yup, the weller soldering stations are great, for smt work get a fine tip for it too. I got a 5 finger discount on mine! :D
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yup, the weller soldering stations are great, for smt work get a fine tip for it too. I got a 5 finger discount on mine! :D
Don't get a needle tip - get one that comes to a point, but is flattened on 2 sides. Kind of like if you made a paper cone by rolling up a sheet of paper, and then squashed it a little. Pick up the resisitor between the flat spots on the 2 soldering irons.
And you sure are proud of your deed. :(Quote:
Originally posted by Elxman
I got a 5 finger discount on mine! :D
As for if anyone is interested into the soldering stashion, i think that they could check this out:
http://www.crawfordtool.com/weller.html
Peace.
The top station on that link is what I use @ work. 2 of those and you are set!Quote:
Originally posted by Iceball_AARF
And you sure are proud of your deed. :(
As for if anyone is interested into the soldering stashion, i think that they could check this out:
http://www.crawfordtool.com/weller.html
Peace.
so nobody answered my question...
is this mod really for real? and is there anything describing where and what exactly to solder?
Lets clarify one thing. This mod would make the card a 9500 Pro, not a 9700.
The 9700 and 9700 Pro are the same, except for the lower GPU/memory speed of the 9700. Both of these cards are fit with all 8 rendering pipes in working order, and have the 256-bit memory bus. The only difference is GPU/memory speed.
The 9500 Pro has all 8 pipes working, but only has a 128-bit memory bus. This memory bus is physically limited to 128-bit by the number of trace contacts on the board and how the memory is banked.
The 9500 (non-Pro) only has 4 of the rendering pipes enabled and a 128-bit memory bus. The mod in question pertains to this card. The mod should, in theory, enabled the other rendering pipes that are disabled, bringing the card to 8 rendering pipes and 128-bit memory bus...thus a 9500 Pro, and not any form of the 9700.
Wrong, the 9500 non-pro 128MB has a 256-bit memory bus and 4 rendering pipelines. What this mod does is give it 8 rendering pipelines, turning it into a 9700(non-pro) .Quote:
Originally posted by Un4given
The 9500 (non-Pro) only has 4 of the rendering pipes enabled and a 128-bit memory bus. The mod in question pertains to this card. The mod should, in theory, enabled the other rendering pipes that are disabled, bringing the card to 8 rendering pipes and 128-bit memory bus...thus a 9500 Pro, and not any form of the 9700.
Nope, only the 9700 cards are fitted with a 256-bit memory bus.Quote:
Originally posted by NoTiG
Wrong, the 9500 non-pro 128MB has a 256-bit memory bus and 4 rendering pipelines. What this mod does is give it 8 rendering pipelines, turning it into a 9700(non-pro) .
Taken from the Anandtech 9500 Pro review.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1735&p=2
Quote:
The Radeon 9500 Pro has two 64-bit DDR memory controllers instead of the four in the Radeon 9700 Pro. This cuts the 9500 Pro's memory bandwidth to half of the 9700 Pro at identical clock speeds, and puts it in line with the GeForce4's 128-bit DDR memory subsystem.
Then there's the Radeon 9500 (non-Pro) which also has the reduction in memory bandwidth, but along with that it also loses half of its rendering pipelines. This makes the regular Radeon 9500 a significantly worse performer as it still only has one texture unit per pipeline, giving it a disadvantage when compared to the GeForce4.
you are right... i've been to newegg and saphire, and everything says 128 bit memory bus. so at least on paper, all non-pro and even pros are 128-bit.Quote:
Originally posted by Un4given
Nope, only the 9700 cards are fitted with a 256-bit memory bus.
Taken from the Anandtech 9500 Pro review.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1735&p=2
so... what's going on here?
Sorry un4 but thats wrong dude the 128 meg saphires are 256bit with 4 pips they say its only 128bit but in actuallity its 256 if you do the mod and bios hack.
heres a link http://www.guru3d.com/comments.php?c...47a19a5de6d13bQuote:
You all probably know Unwinder right ? He's the programmer of RivaTuner which we distribute here on Guru3D.com as we are the official English homepage/distro.
Well, I have some interesting news to share which i just received from Igor over at the Russian RivaTuner homepage nvWorld.ru
You all read about the hardware modification to turn your Radeon 9500 into a Radeon 9700 with the soldier and BIOS trick right ? This time we'll talk about modification at software level!
Unwinder's attempts to unlock additional 4 pixel pipelines in RADEON 9500 64MB have succeeded at last, so his SoftR9700 patch script can turn any 128-bit R9500 into 9500PRO and any 256-bit R9500 into R9700 without soldering the resistor on the R300 GPU and without loosing warranty!
IXBT.com is preparing a detailed review on how to do all this, and nvWorld.ru & Guru3D.com are preparing to launch new RivaTuner v2.0 RC12.1, which will contain SoftR9700 scripts.
Expect the new Rivatuner in about 1-2 weeks !
If you like to discuss this topic then please go to this forum-thread where the programmer can be found also. I must warn you though do not bug him with questions like 'how much longer until the new RivaTuner is out'. To post/reply you need to be registered to the forums.
UPDATE: I'm receiving a lot of questions on how to identify the 128 and 256bit versions. This is easy, the 64MB model is 128bit and can be 'upgraded' to an 8 pixel pipeline Pro model. The 128 MB version is 256bit and can be upgraded towards Radeon 9700. Also remember we are talking about Radeon 9500 graphics cards, not Radeon 9500 Pro!
Also there a huge *** thread on rage3d 20 pages long and a huge *** thread on [H]ocp
I orderd my 128 on saturday from newegg so i wont be able to post finding till tomorrow.
Edit.. more nfo
r9500 64mb = 128bit+4pipelines----hacked = 9500 pro 64mb
r9500 128mb= 256bit+4pipelines----hacked = 9700
r9500 pro = 128bit+8pipelines----not hackable because it has 8 piplines
Edit 3d marks from a modded one
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5567659 before mod
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5569623 modded to 9700
p.s its a xp 2600 no oc i took this from a user from hardocp(impulse)
Edit.. heres his xp2600 at 2400 mhz
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5569764 :eek: there aint no 9500 pro that doing that. :D
if you mod it tomorrow, definitely keep us updated :DQuote:
Originally posted by Weedkiller420
Sorry un4 but thats wrong dude the 128 meg saphires are 256bit with 4 pips they say its only 128bit but in actuallity its 256 if you do the mod and bios hack.
heres a link http://www.guru3d.com/comments.php?c...47a19a5de6d13b
Also there a huge *** thread on rage3d 20 pages long and a huge *** thread on [H]ocp
I orderd my 128 on saturday from newegg so i wont be able to post finding till tomorrow.
Edit.. more nfo
r9500 64mb = 128bit+4pipelines----hacked = 9500 pro 64mb
r9500 128mb= 256bit+4pipelines----hacked = 9700
r9500 pro = 128bit+8pipelines----not hackable because it has 8 piplines
Edit 3d marks from a modded one
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5567659 before mod
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5569623 modded to 9700
p.s its a xp 2600 no oc i took this from a user from hardocp(impulse)
Edit.. heres his xp2600 at 2400 mhz
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5569764 :eek: there aint no 9500 pro that doing that. :D
http://www.fedex.com/cgi-bin/trackin...s=630603189080
If the god dam fed would get it here i would :)
But anyway software is possible but i might just modded it since my friends uncle is a professional solder so i might have him do it. Just so i dont have to wait.
Wonder if i could brake 17k I got it7max 2.53 @3040 160fsb ddr424 c2 :D i get 14121 now with my ti4400
Weedkiller, thanks a lot for that info!, i guess i should start revisiting Guru3d.com, it´s really a good info!, and being me a faithfull user of the rivatuner software conversion to Quadro i´m very eager to see reviews/benchmarks on that.. if it works all the way i think that my next upgrade will be a 9500 normal instead of a 9500 pro ;) :D
Peace.
If you do want one you have to act fast, remeber the 9500 pcb are finished and in use only those older ones will work. but good luck any way i just cant wait till tomorrowQuote:
Originally posted by Iceball_AARF
Weedkiller, thanks a lot for that info!, i guess i should start revisiting Guru3d.com, it´s really a good info!, and being me a faithfull user of the rivatuner software conversion to Quadro i´m very eager to see reviews/benchmarks on that.. if it works all the way i think that my next upgrade will be a 9500 normal instead of a 9500 pro ;) :D
Peace.
Bfd1942 maxed 1024x768 6xfsaa + 16xaf oh god that will just be crazy.
Edit.. some more nfo on the 256 bit
"Card on ATI RADEON 9500 have 128-bit or 256-bit bus, depending on a quantity of video memory. Since these boards are done on PCB from RADEON 9700, it equipped 64-bit half-sized versions, which have exactly half of chips, from RADEON 9700, i.e., 128 bits. Then the 128-megabaytnye boards, which have 8 chips of memory, installed exactly as on RADEON 9700, have the "valuable" 256-bit bus of memory. "
Heres the proof un4given this was done long ago
http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...r9500-128.html
I know some of the first cards still used a 9700 PCB, but let me also bring my post from Kero-Chans' thread over here, because it still doesn't address some of the problems of getting 256-bit access.Quote:
Originally posted by Weedkiller420
If you do want one you have to act fast, remeber the 9500 pcb are finished and in use only those older ones will work. but good luck any way i just cant wait till tomorrow
Bfd1942 maxed 1024x768 6xfsaa + 16xaf oh god that will just be crazy.
Edit.. some more nfo on the 256 bit
"Card on ATI RADEON 9500 have 128-bit or 256-bit bus, depending on a quantity of video memory. Since these boards are done on PCB from RADEON 9700, it equipped 64-bit half-sized versions, which have exactly half of chips, from RADEON 9700, i.e., 128 bits. Then the 128-megabaytnye boards, which have 8 chips of memory, installed exactly as on RADEON 9700, have the "valuable" 256-bit bus of memory. "
Heres the proof un4given this was done long ago
http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...r9500-128.html
Quote:
That still doesn't answer all the questions. When you bank the memory it has to be done in such a way that all of the 256-bit memory is filled. That would mean that onces half of the bus is disabled, so is access to half the memory. That would still mean that for the 128MB card to have 128MB, it would have to be outfitted with 256MB of total memory to still give access to 128MB of it once half the memory bus is disabled.
Does that make sense to you?
Let me make one point here. I don't think the 9500 series cards have a different core than the 9700 cards. All of the stuff is there for all 8 pipelines to work, as is the 256-bit memory controller in the chip. I think that by connecting that resistor what you are doing is re-enabling the 4 disabled pipelines, and that it may even enable the other half of the memory controller so that all memory channels are active. However, the reason I don't think you will get 256-bit memory is one or both of the following.
The board lacks traces on the PCB to all channels and/or the memory is not banked to fill all 256-bits of the memory bus. In either case, you will not get 256-bit memory access, just because the other half of the memory controller on the core has been enabled.