Hey TBird if your 4200 can do 14,000-15,000 3dMarks how come in your signature your 3dMark score with the 4200 is just barely over 13,000?
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Hey TBird if your 4200 can do 14,000-15,000 3dMarks how come in your signature your 3dMark score with the 4200 is just barely over 13,000?
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Originally posted by Sandro
Sorry to hear about all your troubles. Seems like lady luck is a hooker and you're out of cash, TBird1GHZ.
Appropriate Max Payne reference, yes?
well maybe ill win the lotto ;) 1:23 million odds....
"my MX420 has never hit past 5400 3dmarks when overclocked to the max at 332/443"
wow man can you link me? maybe your cpu was weak. I gained about 400 marks going from 333 to 366 on the ram. going from 333 to 443 would get me 1000-1200 more marks putting me at 5300 to 5500 on my 2.14GHz cpu, but with a faster cpu I just might break 6k. im at 4850 on a crap oc too. will you sell your mx420 if you wanted to? ill break 5k for sure LOL. my goal is to get the best score for every good card along with a godly overclock, take the ti200 at 250/525 for example or the mx440 at 330/550 :eek:
I sold my 128mb ti4200 at 280/520 for.......
This auction is for a Geforce 4 TI-4200 card from Abit. Its the 64mb version which actually benchmarks higher then the 128mb versions in most games, this is because they use much fast memory on the 64mb version. I use one of these in my own system and I've yet to run into a game that it cannot run extremely fast!
......this is some seller selling the 64mb which eats the 128mb so I bought a 64mb a few days ago :) 14k depends on my cpu and gpu oc and I run with best quality too :)
$25 is still cheap for a PS in my book. A good 400W+ PS, Enermax or Antec, cost around 3x that. If you've have that many PS' fry you might want to also get a surge protector.Quote:
Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz
wow I didnt know a psu can take out other hardware, ive had like 5 psu fry over the years, the last 2 fried within 4 months and it never took anything out with it. well this time im using an expensive psu, cost me $25 I think, that baby weighs like twice as much, perhaps much larger capacitors and it feels solid and well built even the exhaust fan is really powerful. It may be a little worse than the enermax but miles better than the codegens which cant even maintain the 12v rail which my new psu can!
IF your CPU is running at 85C then the HS fan isn't working and/or you didn't apply any thermal paste (ie still using a crappy thermal pad). Do that CPU a favor and pickup a Speeze CPU Fan Model 5F263B1M3 - only $12 at Newegg. Also get some Artic Aluminum or Ceramique, or if you can't find either of those a ~$3 tube of Silicon grease from Radio Shack will also work.
I had my power supply die on me during a power loss and later brownout all within 2 minutes. The computer was turned off during all this, but after power came back on the computer turned on by itself! (No, I did not have the feature turned on in the BIOS where the computer turns on when you re-gain power)
Check out some of the pictures :)
http://www.ganksta.com/ISEF/Web/doo.jpg
Here's another angle of that shot:
http://www.ganksta.com/ISEF/Web/doo3.jpg
These big black capacitors are measured at 1200 micro farads at 200 Volts:
http://www.ganksta.com/ISEF/Web/doo2.jpg
http://www.ganksta.com/ISEF/Web/doo4.jpg
Worth mentioning: One of friends think the white looking stuff is glue, although I do not agree with him since it was not there before the incident happened. I had modified my power supply in the past to give it a stronger 5V and 12V rail, so I knew exactly what the internals looked like :). Also, I don't think the power supply modification killed my PSU because it worked fine for 2 weeks before I that brownout. I don't have any equipment that protects against brownouts.
I spent about $75 on this TTGI TT-520SS 520W power supply. It replaced my Enermax 431W power supply that went into my water/peltier rig. I've since replaced my broken TTGI with an Antec True480 power supply for $91. As you can see from my signature, I haven't had the time yet to put my main rig back together yet :(.
Nice pics... Sorry about the dead psu...
However I agree with your friend.. Most higher quality power supplies use a glue or contact cement on the board...
If you look at that last image.. Its on the cable... And a string of it going up the cable...
However when caps die they tend not to leak white goo :D They usually explode or leak a water like liquid (since caps are coded in a liquid inside)
Most of the time when I see barrel style caps blow.. the whole canister would pop off :)
Its possible that transistors are fried..
I wish I finished my Analog/Digital classes :) I only completed 18 months
Not with the way your luck with PSUs is going. You'd probably have a better chance finding it on the street.Quote:
well maybe ill win the lotto 1:23 million odds....
TBird, you definitely need to get a good PSU. In my opinion, the PSU is one of the most important parts of a comp because if something is wrong with the PSU, it can take all the other components down with it. Get at least a 350W Antec or Enermax. I have both a 430W Enermax and 430W TruPower Antec. Both are great PSUs.
If you need a very reliable powersupply with a low price tag, I really think Sparkle PSU would be the best. I don't know how much it costs now, but when I bought a Sparkle 300W PSU, it was in the 30's at Newegg and it was comparable with 400W PSU because it had really high current rating and its rail is very stable. Mine wasn't stable as I expected so I opened up my PSU and easily upped my rails to 3.3V and 5V flat.
Something is indeedly dead, be it the capacitors or not. I am very sure that the glue-like substance was not on the capacitors before my power supply died, that is the honest truth. Think what you will :).Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
Nice pics... Sorry about the dead psu...
However I agree with your friend.. Most higher quality power supplies use a glue or contact cement on the board...
If you look at that last image.. Its on the cable... And a string of it going up the cable...
However when caps die they tend not to leak white goo :D They usually explode or leak a water like liquid (since caps are coded in a liquid inside)
Most of the time when I see barrel style caps blow.. the whole canister would pop off :)
Its possible that transistors are fried..
I wish I finished my Analog/Digital classes :) I only completed 18 months
The power supply can still power on and have sufficient power to power a few fans and sometimes it will have enough power to make a hard drive spin up but that is it. You can turn on the power supply without plugging it in to the motherboard or putting a jumper onto the GRND+PWR_ON leads too, so something is definetly wrong with that ower supply. In other words, all I need to do to turn it on is to take a power cord, plug it into the power socket and turn on the power supply by putting the switch to "ON" :eek:.
It was a decent power supply too :(. Not quite as good as my Enermax 431W, but pretty good.
Brooklyn, i'm just saying that what you said in regards to tbird was unnecessary and plain out rude. tbird minding his own business goes and describes his situation and you charge him with 'that's what you get for being so cheap'Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
Sorry bud... The only Enermax that cost over $100 is the 550w Enermax... Unless you live in Canada :)
Second, If you dont agree with what I said prior.. Oh well... It is a known fact that when the cheapest hardware is used, their can be problems... You DO NOT want to skimp on a PSU... If they do fry, they can take out most of your setup.. Then you wont have anything!
Its like the idiots who use the cheapest gas for their car... It would cause more problems in the long run then good :)
Just face it man, you said what you said cause of the reputation that tbird has in this forum.
If a guy came out posting, 'hey guys, i'm a newbie, I was on a real tight budget when building my computer and I spent X on this psu, but as an attempt to get extra juice from my computer the PSU went dead' You would have take a more professional role.
I'm just saying,keep yourself in check cause tbird is just a kid.
Off topic though, you have to give tbird his due props, this guy has taken all kinds of comments from people in this forum and he still posts with no hate or throwing insults at people. He just reads the threads and posts his opinion/view, and minds his own business when it comes to personal insults directed at him.
As for the cheapest hardware used and there can be problems... shoot look at some of the most expensive hardware, especially when considering cutting edge technology.
The 9700pro when it came out. When the p4 came out with rdram and all those mobos that companies had that were useless.:confused:
aside, i've bought 2 psus that came with 2 cases for $55 (after shipping) 5 yrs ago. The PSU is still working perfectly with all the original parts bought for that rig still also working. Use to be a gaming machine, but slowly transitioned to just OFFICE XP, web, and music, and soon to be a machine to serve as the host for internet sharing (no router, but just a hub). Very very stable.
In regards to the power supply failure listed above. Colossus is correct. The white material you are pointing out in all the pictures, is in fact a cement or glue. I use it everyday where i work, we use it to properly secure components to a PCB (so they are not just mounted by thier leads). I suspect what has happened is the transistor used to power on the switchmode power supply(which you are gating by grounding the power on lead) is shorted, which will turn on your power supply as soon as you supply the unit power. Quick quesion for ya, will the unit power off properly (via control of the motherboard) or do you have to manually power it down or remove the cord?
Also mentioned by colossus, The size of capacitors used in power supplys will typically leak internally or fail. when they fail you will see the top popped up and broken along the 3 indented marks on the top of the cap.
hey i put cheap gas in my 99 mustang gt and it runs like a champ....13.6 1/4mile
yep I agree with you. Your not going to have a problem with cheap gas long as it isnt gasohol(not even sure then). High octane fuel does seem to help some junk 4 cylinders or perhaps if you own a ferrari or pre-pollution control big block.:eek:Quote:
Originally posted by md1198p
hey i put cheap gas in my 99 mustang gt and it runs like a champ....13.6 1/4mile
low octane fuel is for low compression motors as it ignites easier(4.6 overhead cam is about 8.5-1) high octane is for high compression motors, like a corvettes for example. my car pings and hesitates with super or premium....sorry to get off topic lol.
Its more of a pet peeve then anything... I hate going to the gas station with my cars and seeing a brand new sweet Mercedes being filled up with cheap gas...
But to keep on topic...
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You are entitled to your opinions and will take my comment as you will... I thought it was funny that you called me Brooklyn, but hey whatever floats your boat... But it is well known that cheap power supplies will cause more problems then good.. I wont even go into how many power supplies I had to replace due to really cheap power supplies being used... Most of the time I have to replace the board and processor... Its just not worth the hassle.. Buying a decent power supply is worth more in the long run...
Most of the advice that is given to TB went through one ear and out the other without any leaking in. He continues to give out false info and when he comments to other people about what other people have done... 9 times out of 10 he is mistaken...
I don’t have a problem with him nor do I attack him like others do... If you don’t agree with the comment oh well...
Cannot please everyone all the time.