I would be pissed if I was an oakland fan. Thats who this is hurting more than anyone imo. I feel bad for McCown too, he looked like he was finally going to get a shot at being a starter, then BAM, he got Culpeppered.
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I would be pissed if I was an oakland fan. Thats who this is hurting more than anyone imo. I feel bad for McCown too, he looked like he was finally going to get a shot at being a starter, then BAM, he got Culpeppered.
Oh well, if he doesn't sign or doesn't work out we will always have Vick in 2009 or 2010, the nation is always ready to sign the next f'up... pacman will welcome him to our team with open arms.Quote:
Originally Posted by spamjedi
McCown was the starter in AZ
I think he meant that McCown was finally going to be a starter on a pro team, not a high school team. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by vairox
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That joke was funnier in my head before I remembered he now plays for the Raiders.
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lol, true that. Hey they are getting better, little by little... come on now, Boldin and Fitz? thats a KILLER duo, more physically gifted duo than Harrison and Wayne and they are the best in the business.... Harrison is in a class by himself.
No O-line --------> QB appears to suck -------------> even Boldin and Fitz can't help.
I was at work and could not watch...how did Mcnabb look? I saw his numbers where pretty impressive. I will have to Tivo the replay on NFL network.
Mcnabb looked good. McCown looked like crap for the quarter plus he played as far as I'm concerned. Walters looked like he could be a good quarterback as long as the line protects him. He didn't break Elways collegiate record for being sucky.
The Panthers looked downright horrible. McNabb looked sharp early, then kind of fell off the more he played.
I think Walter (no S) is a franchise QB, guy just needs time - he got jacked up all rookie year, not a good way to start a career or build confidence.... guy can develop into a killer QB, he has the arm strength.
I think that they're getting better too. That is a WICKED pair of recievers.Quote:
Originally Posted by vairox
No O-line. But that is fixable. These things can vary greatly from season to season.Quote:
No O-line --------> QB appears to suck -------------> even Boldin and Fitz can't help.
I think that the QB judgement is premature.
Leinhart was a rookie. He had no running game to speak of last year. Arizona's D had never been great.
http://www.nfl.com/players/mattleina...e?id=LEI453701
Not bad stats for a rookie QB in that situation I'd say.
Compare his with McNabb's first season... and I'd argue that McNabb had WAY better support around him.
http://www.nfl.com/players/donovanmc...s?id=MCN017517
I agree Leinart will be good; it was more of a statement about bad o-lines in general and how they can wreck an otherwise potent offense.
otoh, I don't think that the line is easy to fix. These guys have to gel and communicate well, and the center has to possess a good amount of savvy for sure. These things are especially true on the road, when the opposing crowd gets noisy.
Aright, I can but I can't believe how good the afc is. If you don't know, i'm a straight up giants fan, but there are so many teams in the afc that are just sooo good. The broncos, colts, ravens, chargers, chiefs, not to mention the pats with their insanely stud receving corps. Of all the teams I doubt the chiefs the most, for obvious reasons.
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Mcnabb had a better defense, but a WAY worse offense. I mean not even in the same ballpark.
I do think Leinert will end up being pretty good, if they protect him better. Its just not as easy to improve an O-Line as you seem to be hinting, thats why you see a lot of teams paying top dollar for average linemen.
the AFC west is like the OK Corral, it gets wild and crazy when any 2 teams face eachother.
Boldin and Fitz, you could argue back and forth about which one is better than the other... that's dangerous.
The defenses are a world apart.Quote:
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Arizona has a bad one, and Philly's at that time was VERY good.
As for offense... McNabb had a decent O-Line back then (whereas Leihart's isn't good at all) and McNabb also had Duce Staley who was havibng good years. In fact, Staley had his best year in 1999 with 1,200 yards rushing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duce_Staley
(i.e. he had a decent running game vs. NO running game to take the pressures off of him)
So I disagree here... I think that McNabb had better support on offense as well... if ONLY because of the O-Line.
the ONLY area on O where Leinhart has an advantage is at the WR position... which is minimized when you get sacked as much as Leinhart does.