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CD protection is worthless. it only annoys legit buyers and really doesn't bother pirators at all.Quote:
Originally posted by Recon
JKII has no protection on the CD!
You'd think someone as security paranoid as lucas would be running at the very least SD2. But nope notta, I almost couldnt believe it for a while I figured he was running some brand new type of protection. But a couple checks on the boards showed the general feeling is the US version of JK II is protection free.
I admit I have gotten copies of burned games, but if I liked them, I bought them.
Got a burned copy of UT. Liked it, so I bought it.
Got a burned copy of B&W. Din't like it, didn't buy it, don't play it.
Found SS1 for $19, read good reviews, and because of low price, I just bought it. Got a burned copy of SS2, played it, liked it, bought it.
I honestly think if game developers would price their stuff better, people would be more willing to buy their stuff. They would make up the difference in lower profit per game with volume sales. Also, with game prices more reasonable, they defeat the main purpose of people burning the games, that being that it is so expensive that no one wants to buy them.
It was because of a pirated copy of Tribes which I got into that I bought Tribes 2 the day it was released. (I never once saw Tribes for sale here in the UK and I looked regularly)
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Originally posted by Mr Cherry
Surprisingly it was this kind of no-piracy protection that allowed the original Starsiege: Tribes game to become so popular. People who bought this game (I pre-ordered from Sierra) soon found out that they could make copies for there friends and let them play. Once this was discovered the Tribes community got a large boost, which is still running strong today. Maybe because of this JK2 will become even more popular, which means more servers,and more fun.
Go Lucas, Best $60 bucks I've spent in a long time.
Listen to this GUY...EVERYONE LISTEN TO HIM! Finally someone who was bold enough to say what I wouldn't. Mr Cherry I wish I could just shake your hand bro because this is the exact logic I am talking about. By blocking games especially the multiplayer part people who actually do pirated it give can end up giving it fame and fortune (in other words spot light) just like Tribes and Unreal Tournament, JK2, MOHAA and many others. Now every game that blocks the online mode doesn't become as succesful like RTCW. Used to have 9,000 people playing until in the 1.1 patch they blocked pirated copies.
Just saying piracy MAKES a gmae more then it breaks it. I mean if pirateers can't make a game look good then obviously it sucked because it wasn't good enough to spawn a user base to create a sequel.
That may sound absurd but think about it. Really think about it.
BTW I am legit and I BUY every game/software I actually use and play.
Aye, copy protection seems to be a useless endeavor; but CD Keys are great
yeah i do the same(rarely) as well. i got SOFII from a friend(burned copy) and i liked it but except i cant play online. Now i bought it and i must say it is koo to have tried it first.Quote:
Originally posted by Un4given
I admit I have gotten copies of burned games, but if I liked them, I bought them.
Got a burned copy of UT. Liked it, so I bought it.
Got a burned copy of B&W. Din't like it, didn't buy it, don't play it.
Found SS1 for $19, read good reviews, and because of low price, I just bought it. Got a burned copy of SS2, played it, liked it, bought it.
I honestly think if game developers would price their stuff better, people would be more willing to buy their stuff. They would make up the difference in lower profit per game with volume sales. Also, with game prices more reasonable, they defeat the main purpose of people burning the games, that being that it is so expensive that no one wants to buy them.
Whats SD2???????????
safedisk 2
Is Safedisc2 like a disc that you need to install also? Like in SOF II and No One Lives Forever?
I like the idea of CD-Keys, and registering your game so no one can take your key or copy.
I guess what Snoop Dog is saying is right, and of course it will strenghen the online community. But stealing games is still wrong, unless you are just so poor that you can't afford one game then maybe having a few pirated copies of games isn't wrong, but still.
But indeed, copy protection doesn't work because there are too many geeks willing to go around it, and where theres a will theres a way. So I think if you want a legit copy then CD-Keys (and regestering it) is the only way to keep people from playing it online. But even then people will figure it out, oh well. I buy my games because I feel that a developer such as Raven deserves the credit, and money they may earn from it. If they create a good enough game than I am willing to buy it.
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Originally posted by Idiot356
I like the idea of CD-Keys, and registering your game so no one can take your key or copy.
I guess what Snoop Dog is saying is right, and of course it will strenghen the online community. But stealing games is still wrong, unless you are just so poor that you can't afford one game then maybe having a few pirated copies of games isn't wrong, but still.
But indeed, copy protection doesn't work because there are too many geeks willing to go around it, and where theres a will theres a way. So I think if you want a legit copy then CD-Keys (and regestering it) is the only way to keep people from playing it online. But even then people will figure it out, oh well. I buy my games because I feel that a developer such as Raven deserves the credit, and money they may earn from it. If they create a good enough game than I am willing to buy it.
I second that :D :D
I agree that trying to copy-protect CD's steers more customers away more so then it inspires people to buy there own. I absolutely refuse to buy a game I can't install on my PC, my secondary one in case someone wants to come over and play, and my brother's PC. I want to be able to buy one copy of a game and give it to my bro's for free and have us all be able to play online. They don't have money to be blowing on games and I don't think I should have to buy 3 copies.
Also, if I register my SFII CD-KEY, my brothers and I will still be able to play online together correct???? Right now we are able to so I don't want to screw that up.
That's just rediculous. Let's not have laws because people will and enjoy breaking them anyway. . .:rolleyes: Let's face it, if there were NO protection whatsoever, piracy would in fact increase to some degree. Software piracy is illegal and this is why money is invested to enforce the legal distribution of games and apps. Listen, if you spent countless hours programming a piece of software that you invested a good amount of your life to, you also would want to invest in software protection (which doesn't put much dent in profits) and show some dignity for you work.Quote:
Originally posted by Snoop Dogg
My point exactly. Nowadays they are wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars securing the game with technology that is already hacked so why waste the money and just let the hackers win? I mean they jack up prices because they have to pay so much more to protect there damn game that we know will be hacked regardless :(. I am sorry but I miss teh $30 games and dont like fronting $40 to $50 to make up for there losses trying to protect stuff. I can tell you not people who download a pirated game but actually uses it, they make less of a money loss then making the stupid protection does. So they just use piracy as an excuse and its pathetic cuz not all of us are rich asses.
-James
My favorite Game Selling Model (?) would have to Value's, creators of halflife. That is one game I actually felt good about buying because I was supporting a goood cause. You buy the base game (HL) for around $20-30, now you have the choice of going online and downloading Counter-strike, Day of Defeat, other mods, etc. for free, but if you don't have a fast internet connection (most people still use modems) then you can buy the Counter-Strike retail version and save yourself the days of downloading. I will buy Condition Zero when it comes out because not only do they make great titles, and Counter-strike is the god of videogame FPS's, but it's a business model that I really like and would love to see more companies use.
and we come back to the same argument:
are the developers really loosing money with people like me who wouldnt buy their product if i couldnt get it for free anyways?