oh, if i kill this, i'll just be #1 ti4200 class with 20k.Quote:
Originally posted by Saffire
Practice on something else first ;) Dun wanna see you ruin a good card and be out of the action for a while.
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oh, if i kill this, i'll just be #1 ti4200 class with 20k.Quote:
Originally posted by Saffire
Practice on something else first ;) Dun wanna see you ruin a good card and be out of the action for a while.
Go vmod that thing man... If I can do it, so can you, or get some help ;)
How much I would think that would rock... I dont want you to start killing your hardware... If you cannot do it with what you have.. Then dont.. I know how it can be difficult to clean an IC chip when the solder flows across the contacts... Its do-able.. But can be difficult with a beginner...Quote:
Originally posted by eshbach
oh, if i kill this, i'll just be #1 ti4200 class with 20k.
#1 in THE WORLD!
on a 486...
7292
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7421584 :D
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well, an A64 at 486mhz.
Uh... what the hell did you do??? ;)
I agree with Colossus. It is not worth destrying your video card for a brief stint as #1. You should bide your time, then sell the video card to me and take back #1 in an amazing flash of large 3D mark scores.
You're my hero Eshbach. When I grow up I want to be just like you.
I still don't understand why he hasn't done the damn vdimm mod... It will help you more than a video card mod, and there's no risk!
If I remember right vertices had a problem with his vdimm mod.Quote:
Originally posted by xDUCK
I still don't understand why he hasn't done the damn vdimm mod... It will help you more than a video card mod, and there's no risk!
because i'm ordering pc4200... and mainly because i can't solder to the IC, nor can i get a clip small enough.Quote:
Originally posted by xDUCK
I still don't understand why he hasn't done the damn vdimm mod... It will help you more than a video card mod, and there's no risk!
NO RISK? That is very ignorant on your part...Quote:
Originally posted by xDUCK
I still don't understand why he hasn't done the damn vdimm mod... It will help you more than a video card mod, and there's no risk!
Anytime you vmod ANYTHING it is a risk.. First on the quality of your workmanship.. And 2nd on how well the memory can handle the added voltage... If a person does it wrong and applies to much voltage with not enough cooling... Opps there goes the board or memory!
No risk????
:rolleyes:
mickeymouse at xtreme just killed his AN50R within the past few days after doing vdimm and vcore mods... and i'm not nearly as experienced as he is.Quote:
NO RISK? That is very ignorant on your part... Anytime you vmod ANYTHING it is a risk.. First on the quality of your workmanship.. And 2nd on how well the memory can handle the added voltage... If a person does it wrong and applies to much voltage with not enough cooling... Opps there goes the board or memory! No risk???? :rolleyes:
i just checked the sharkyextreme 3dmark, and under video overclock, my video is put under 9800pro, my video card is a 9800 non-pro.. just wanna clear that up :D
Well, whether he vmods the video card or RAM, he will have to solder (or use SMD grabbers, which IMHO, is more dangerous). So the danger of a mod gone wrong is present in both scenarios. What I am saying is, any quality (Corsair, Kingston, etc) memory can take 3.2v without *any* risk. There are people on XS who have been running 3.2x for over a year. The 9800 mod, on the other hand, is potentially more costly and offers less potential benefit (how far is a video vmod going to get you on air?! 20-30mhz on core, 10-20mhz on ram; if you're lucky).
3.2v would get you 250 1:1 2-2-2-5, perhaps even more. 3.3v would give you 255-260 (depends on RAM). 3.4v would get you 260-265. 3.5v would get you 265-270. And 3.6v would allow you to max out your board at a cool 27xfsb 1:1 2-2-2-5.
Think about it. ;)
Which is why he needs to practice on some old circuit boards first ;)
But to each his own.
Pfft, I dove right in and did my NF7-S's vdimm mod precisely on my first try! It's not that hard if you following the correct procedure; we're not soldering to traces here.Quote:
Originally posted by Saffire
Which is why he needs to practice on some old circuit boards first ;)
But to each his own.
if i mod the 9800 it will be the core... someone just talked me out of it for now, but as it is, 30mhz on the core would put me very close to 24.5k, and combine that with 270 1:1 and i'm looking at a big big number. i'm ordering my RAM tomorrow, so i'll see how far that gets me and judge from there.Quote:
Originally posted by xDUCK
Well, whether he vmods the video card or RAM, he will have to solder (or use SMD grabbers, which IMHO, is more dangerous). So the danger of a mod gone wrong is present in both scenarios. What I am saying is, any quality (Corsair, Kingston, etc) memory can take 3.2v without *any* risk. There are people on XS who have been running 3.2x for over a year. The 9800 mod, on the other hand, is potentially more costly and offers less potential benefit (how far is a video vmod going to get you on air?! 20-30mhz on core, 10-20mhz on ram; if you're lucky).
3.2v would get you 250 1:1 2-2-2-5, perhaps even more. 3.3v would give you 255-260 (depends on RAM). 3.4v would get you 260-265. 3.5v would get you 265-270. And 3.6v would allow you to max out your board at a cool 27xfsb 1:1 2-2-2-5.
Think about it. ;)
doing the vdimm mod would not get me 2-2-2-5, the best i can do on that is 210fsb on 2.9v. it could (possibly) get me 250 2-2-3-5, but since my ras:cas is going to be 3 anyway, i think the pc4200 RAM will give me the performance i need at a price i can live with, as i take almost no loss (i have a buyer for my current RAM).
Fair enough... But beware, when I get an A64 (waiting for NF250), you will be stomped to the ground and regret your PC4200! :pQuote:
Originally posted by eshbach
if i mod the 9800 it will be the core... someone just talked me out of it for now, but as it is, 30mhz on the core would put me very close to 24.5k, and combine that with 270 1:1 and i'm looking at a big big number. i'm ordering my RAM tomorrow, so i'll see how far that gets me and judge from there.
doing the vdimm mod would not get me 2-2-2-5, the best i can do on that is 210fsb on 2.9v. it could (possibly) get me 250 2-2-3-5, but since my ras:cas is going to be 3 anyway, i think the pc4200 RAM will give me the performance i need at a price i can live with, as i take almost no loss (i have a buyer for my current RAM).
And there are people who pump 1.8v through their P4 chip to overclock it for a year or so and then die!Quote:
Originally posted by xDUCK
Well, whether he vmods the video card or RAM, he will have to solder (or use SMD grabbers, which IMHO, is more dangerous). So the danger of a mod gone wrong is present in both scenarios. What I am saying is, any quality (Corsair, Kingston, etc) memory can take 3.2v without *any* risk. There are people on XS who have been running 3.2x for over a year. The 9800 mod, on the other hand, is potentially more costly and offers less potential benefit (how far is a video vmod going to get you on air?! 20-30mhz on core, 10-20mhz on ram; if you're lucky).
3.2v would get you 250 1:1 2-2-2-5, perhaps even more. 3.3v would give you 255-260 (depends on RAM). 3.4v would get you 260-265. 3.5v would get you 265-270. And 3.6v would allow you to max out your board at a cool 27xfsb 1:1 2-2-2-5.
Think about it. ;)
Doesnt mean it is risk free... Anything you run above recommended voltages is risking a failure of any hardware...
The debate about which would yield a better score is interesting.. Since a 20Mhz on the core with 25 extra on the ram can be quite a few hundred points... Which is about the same for the ram being pushed harder... But the ram might yield a slightly better score, but it would be pretty close...
i will have absolutely no problem being second to you. you are a far more experienced and funded enthusiast than i am, and you have helped me in the past. plus, you use AMD chips. if i was second to an AMD right now, i don't know that i would care as much.Quote:
Originally posted by xDUCK
Fair enough... But beware, when I get an A64 (waiting for NF250), you will be stomped to the ground and regret your PC4200! :p
Well said! ;) Don't let those Intel swines overtake you!:p :DQuote:
Originally posted by eshbach
i will have absolutely no problem being second to you. you are a far more experienced and funded enthusiast than i am, and you have helped me in the past. plus, you use AMD chips. if i was second to an AMD right now, i don't know that i would care as much.
Hopefully I can give you a lil bit of competition when my stuff comes in Friday ;)
*sweats* Practically bought myself a brand new computer :| (3200+, AN50R, A2 ZS, Plextor DVDRW...)
Perhaps I should just buy a 3200+ XP, a 9800 XT, and a DFI Infinity... And see if I can beat all of your A64's. Certainly would be an interesting challenge. :D
Kind of a waste of money though. :(
wow, you're getting what i have... it'll be very close between us (unless you've got some video card power hidden away somewhere).Quote:
Originally posted by Saffire
Hopefully I can give you a lil bit of competition when my stuff comes in Friday ;)
*sweats* Practically bought myself a brand new computer :| (3200+, AN50R, A2 ZS, Plextor DVDRW...)
xDuck: PC4200 is a waste of money, but you're going to buy a 3200XP...??? just wait for nforce3 250, that sounds promising.
When I get it tomorrow (*whine*, can't wait) I'll probably be askin you about scores you got at certain settings and whatnot (like at stock speeds, etc etc). Weekend is good chance for me to bench cause my A2 ZS and DVDRW won't be coming in till Monday :mad: So I'll be torturing the stuff. Hopefully I can give you guys in the top some competition :)
Ah well, I got some stuff to tide me over till tomorrow, got 2 computers worth of stuff today (well, some stuff coming in tomorrow) just sitting up taking up half my room ~ building for some peeps and making some $$$
i'll answer your questions, but it's pretty much the same as any other AMD system. if you can get 24k in a weekend, i will be very impressed.Quote:
Originally posted by Saffire
When I get it tomorrow (*whine*, can't wait) I'll probably be askin you about scores you got at certain settings and whatnot (like at stock speeds, etc etc). Weekend is good chance for me to bench cause my A2 ZS and DVDRW won't be coming in till Monday :mad: So I'll be torturing the stuff. Hopefully I can give you guys in the top some competition :)