nope I rather have it the over way, thus why i got the Altec MX5021's
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nope I rather have it the over way, thus why i got the Altec MX5021's
"I'd rather have a good all around system in the high end then one that is only good for sats but only a half decent sub"
That's BS. The Gigaworks sub is way more than just "half decent" LOL.
And the difference in the satellites is bigger than some of you imply. Hell, I sold my original PM 5.1s for the Megaworks 550 because the midrange was better on the Megaworks. Now I have Axioms. ;)
Do you guys think you could hook up the Gigaworks satellites with the PM 5.1 ultra sub? :confused: best of both
worlds.
Don't think you can. Different ratings on speakers. I would like to see someone actually try, I don't want to say absolutely not. TO get both these would be a great cost, and HT system would then be better.
Well, I think I will still go with the Ultras. If a lot of you, including the audiophiles like soup, think the sub is a lot better, and think that the sats are really good, then I will go with it.
G/L and keep us updated
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Originally posted by xcjago
"I'd rather have a good all around system in the high end then one that is only good for sats but only a half decent sub"
That's BS. The Gigaworks sub is way more than just "half decent" LOL.
And the difference in the satellites is bigger than some of you imply. Hell, I sold my original PM 5.1s for the Megaworks 550 because the midrange was better on the Megaworks. Now I have Axioms. ;)
The Gigaworks sub IS more than just a half decent sub.
I think you just might not prefer the sound of horns. The PM5.1s has an excellent midrange, on par with the Megas. I've used both extensively and feel that the PM5.1s are better set than the Megas because of their just as good mids, and even better highs. You really can't compete with a system that has both a 3" midrange driver and a tweeter with just a 3" driver. Unless it's so poorly crafted, it just won't happen. Don't get me wrong though. I love the Megaworks, I own a set myself.
Why do people keep bringing Axioms into this? They're bookshelves, don't include a sub, and each speaker costs almost 4 times the price of one Ultra sattelite. Also, they're not 5.1, and performs a whole different purpose.
On a side note, I'm curious to know what sub you have paired with that Axiom?
Yow will love those Ultra's Alientank. They deserve an "OMGWTFBBQ!".:D
PS. Pinchy went from the Z680's to the Ultra's.:)
PPS. Alientank, have you tried experimenting with sub placement? (move sub away from corner and walls to decrease boominess)
He's right, corner loading adds db, but at the expense of detail.Quote:
Originally posted by soupnazi
Yow will love those Ultra's Alientank. They deserve an "OMGWTFBBQ!".:D
PS. Pinchy went from the Z680's to the Ultra's.:)
PPS. Alientank, have you tried experimenting with sub placement? (move sub away from corner and walls to decrease boominess)
OMGWTFBBQ RATING?!?!?! DAMN BETTER GET THEM THEN FOR SURE! :DQuote:
Originally posted by soupnazi
Yow will love those Ultra's Alientank. They deserve an "OMGWTFBBQ!".:D
PS. Pinchy went from the Z680's to the Ultra's.:)
PPS. Alientank, have you tried experimenting with sub placement? (move sub away from corner and walls to decrease boominess)
I have my sub under my desk which is in the corer, the sub is not right in the corner, but it's near one.
Ok here is my drawing exactly duplicated (with some fancy stuff ;) from the Yamaha Sound Majors handbook
The against wall appears to gain +1 db at the 20hz-30hz on the book.And 0 for the rest Sorry for shaky line
Sub placement
https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/...2004/04/44.jpg
My ultras are the best investment I've ever made and I've only had them two days.
"If your going to do it right?
***, the Gigaworks are arguably better than the Ultras, in fact the Sats are widely considered better."
Yea the sats are better but by how much? Have you A-B'd the two sets side by side? well in any case theEAR has and the difference isnt as great as you think - also I remember reading that if you like listening to high volumes (something I do on occasion) the ultra sats are less fatiguing than any of the megaworks/gigaworks line (I could be wrong on this but thats what I remember hearing)
Bottom line - yes they are better - but it isnt a huge difference in any way. Personally I have a biased taste for horn speakers and I prefer listening to jazz and classical music with a set of horns to bring a livelier soundstage. ( granted they suck for heavy metal music so its a double edged sword.)
"No offense to the Ultra owners in here, but the most important thing to most audiophiles is high quality mid range and high end + soundstage."
No one will argue there - so no offense taken as the ultras still have a very strong lightly colored midrange - and excellent crisp highs - that only get strident at very high volumes.
Again a debate like this could go on forever! :) If I didn't like the sound of horns ( and many people don't - and I wanted to listen to alot of classical, acoustical music - soft vocals, etc. and My interest in clear deep bass was minimal then I would choose the gigaworks.) However I do not fancy listening to Celin Dions devine voice at moderate volumes. I hold bass as important in music as it sets the tempo - rythm and beat that makes the foundtation to MOST music. In the end its very subjective - but I think many would argue (especially here ) that the ultras are a more rounded system that perform in say B+ to A's across all types of music where as the gigaworks would perform some A+'s and some B- where the ultras would score an A or a B+ overall...
I hope people realize both systems suit different tastes and overall are quite equal even though its been said 100 times , maybe more. Having said that- they are miles ahead of anything else offered by any other manufacturuer for multimedia use.
Why doesn't anyone take my reccomendations? I've demoed both extensively. I don't like how people rave about one or the other, without demoing both. Everyone thinks I'm just a fanboy :)
I never argued against the gigas and I've also heard that the sats are better. But I do know that the ultras sub is better than the gigas so how can u say the gigas are better? It depends on what you listen too.Quote:
Originally posted by Swerv
"If your going to do it right?
***, the Gigaworks are arguably better than the Ultras, in fact the Sats are widely considered better."
Yea the sats are better but by how much? Have you A-B'd the two sets side by side? well in any case theEAR has and the difference isnt as great as you think - also I remember reading that if you like listening to high volumes (something I do on occasion) the ultra sats are less fatiguing than any of the megaworks/gigaworks line (I could be wrong on this but thats what I remember hearing)
Bottom line - yes they are better - but it isnt a huge difference in any way. Personally I have a biased taste for horn speakers and I prefer listening to jazz and classical music with a set of horns to bring a livelier soundstage. ( granted they suck for heavy metal music so its a double edged sword.)
"No offense to the Ultra owners in here, but the most important thing to most audiophiles is high quality mid range and high end + soundstage."
No one will argue there - so no offense taken as the ultras still have a very strong lightly colored midrange - and excellent crisp highs - that only get strident at very high volumes.
Again a debate like this could go on forever! :) If I didn't like the sound of horns ( and many people don't - and I wanted to listen to alot of classical, acoustical music - soft vocals, etc. and My interest in clear deep bass was minimal then I would choose the gigaworks.) However I do not fancy listening to Celin Dions devine voice at moderate volumes. I hold bass as important in music as it sets the tempo - rythm and beat that makes the foundtation to MOST music. In the end its very subjective - but I think many would argue (especially here ) that the ultras are a more rounded system that perform in say B+ to A's across all types of music where as the gigaworks would perform some A+'s and some B- where the ultras would score an A or a B+ overall...
I hope people realize both systems suit different tastes and overall are quite equal even though its been said 100 times , maybe more. Having said that- they are miles ahead of anything else offered by any other manufacturuer for multimedia use.