Fine if he makes sure his cpu is running stable.
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Fine if he makes sure his cpu is running stable.
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Originally posted by speedstream5621
Assuming that he doesn't have crappy case cooling or something else that might break the bank as far as temps go.
If this so-called "crappy case cooling" isn't screwing his machine up now... what makes you think a measly OC with NO vcore increase will? :confused:
I think you're under the assumption that raw mhz makes a big diffrence in temps, but it doesn't :). At least that's what I gather from what you're saying :).
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Originally posted by gkline
Fine if he makes sure his cpu is running stable.
Exactly! Which is yet to be seen... until he tells us :D.
No, I understand that the majority of an increase in temps from overclocking comes from increasing the voltage.Quote:
If this so-called "crappy case cooling" isn't screwing his machine up now... what makes you think a measly OC with NO vcore increase will?
I think you're under the assumption that raw mhz makes a big diffrence in temps, but it doesn't . At least that's what I gather from what you're saying .
I don't believe my temps even went up one degree celsius when I overclocked from 1533 to 1640.
Who is to say how much of a temp increase he will see when going to a 3200+? It might not be screwing it now, but what about after the o/c? AMD gives really crappy heatsinks as we all know and it seems like a lot of Barton users are borderline at stock.
I don't know, I just think its a good idea to get better cooling before overclocking, especially a Barton.
This is the bottom line though.:)Quote:
Fine if he makes sure his cpu is running stable.
I cannot get windows to come up at all , 2500+ at 3200+.I get blank screen,cant see bios or nothing at all.A little help here:confused:
Well...you aren't stable!:( You can't even see the BIOS? Time to reset the CMOS. You might need more voltage to become stable or it could just be overheating. You won't know until you get better cooling.:) Do not increase the voltage either with stock cooling either!Quote:
I cannot get windows to come up at all , 2500+ at 3200+.I get blank screen,cant see bios or nothing at all.A little help here
Take that everyone who said he didn't need better cooling!!!:p
Thanks for the help speedstream
Look, you really should get better cooling. HOWEVER, the inability to boot might not necessarily be cooling. Did you raise your voltages? Now, I'd be REAL careful about that w/stock cooling.Quote:
Originally posted by 2630Goon
I cannot get windows to come up at all , 2500+ at 3200+.I get blank screen,cant see bios or nothing at all.A little help here:confused:
I know this sounds like I'm saying two mutually exclusive things, but.....Geez, I feel like I just repeated 5621's post!!!
No problem.:) What are your idle and load temps at 2500+ speeds in Windows?Quote:
Thanks for the help speedstream
well my idle temp is 39-40 c ,load around 45-47c.
Since when are POST'ing problems caused by a lack of Vcore? This may be true for Intels maybe... but not AMD. It seems to me that your board just cannot support 400mhz fsb. Try this... 13x166..... it should come up close to 2.2GHz... then see if windows will load that way ;).
I feel your board is the limiting factor here :).
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Originally posted by speedstream5621
Take that everyone who said he didn't need better cooling!!!:p
lol! Ok... tell him to go buy an SLK800 and Vantec tornado... and then try 200x11 again, lol. :p ;).
I've not been able to post, had to reset CMOS, and could post when I'd raised Vcore. This was I'd tried some pretty high o/c'ing for me (like over 220).Quote:
Originally posted by lostlilchild6
Since when are POST'ing problems caused by a lack of Vcore?
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Originally posted by hwmicre
I've not been able to post, had to reset CMOS, and could post when I'd raised Vcore. This was I'd tried some pretty high o/c'ing for me (like over 220).
Yeah... I guess you're right. I have been noticing weird things about these new NF2 boards. For example... I can adjust the Vdimm and/or the memory timings... and I wouldnt post from time to time... lol... go figure. :)
But in this situation... I would totally blame his board before I blame the lack of Vcore :) ;).
Wanna know something, though? After all the.....BS.....we're tossing back and forth here, it really does come down to the fact that he's gotta get better cooling, plain and simple. Unless 2630's an exception, if he gets a serious o/c he's gonna need better cooling than the stock HSF, which MAY be acceptable - but barely.Quote:
Originally posted by lostlilchild6
But in this situation... I would totally blame his board before I blame the lack of Vcore :) ;).