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From FAH: "For other molecular dynamics simulation packages, interactions between atoms are described by an empirical potential energy (“force field approach”), which is an analytical function of atomic coordinates. In QMD core, there is no force field – atomic interaction is calculated using quantum chemical method or by solving Schrödinger equation. . . . When carefully conducted, quantum chemical calculation gives a very reliable potential energy surface. Also, it can naturally incorporate multi-body interactions. In force field approach, such interactions are usually accounted through polarizability."

For folders it means huge WUs that require lots of memory and can only run on Intel CPU because it requires Intel's version of SSE2, or some such explanation.

I calculate that my P4 3.2s that were doing a little over 200 ppd will now be doing around 300 ppd.

so in other words i don't have to worry about it, since i'm 100% AMD

is there anything that i should be doing to maximize my production from all systems though? i've just recently switched to the 5.02 console (haven't gone to the 5.04 beta yet), and just went through the basic walkthrough on the setup, didn't use any flags, etc (aside from setting machine ID). any other flags i should use? is the -advmethods flag still legitimate?

Right, for now don't run QMD (big WUs) on AMD -- the 96 core runs MUCH slower than other units for you.

-advmethods still gets you the newer units.

edit . . . just got another rig folding -- an X2 4200+, so with that addition and the new QMD units on my Intels maybe I can get close to red again. The heat is off in the house and it is around 65, except my office, which is 75 from the folders. :D

Back in.

I'd left F@H to work another project, but the project ended. Damn, down to 12th on the team now, gotta get cranking. It won't be until Tuesday before I can get all machines I have at my disposal setup, but most will be online this weekend.

So, to save myself some reading, with 5.03 GUI or 5.04 console, what are the flags to set now on both AMD and Intel?

You only need to set the local flag on multicore or HT machines now.

During config you can select advmethods and big units (units over 5mb). Only select both of those options on Intel procs.

The rest has not changed, and a summary of the options is here.

Thanks RB. :) Got a few machines online now, still got one more here I can do before I get into the office for the last one Tuesday.

Great!

Two days in the red now, if I can just keep all my folders running stable. The QMD (big units) really helped my daily production -- thanks marv!

Yeah I noticed that for a while now. Congrats on the reds.

Its like there is some sort of email notification for conquests. I just noticed a few ghost accounts suddenly turn on like zombies when you pass over them, rev up a few work units and then die off again. lol. Kind of amusing.

broke 100k the other day.

Daily production has dropped signifigantly recently though.

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broke 100k the other day.

Daily production has dropped signifigantly recently though.

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Nice job

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.c...php?s=&t=34149

lol.

edit: n/m its gone now.

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Originally Posted by RealBeast

For folders it means huge WUs that require lots of memory and can only run on Intel CPU because it requires Intel's version of SSE2, or some such explanation.

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I have been thinking about this for a bit and was wondering if this is still true. The new AMD chips have all the sse strings so does this still apply? I have been running both to use 100% of my dual cores and when I started it up it said extra sse working? I will post a pic of it below along with all my sse listing. Any input? Wake

http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=jtbdwn
https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/...2006/01/72.jpg
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=jtbech
https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/...2006/01/73.jpg

I have not yet seen anything that says QMD units will run efficiently on AMDs yet without a hack that violates the Intel compiler EULA.

The issue is that FAH uses an intel compiler for the QMD units that checks to see if it is running on an Intel CPU, if not the compiler disables SSE2. This is only an issue with QMD units though. :confused: HERE is some more info on this issue.

The unit you are running is not a QMD unit, but is a gromac.

Good to know! Well I just got a "Dell" so I have my dun dun dun daaa VERY FIRST P4! For folding model 4550 2.53 I put a gig of ram in it so maybe I should set it up for the QMD units and I could up my ppd I will give it a shot today it's not to cold out in the shop/folding farm.
Congrats on the National championship! Wake

Need some advice and thanks in advance. Got tired of paging thru this monster thread :eek: Can I run two copies of FAH using the Opty 175 in my sig. Best to use the GUI or the console? If I can run two copies, can I do it from the same or different libraries?

Sure can, it's a dual core processor correct? I prefer the console versions and like the 5.04 beta console.

Make two different named folders and download a copy of the folding program to each folder. During the configuration for each folder you must use two different machine ID's 0 for one install and 1 for the other. -local must be used for the folding graphical client, IIRC.

More stuff here: http://folding.stanford.edu/console-userguide.html

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Sure can, it's a dual core processor correct? I prefer the console versions and like the 5.04 beta console.

Make two different named folders and download a copy of the folding program to each folder. During the configuration for each folder you must use two different machine ID's 0 for one install and 1 for the other. -local must be used for the folding graphical client, IIRC.

More stuff here: http://folding.stanford.edu/console-userguide.html

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This look right???
https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/...2006/01/67.jpg

Can I do this on my single-core P4 w/HT??

Nice temp's, my P4 is about 58C running two consoles. Anyway, on a Hyper-Threading system (wish I had a dual core), if you go into services and shut one of the consoles down, task manager will report only 50%+/- usage instead of 100% and I would assume it's the same for a dual core.

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Can I do this on my single-core P4 w/HT??

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That's what I'm running two consoles with. Plus the intel system will run the big packets, QMD's.

OS-Wiz, it all looks good. I'm strictly a console guy too.

Marv, those QMDs on my Intels are monsters: I'm running 2k a day now that all my Intels are stuffed full of 'em.

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Nice temp's, my P4 is about 58C running two consoles. Anyway, on a Hyper-Threading system (wish I had a dual core), if you go into services and shut one of the consoles down, task manager will report only 50%+/- usage instead of 100% and I would assume it's the same for a dual core.

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True! :cool:
Edit: should mention that I'm using a XP-90C, Tornado, and AS5 on that rig. I can't seem to run FAH without 3rd party cooling.

Hello everyone new to sharkys :D Been reading up on some folding and thought i would lend my 3 cpus to the team. 1 is a FX-53, the other 2 are P4's. One a HTT 3.0 and the other is just a 2.8 :p Lets get some points! :cool:

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Hello everyone new to sharkys :D Been reading up on some folding and thought i would lend my 3 cpus to the team. 1 is a FX-53, the other 2 are P4's. One a HTT 3.0 and the other is just a 2.8 :p Lets get some points! :cool:

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Good to have you! :cool: If you've any questions, just ask! Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Eva_spec_ops

Hello everyone new to sharkys :D Been reading up on some folding and thought i would lend my 3 cpus to the team. 1 is a FX-53, the other 2 are P4's. One a HTT 3.0 and the other is just a 2.8 :p Lets get some points! :cool:

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Welcome we need it. Wake