I'd get one (or two) but they're only 36GB.
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I'd get one (or two) but they're only 36GB.
I love mine. Bootup time is around 32sec
To be honest I'm probably more defragged than most. I still have my copy of XP running on the SE drive. Less is missed if I boot to the other copy of XP and run defrag on the raptor.Quote:
Originally posted by OS-Wiz
I did a defrag and got 1228 :( No OC on anything, if that matters.
Eric
Hmmm I never tried PCMarks with my Raptor.. If I decide to keep them... I might as well... But a single raptor drive cannot beat my RAID 0 array of 2 drives.. Which scored over 1500 in PCMarks :)
Still 1350 is not that far off. I wonder what I will get with both drives :)Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
Hmmm I never tried PCMarks with my Raptor.. If I decide to keep them... I might as well... But a single raptor drive cannot beat my RAID 0 array of 2 drives.. Which scored over 1500 in PCMarks :)
Eric
No its not that bad at all!!!!
I score around 1000 if I recall correctly on a single drive... So yes that is a 33% advantage :) (give or take :D)
I'm not all that impressed by the drive due to its price/space ratio. At current price you can purchase 2 (maybe even 3) 40GB 7200rpm ATA100 drives instead of a single Raptor. Considering this, for the same price as 2 Raptors in a RAID 0 array giving you around 80 gigs, you could have 4 7200rpm ATA100 drives in a RAID 0 array giving you 160 gigs. I'd imagine this would provide similar (not better) performance.
So you have 4 drives (instead of 2) that *each* have half the expected life expectancy (ie cheap parts). I suggest not putting important data on it. You get more than just extra speed. The drives are a lot more solid. I was also looking at access time. Nothing IDE out there beats it.Quote:
Originally posted by ImaNihilist
I'm not all that impressed by the drive due to its price/space ratio. At current price you can purchase 2 (maybe even 3) 40GB 7200rpm ATA100 drives instead of a single Raptor. Considering this, for the same price as 2 Raptors in a RAID 0 array giving you around 80 gigs, you could have 4 7200rpm ATA100 drives in a RAID 0 array giving you 160 gigs. I'd imagine this would provide similar (not better) performance.
Eric
Cheap parts? I was thinking more along the lines of a WD 40GB 7200 with 8mb cahe for around 70$. The Raptor is also made by WD. I don't think the parts will be all that different in terms of quality.
They are different competing technologies. The Raptor is made mostly out of SCSI parts and is designed to last. They advertise as being value for the Enterprise market. Just running at 10,000 rpm requires better parts. The other IDE/SATA drives are made to be affordable and appeal to consumers. Quality is sacraficed to give the consumers a good deal.Quote:
Originally posted by ImaNihilist
Cheap parts? I was thinking more along the lines of a WD 40GB 7200 with 8mb cahe for around 70$. The Raptor is also made by WD. I don't think the parts will be all that different in terms of quality.
Eric
Yes, but to what degree? With a Raptor you are paying roughly $4 per GB, where as even with a 120GB Seagate 7200 SATA drive its only $1 a GB. I believe I am not the only one that considers 40 GB very little space for today's applications and games. I want at least 120GB in any system I build. That would mean purchasing 4 Raptor's in a RAID 0 array. While performance would be UNMATCHED at this level, price is also unmatched. However, I don't believe this is even possibly because the RAID function for ICH5R only supports 2 SATA drives.Quote:
Originally posted by ewitte
Quality is sacraficed to give the consumers a good deal.
I guess that depends on the drive you get. You can probably rank the quality by looking at the warranty. Most of Western Digital's drives have 1 year warranties. I believe Maxtor is mostly 1 year now as well. The SE drives have 3 year warranties and the Raptors have 5 year warranties. So I would *at least* get a SE drive and run no more than 2 drives in RAID. Even two drives is risky, four is insane. Your still better off getting another larger drive for safer storage.Quote:
Originally posted by ImaNihilist
Yes, but to what degree? With a Raptor you are paying roughly $4 per GB, where as even with a 120GB Seagate 7200 SATA drive its only $1 a GB. I believe I am not the only one that considers 40 GB very little space for today's applications and games. I want at least 120GB in any system I build. That would mean purchasing 4 Raptor's in a RAID 0 array. While performance would be UNMATCHED at this level, price is also unmatched. However, I don't believe this is even possibly because the RAID function for ICH5R only supports 2 SATA drives.
My sisters computer I built for her I used cheapo 40GB 7200RPM maxtors but I did RAID 1 (mirror) on them. I guess that was about $180 for 40GB at the time. If I had it all to do over again I would have probably got a 36GB Cheetah and LSI controller. BTW a single 15K 36GB Cheetah is near $300. I never considered it because most U320 controllers are also over $150. I found the LSI after I made my first raptor purchase.
Eric
Well maybe I've just been very lucky, but the first 2 systems I built were identical, and I used 4 40GB Maxtor D740Xs in ATA133 RAID 0 Arrays on Abit K7RA-RAID boards based on the Via KT266A chipset. Both have been running for around a year now virtually 24/7 and never failed.
I can vouch for the D740Xs and the RAID controller on the ABIT KR7A-133R. I still have those two D740Xs running in my server (not in RAID anymore) and they are over 3 yrs old, never a hint of a problem. Those are probably the best drives Maxtor ever made.Quote:
Originally posted by ImaNihilist
Well maybe I've just been very lucky, but the first 2 systems I built were identical, and I used 4 40GB Maxtor D740Xs in ATA133 RAID 0 Arrays on Abit K7RA-RAID boards based on the Via KT266A chipset. Both have been running for around a year now virtually 24/7 and never failed.
Edit: And still have that Abit KR7A-133R running in my server, never a hint of a problem and I've abuse it several times only to have it survive my stupidty :D
The maxtor I had doing Raid0 on my server died without any hints of problems. A few years later I'm still running the other 20GB drive but I just put crap on it. I do not even have the server anymore. The thing is the drive will die sooner or later. Using 4 drives for a stripe dramatically increases your odds. You can have 3 drives that would last 5 years combined with 1 that only makes it a year. Your data is gone as soon as the first one dies.Quote:
Originally posted by OS-Wiz
I can vouch for the D740Xs and the RAID controller on the ABIT KR7A-133R. I still have those two D740Xs running in my server (not in RAID anymore) and they are over 3 yrs old, never a hint of a problem. Those are probably the best drives Maxtor ever made.
Edit: And still have that Abit KR7A-133R running in my server, never a hint of a problem and I've abuse it several times only to have it survive my stupidty :D
Eric