre lights up Dallas and wins that game handily then I'll be impressed. Until then, unimpressed and unconvinced of Favre resurgence.

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Originally Posted by Harbinger

Well I was pointing out the 300 yard games since someone else mentioned those and I list passing defense because that would be the most relevant when evaluating how a QB performed against that defense. Not meant to be comprehensive, just a quick analysis.

Look, my argument was not comparing Favre to Romo. I was also not comparing the Cowboys and Packers. Or using the Giants at all. I am simply saying that I am not that impressed by what Favre has done and I think it is more a factor of playing a lot of mediocre teams/defenses than returning to "elite" quarterback status.

Though now that we are on it...
I am not blown away by Romo either. I think the Cowboys' offense has an edge on the Packers' offense because they have had success running the ball all season as opposed to the Packers, who have only had recent success with the run. The teams are extremely close though, because the Packer's D is phenomenal.

As for the Giants... I don't think they'll never win a championship with Eli (Fredo) Manning. I think Manning lacks the confidence and presence to lead a team and makes too many bad decisions. I think the rest of their schedule will expose the team's flaws.

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At no point did I say you were comparing him to Romo, or comparing the Cowboys and the Packers, or talking about the Giants. I, however, was doing all those things. ;)

Just like with the 300 yard game comparisons, I was just saying that I don't think that the quick analysis really says all that much. I wanted to throw somebody else in there, and Romo was the obvious choice since they're playing this week, they're on the two best NFC teams, and people have been comparing Romo to Favre since he first took over for Bledsoe. The Giants thing only came up after I looked at Dallas and GB's schedules and realized the Cowboys played and beat NY twice.

Sharky Pick 'em For Week 13
Dallas
St. Louis
Buffalo
Minnesota
Tennessee
Jacksonville
Miami
Kansas City
Philadelphia
San Francisco
New Orleans
Cleveland
Oakland
NY Giants
Pittsburgh
Baltimore

I'm cheering for Green Bay, but I just don't think they make it happen this week. Injuries + playing at Dallas doesn't add up well for them imo.

Also, No matter what the Pats have been doing all year, I just can't bring myself to bet on an NFL team winning by more than 20.

Sean Taylor, definitely too coincidental... like spank_me said, repeated attempt....he wasn't home the first time so the person left a knife on his bed, a calling card, to say "I'll be back, you will die"....they come back and cut the phone lines, then kick in the door and shoot him dead...this was not random, he was targetted, by who....who knows if we will ever find out.

sure you could say it was a random burglary, cut the phone lines so the alarm system wouldnt go off...but alarm systems go off if the lines are cut, so that doesnt make sense, this was deliberate....if it was a random burglary they would have gone in and took whatever they wanted while everyone slept...no, this person went to HIS bedroom and shot HIM... I don't want to assume anything, but we may find out in the coming weeks that this guy was running with the wrong folks and he got the horn, drugs, gangs, something.

to kick in his door means they came for him, no burglar kicks in a door...if it's locked that means someone is in there, if you proceed then you are going in for more than taking stuff... but they kicked it in! probably to surprise him "BAM" he jumps up out of bed in surprise - POP, POP, POP shots to his torso....they probably didn't expect him to already be up and waiting.


SHARKY PICK 'EM WEEK 13

DALLAS (love favre, but this is in dallas)
ST. LOUIS
WASHINGTON
DETROIT
TENNESSEE
INDIANAPOLIS
NY JETS
SAN DIEGO
SEATTLE
CAROLINA
NEW ORLEANS
ARIZONA
DENVER
NY GIANTS
PITTSBURGH
NEW CHEATLAND

no NFL network here, comcast wants to charge for it... I will probably "get" it somewhere else if it pops up, sure it's a big game and all but oh well... I know if I tried to order it today they would do me like people returning TV's to circuit city after the superbowl if I tried to cancel on friday....

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Originally Posted by vairox

no NFL network here, comcast wants to charge for it... I will probably "get" it somewhere else if it pops up, sure it's a big game and all but oh well... I know if I tried to order it today they would do me like people returning TV's to circuit city after the superbowl if I tried to cancel on friday....

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Yeah NFL network sucks if you dont have it. We have it on our cable package plus its being broadcast on local TV so ill be watching GB stick it to Dallas :D

Just go to a nice sports bar and watch it. Order up some wings and a brew and hit on the nearest female.

[QUOTE='[PinPals]Apu']Sharky Pick 'em For Week 13

Favorite _________________ Spread _________________ Underdog
Green Bay
St. Louis
Buffalo
Detroit
Houston
Jacksonville
NY Jets Uber boring game?
San Diego
Philadelphia
Carolina
New Orleans
Cleveland
Oakland (gotta pick em, but its an emotional pick) Ya gotta have hope.
Chicago
Pittsburgh

Baltimore please beat the spread and put some hurt on the Pats


I get the nfl channel, so I have some friends coming over tonight. Should be a great game.

NFL Network! Holllaaaaah!

Not making picks this week just becaues I don't give a rats ***. I know I want Indy to win this game coming up on Sunday. HUGE game for both teams.

I'll go with Dallas for a win, not for the spread. Such a toss up, but since its at Dallas that may help things along.

*very excited*

I took Oakland because they just did beat KC.

AND, Oakland *should* have beat Denver in Denver in their 1st meeting. And this time, it's in Oakland.

I have taken Oakland in the past just off who I want to win. But I actually think that they'll win this one... or at least meet the spread.

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Originally Posted by [PinPals]Apu

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Green Bay
Atlanta
Buffalo
Minnesota
Houston
Jacksonville
NY Jets
San Diego
Seattle
Carolina
Tampa Bay
Cleveland
Denver
NY Giants
Cincinnati

Monday Night Football
Baltimore

Who the hell are these players in the white jerseys? They sure as hell aint the 10-1 Packers of 2007. These are the 4-12 from a few years ago.

Their pass defense is gone, they arent stopping the run when it matters. Theyre leaving every receiver not named Owens open by a mile, and letting Owens make important catches regardless. Also didnt like the old Favre in the first half throwing shitty passes left and right.

It looks like the Packers changed their entire gameplan to play Dallas instead of playing the good football theyve been doing all year. "Oh no its the 10-1 Cowboys, lets change our entire playstyle to beat them!"

While this will prolly be the only game the Pack will lose heading into the playoffs, they better pray to God all their starters will be healthy if/when they meet Dallas for the NFC championship. Hopefully GB will learn from tonites game for next time.

Only bright spot is Rodgers stepping in for Favre. Least hes proving a capable backup.

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Originally Posted by [PinPals]Apu

Who the hell are these players in the white jerseys? They sure as hell aint the 10-1 Packers of 2007. These are the 4-12 from a few years ago.

Their pass defense is gone, they arent stopping the run when it matters. Theyre leaving every receiver not named Owens open by a mile, and letting Owens make important catches regardless. Also didnt like the old Favre in the first half throwing shitty passes left and right.

It looks like the Packers changed their entire gameplan to play Dallas instead of playing the good football theyve been doing all year. "Oh no its the 10-1 Cowboys, lets change our entire playstyle to beat them!"

While this will prolly be the only game the Pack will lose heading into the playoffs, they better pray to God all their starters will be healthy if/when they meet Dallas for the NFC championship. Hopefully GB will learn from tonites game for next time.

Only bright spot is Rodgers stepping in for Favre. Least hes proving a capable backup.

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Charles Woodson being out really hurt. Too many injuries. Bad gameplanning on offense, and Dallas took advantage of all of it and executed well.

Al Harris was getting dominated by TO.

Looking forward to the weekend, should be some good football!

all I can say is it will be dallas/NE superbowl... Moss v.s T.O...who wants the ring more? both are old and both have been pretty good throughout their careers, except moss who plays only when he gets TD's. I think T.O has more heart, is more physical and wants it more....Moss relies on his speed and height, he doesn't even run routes anymore.... it's 3 flies up with him, run and jump, I think it MAY be possible for dallas to beat NE but it's pretty unlikely. NE over Dallas 31-24

the rest of this season is just delaying the inevitable.

I have a feeling that NE is gonna lose their first playoff game, I dunno why but I just have a hunch. I still say Indy is the champs till someone beats them, Indy is still my favorite.

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Originally Posted by fastitocalon

I have a feeling that NE is gonna lose their first playoff game, I dunno why but I just have a hunch. I still say Indy is the champs till someone beats them, Indy is still my favorite.

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You know... part of me wonders about that too...

I have seen over the years where a team that is considered "unbeatable" loses shockingly in the playoffs.

It's why they actually play out the games.

Did anyone read the article about the second half of the season from ESPN? They had NO as the #2 in the NFC finishing out the final 8 games like 7-1 or something stupid? Thats why we play the games. Thats why this is the greatest game around.

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Originally Posted by [PinPals]Apu

Sharky Pick 'em For Week 13

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Green Bay
St. Louis
Washington
Detroit
Tennessee
Indianapolis
NY Jets
San Diego
Philadelphia
Carolina
New Orleans
Cleveland
Denver
NY Giants
Pittsburgh
New England

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Originally Posted by MrDigital

Green Bay

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At least we know you're honest ;)