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Well we are sharkyforums, but the forums are a loss of money for INT media. Sharkyextreme is what can make them some money and we have nothing to do with that.Quote:
Originally posted by Trav2003
We are not the customers of this site as previously stated. We are the employees of this site. Though we get no money from it, we are the people that keep sharky alive. We are the people that keep the site running. We may not get paid for the services we offer, but we ARE the site...
Using the above logic, every customer of Seagate - a buyer of a disk drive is an employee of Seagate. Customers are what keep Seagate or any business/corporation alive.Quote:
Originally posted by Trav2003
We are not the customers of this site as previously stated. We are the employees of this site. Though we get no money from it, we are the people that keep sharky alive. We are the people that keep the site running. We may not get paid for the services we offer, but we ARE the site...
What I'm trying to get across is the fact that sharkyforums may be a $$$ loss, but you get rid of the forums and the people that visit the site, and you've got nothing left to run on.Quote:
Originally posted by ua549
Using the above logic, every customer of Seagate - a buyer of a disk drive is an employee of Seagate. Customers are what keep Seagate or any business/corporation alive.
I was trying to sound cool... apparently i've failed :p
I think you were close but missed it by a hair; point I was making was that they don't consider us customers(or employees either) and what we wish for doesn't really mattter that much to them(ie they won't be bringing back OT forums because they don't care if we want them or not).Quote:
Originally posted by Trav2003
What I'm trying to get across is the fact that sharkyforums may be a $$$ loss, but you get rid of the forums and the people that visit the site, and you've got nothing left to run on.
I was trying to sound cool... apparently i've failed :p
I'm sure they think having the forums is a headache because they have no control over the users of it except for the terms of service agreement(banning and moderating topics) and what forum topics they can have; but with 20,000 or so registered users(and the forums are basically the only reason to register) they can trim down and moderate heavily but I don't think they can afford to get rid of them or they risk losing their subscriber base(oops I forgot we are not customers even if we have to register to use it).
Personally with 20,000 users I think they should probably add a few more forums to keep it interesting(ie O/T or others).
go visit Internet.com and you'll see why they are not named "sharky". The corporation owns many, many, many websites, and sharky's just happens to be one of them. The company is neither good nor bad, it is an entity trying to gain an increasing life expectancy in a market where the competitors are drying up every day. Luckily, things are starting to pull together again for Dot com's.
There are two types of customers. You have the advertisers, which is where most of the funding comes in, and then you have the users who click the advertising links. The forums are run at a loss, but that is the case for most places.
I dont think I will buy one of these from CaTaLyST at a price of $9.95Quote:
Originally posted by JabberJaw
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Contains no ego, just some propylene glycol, water, sodium stearate, alchohol, fd&c blue no.1, and fd&c yellow no.5, etc., etc...
Lasts longer than the Roll-on, too:
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when I am able to buy one at my local store for a couple bucks. Also he would probly charge me shipping too :rolleyes:
Anyways love the new forum and CaTaLyST has the right idea going on for it. As far as this post goes... some people just think they are cool beating up the cool guy.
I'm kinda wondering what you mean by this.Quote:
Originally posted by BL1NK
I dont think I will buy one of these from CaTaLyST at a price of $9.95
when I am able to buy one at my local store for a couple bucks. Also he would probly charge me shipping too :rolleyes:
I could be mistaken, but wasn't one of the reasons why Internet.com spent a lot of money on SharkyExtreme was to be able to use the name? That's like buying out Microsoft, but changing the name to something else that nobody would even reconize anymore.Quote:
Originally posted by Belial
Why doesn't INT change the name of this site to better reflect the fact that they are in control and the only think that matters is advertising revenue(that's why they bought this site right?).
I think CaT is a great admin for the site. He takes an active role and participates in discussions which I think is very important. The avat/count show that he has a sense of humor, which I commented on in the post referenced by Wurm (thanks). I don't see how this could possibly be a bad thing. You can say I'm brown nosing all you want but I'm just sharing my opinion. Some of you out there really need to lighten up, and if you have some horrible problem with someone just PM them. How did this get turned into a debate on profit/management anyway?
Well the point is that if you keep the old name you should also keep running the site the same way; otherwise what is the point?Quote:
Originally posted by krazie662
I could be mistaken, but wasn't one of the reasons why Internet.com spent a lot of money on SharkyExtreme was to be able to use the name? That's like buying out Microsoft, but changing the name to something else that nobody would even reconize anymore.
It's good too see we are considered customers now though.
The point is probably to make more money from the name than they spent on it (thus profit), it's an aim most businesses share. :)Quote:
Originally posted by Belial
Well the point is that if you keep the old name you should also keep running the site the same way; otherwise what is the point?
Well, i dont really see what the big deal with the name is. The site already had traffic, and the original owner, Alex "sharky" ross, sold the site to internet.com. When that happened, Internet.com left the name the way it was, because I imgaine it would have been pretty off the wall to change the name, when there was already a steady flow of traffic, and repeat users. Internet.com wont change its name to sharkyextreme.com, because Sharky's is only one of *many* sites that they own. If that were the case, they would have changed names to HardWareCentral, Virtual DR, or Sysopt, and so on...
Personally, I dont mind Internet.com buying out all of the old sites, which I used to be active on. I'd much rather see someone else own them, than the sites going broke and folding. I used to be a user of many of the sites Internet.com purchased. I was active on the entire MyDesktop network, prior to internet.com aquiring it. That's actually where i got my start. I was a mod/admin for the network when Internet.com purchased the network. Housen felt i had potential, and liked how i was rather involved with the users of the forums, so he kept me as part of the team. Later, when we obtained SE, he had me move over here, because this was a "larger" traffic site.
I guess I did something right in Housen's eyes :P
Anyhow, I truly love my position, and I think Housen was great to work under, as I learned a ton from him. Granted, I lost some of my involvement with the user groups, but that is somewhat needed, so I can be unbiased, when making decissions.
I miss my old online magazine (review site), and I still really want to write reviews, but I'm not even up to date on the current benchmarking software. I've lost touch on writing reviews, i guess.
I appreciate CaT's efforts, as well as Internetdotcom's hosting of this bbs. Although I do miss the irreverant Sharky team. They had flair which is lacking nowadays. Vince Freeman is certainly competent and I enjoy reading his articles, but I doubt we'll ever see pics in his review of him with his hair dyed green, balancing a video card on his head, lol. That's why to many folks Sharky's exists in name only, and not in character.
btw, my previous post was quoted a couple of times, so just to be clear I meant no insult to anyone. Point was that CaT's Ban Stick, and Ban stick deodorant, not only share a moniker, but a purpose - they're both applied to block obnoxious sources that would otherwise 'stink up' the local atmosphere;)