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I don't think so a Ti4600 is faster but a 4200 and 9600pro would be about the same. If the 9600Pro is overclocked or has AA & AF on even the 4600 is slower let alone a Ti4200.Quote:
Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz
exactly. I dont know why you guys get all excited about a 9600 pro, its slower than a ti4200 without aa/af
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Now if we had a DX9 benchmark than things get real ugly for any GF4 Ti card vs a 9600 Pro.
199 US = 270 Can. So really its not that much more. You just weren't thinking about the currency conversion. Only 30$ canadian difference which is like 20$ US.
IIRC, ATi says that the 9600XT will be faster than the 9700Pro.
if that is true, then it's definitely quite a bit a faster than the Ti4200, and will eat(tm) any gf4 with AA/AF.
no kidding. the only thing a ti4200 will eat is a 9600 pro, 9500 NON pro or fx5600 ultra besides the obvious ti500, radeon8500, 9200 :p
In what? Just 3dmark01? What reviews are you looking at?Quote:
Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz
exactly. I dont know why you guys get all excited about a 9600 pro, its slower than a ti4200 without aa/af
I wouldnt go and say its slower but about the same speed at LOW res and NO AA/AF, depending on what game you play. Newer games the 9600P seems faster. When you start turning up the res, AA,AF and use games with newer game engines the 9600P is faster. And when you do play older games the frame rate is high enough for both cards so no problem there. Also the 9600P has DX9 features while the GF4 doesnt. And lastly the 9600P core is one hell of an overclocker.
You gotta forgive T'bird, his enthusiasm for 3DMark clouds his judgment at times. :p The 9600XT would be a fast lower mid-range card, faster than a Ti4200 imo, but how would it stack up against the Ti4600 in DX8 games? Can't tell, the XT's got the advantage of being a DX9 card, so it's got 'longer legs' if ya know what I mean.;) :)Quote:
Originally posted by BL1NK
In what? Just 3dmark01? What reviews are you looking at?
I dont give a crap about "3D mark" or "aquamark 3 " scores. Every computer system is different, and the same graphics card in one machine will give different scores in another. The numbers are almost useless.
I play a lot of the newer games, I have no doubt that a ti4200 AND an ATI 9600 XT will run older directX 8.0 games just fine.
I'm interested in playing half life 2/Doom 3/Thief 3 , and I was essentially wondering if I'd see much of a diff between my ti4200 and a 9600 XT ....mostly all I've seen so far, is speculation . I'm sure the ATI card will outperform the ti4200...but would the differences be noticeable ? I usually play @ 1280 X 720 res, with 2X AA on. The ti4200 runs most current games pretty well, in fact it's a very fast graphics card...some of the newer games ( bf 1942 ) tend to lag at times , but not much.
The 9600XT should do as well, if not better than the Ti4200. Newer DX9 games shouldn't be a problem for the 9600XT, so I'd say get it over the Ti simply 'cause it should do well in both DX8/9 games. ;) Just an opinion, though, don't start flaming now.:p :DQuote:
The ti4200 runs most current games pretty well, in fact it's a very fast graphics card...some of the newer games ( bf 1942 ) tend to lag at times , but not much.
I really do apprieciate everyone's opinion !
Should be interesting to see some real benchmarks on the 9600 XT card...I've seen plenty on the 9800XT ....beautiful card, but totally unaffordable. :(
If you want a video card that will, give you a noticeable differance in games, get the 9800np. Just my 2 cents, I know you didn`t mention it.
I agree 100% :eek: Wonder if they have installment plans for poor smucks like us humble mortals...:p :DQuote:
Originally posted by dimmy32
I really do apprieciate everyone's opinion !
Should be interesting to see some real benchmarks on the 9600 XT card...I've seen plenty on the 9800XT ....beautiful card, but totally unaffordable. :(
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Originally posted by pa555
All of the XT cards will come with Hald life 2 in the box or a voucher as Half life 2 is delayed! Also keep in mind it may only be the single player version.
If I was you I would wait, keep saving your money & buy the 9800 Pro. The 9800 Pro is by far better that the ti4200 & may go down in price by the end of the year...
Whats up with the price of the 9600 Pro in Canada? https://buy.ati.com/shopati/find.asp...00&country=CAN
Canada
PRE-ORDER RADEON 9600 XT 128MB AGP Price: $299.00 CDN
RADEON 9600 128MB AGP Price: $299.00 CDN
RADEON 9600 PRO 128MB AGP Price: $349.00 CDN
USA
PRE-ORDER RADEON 9600 XT 128MB AGP Price: $199.00 US
RADEON 9600 128MB AGP Price: $169.00 US
RADEON 9600 PRO 128MB AGP Price: $199.00 US
Paul
All initial shipping XT cards will come with a voucher for HL2 - and it will be for the FULL version (single/multi). This was verified by ATI...I wish I had the link..
-Ryan
Yeah, Tomshardware.com says the 9600 XT will be the 1st main stream card to be faster than the 9700 Pro.
Also, someone said to get 9800np instead of the 9600 xt... but the problem is no one carries the 9800 np anymore! (Newegg, Mwave...) They only carry 9800se which is said to perform poorly.
They still have the 9800np`s at BB, also, I want to see the 9600XT with just a 128bit memory controler and just 4 pipelines. Beat a 9700 pro or even the 9700np.Quote:
Originally posted by lightbulb8817
Yeah, Tomshardware.com says the 9600 XT will be the 1st main stream card to be faster than the 9700 Pro.
Also, someone said to get 9800np instead of the 9600 xt... but the problem is no one carries the 9800 np anymore! (Newegg, Mwave...) They only carry 9800se which is said to perform poorly.
How much at BB? heheQuote:
Originally posted by lonewolfroger
They still have the 9800np`s at BB, also, I want to see the 9600XT with just a 128bit memory controler and just 4 pipelines. Beat a 9700 pro or even the 9700np.