P4 & Rambus

i don't think that people have put rambus on graphics cards yet becuase it's just not viable. Look at the price of the geforce2 ultra, and then imagine what would happen to the price if they put RDRAM instead of DDR.
What i meant earlier about demand lowering prices is that it is cheaper to produce and buy things in volume, so if demand does increase then they will probably lower the prices as they will be producing a lot more, but saying that if they can't keep up with the demand then prices will rise.

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Originally posted by Thrawn_CW:
i don't think that people have put rambus on graphics cards yet becuase it's just not viable. Look at the price of the geforce2 ultra, and then imagine what would happen to the price if they put RDRAM instead of DDR.
What i meant earlier about demand lowering prices is that it is cheaper to produce and buy things in volume, so if demand does increase then they will probably lower the prices as they will be producing a lot more, but saying that if they can't keep up with the demand then prices will rise.

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One of the biggest costs for Rambus memory is the RIMMs. Electrically, RIMMs need to go through an exhaustive validation process. Putting Rambus on a video card will actually be much cheaper than DDR, and higher performance. Video card makers don't use it because DDR has already shown itself to be a viable method.

Via will most likely have a pentium 4 ddr chipset out. Intel is dragging their feet on ddr because of RamAss agreements. Intel is in a position where because of the agreements with RamAss they will probably license Via the p4 bus to make p4 ddr chipsets to avoid losing p4 sales because of rdram.

I think its pretty funny that Intel made Via grow so much in a year for Intel's failure to support pc133. Now Via may end up helping Intel with their p4 in the same way.

DDR should beat pc800 in both speed and cost. Pc800 isn't much faster than pc133 for far more money. Rdramm raises the price of a p4 system without increasing the performance enough to justify the cost increase.

The best thing for Intel to do would be buying out RamAss and getting out of all the agreements. Also killing all of the licensing agreements that memory makers have signed with RamAss. That would show some intelligent leadership by Intel. Anything that interferes with open memory standards is not going to help Intel in the long run. Cpus without ram just do not sell.

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Originally posted by Trash:
[B]DDR should beat pc800 in both speed and cost. Pc800 isn't much faster than pc133 for far more money. Rdramm raises the price of a p4 system without increasing the performance enough to justify the cost increase.

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RDRAM technology has received a bad name from the company who invented it! We have not even seen RDRAM's full potential. It should have never been released with the 133 MHz fsb. RDRAM will, I think excel when it is placed on the upcoming 400mhz fsb where it can take advantage of the bandwidth. As for price I just picked up another 128 Megs of PC 800 for $179.00 that is only about $50.00 more then a good stick of 133.



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Well, I think this arguement may well be moot. Intel has now stated that they made a mistake in their faith in Rambus. There is a good article at http://news.ft.com/ft/gx.cgi/ftc?pag...id=ZZZJIU2RA0C

on how Intel rue's their partnership with Rambus. I think it's a good indication that rambus may soon join micro channel architecture on those 'Computer Museum' websites.

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Like I said it not the technology its the company and there whiney *** attitude.

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Originally posted by ginsu2k:
> I know DDR has been available on video cards but not motu's.

you answer your own question...really, if RAMBUS was superior, wouldn't we have seen it on Video Cards by now? i mean, that's the most bandwith intensive scenario i can think of for RAM...
...honestly, if they had superior tech. why would they sue other manufacturers for producing DDR...they know it's not working out so they're scratching the walls for something before they go down...seriously

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Right on! But RAMBUS is also suing rival CPU manufactors that will support DDR, like AMD and Transmeta. I say RAMBUS blows, after Craig Barret denounced them a week ago, their days are numbered. Intel's priority will be to get a SDRAM chipset for the p4 out ASAP.



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Rambus is suing DDR manufacturers because they want money. Rambus could give a crap what is faster or better memory. They just want to get some of the proceeds. They aren't even a manufacturer, they own the "intellecule property". RDRAM isn't a bad technology, niether is DDR. RDRAM is so expensive because nobody wants to agree to pay rambus for it so nobody is producing it. This creates a basic supply and demand situation. If we could remove rambus from the face of the earth I bet we would see rdram all over the integrated market.

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