WoW or EQ2...there can only be one

For me one of the biggest issues is that Blizzard is known for one thing: POLISH. Whether one actually likes the game is fairly immaterial... WoW has less bugs and more features (content) than SWG, right here, right now... and it's still in beta.

With EQ2, you have to be dependant on SOE for your customer service needs, which for me is almost reason enough to avoid it right there. Look how that company treated it's customers in EQ, then SWG... not what I'd call anything remotely resembling a good track record.

Now, I have only played WoW up to this point, but I've played EQ1... and I don't see that any of the changes to EQ2 is more than "it's prettier and has voice for everything"... I dunno. I guess you can't go wrong either way, but for me the choice is pretty easy, WoW all the way.

EQ2 is definately a huge improvement from EQ1. Not that the grind is gone or anything but there's so much more content now.

Some of the group bonus/penalties they've put in will really change the dynamics of the game.

All in all, I'll be buying it the day it comes up, shortly followed by the call to my boss "*cough* *cough* I'm sick, not going to be today *cough*"

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Originally posted by Gar
Also you can speak to the opposing faction..assuming you are Undead ;)

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I thought you could do that with any race the only race i remember checking it with was night elves though ,but there is an option to choose your language common or whatever the elf speak was. I thought if you chose common you could talk to the opposing faction and talking elf let you talk encrypted (but still seemed to allow dwarvs and other allies to hear you).

It was amusing whenever we raided the orcs or vice versa you would just see grunting in the chat for them.

Now that you mention it, I remember seeing something like that as well about the common language.

Never really messed with it much though, I just know as a Tauren all I did was moo at any alliance people I came across :p

Undead used to be able to speak common but can't any longer. The now speak undead and another language I believe called gutterspeak or something like that, I believe it's kinda like alliance common. I'm still guessing you'll be able to learn the other faction languages though since they have the languages listed under the skills section of the character screens.

I dunno, I haven't done my studies too much...but it sure seems that WoW is going the EQ1 route. I saw my friend play the beta today for EQ2 and it sure seems they have appeared for more of the casual gamer. And WoW seems more for the hardcore lets get addicted for five years. I'm sorry after seeing my friend not having a life for four years, I'd rather pick the casual side. I dunno, if someone can give me more info beside PvP, I'd be very appreciative. EQ2 has seemed to fix all of the things that made EQ2 addictive and improved more on the story, graphics, soundtrack, and GAMEPLAY. Thanks.

I only lost one year of my life to EQ1 and its good to know that it appeals to both hardcore (when you want it to be) and casual gamers alike. Thanks EQ2.

Btw, what I loved about the game was the graphics for the future. When we set the graphics to extreme, it said even "on the high end machines, it won't be playable, it doesn't exist." It shows that they are looking out for the future. Thats way more improvement because in EQ1, they would update, but they graphics would slow down. The graphics for this game won't be playable for at least a year if not two on a normal or high machine. They ARE definately looking out for the future and less patches. The graphics were simply BREATHTAKING on extreme! More than WoW that I have seen so far. Hell, on anything.

Well the WoW site has something saying open beta sign ups coming soon so release probably isn't more than a month to a month and a half away by most estimates.

EQ2's release is "before the end of 2004". So I expect it sometime around the second week of December at the latest.

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Originally posted by njdevs95
Undead used to be able to speak common but can't any longer. The now speak undead and another language I believe called gutterspeak or something like that, I believe it's kinda like alliance common. I'm still guessing you'll be able to learn the other faction languages though since they have the languages listed under the skills section of the character screens.

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I believe Orcish is the 'common' for the Horde, and the undead also speak Gutterspeak.

You will be able to learn other faction languages eventually, but I never got far enough in the beta to discover how.

The last couple patches in the closed beta have been mostly graphics polish, character content (voices), balancing, and finally bringing in talents for nearly all classes. They're definitely aiming for a mid-November release, but you could have figured that out from the patch contents of late. Open Beta announcement will likely be posted on the site this coming Monday, Oct. 11th, with applications being taken that week.

It's possible to learn the other factions language. factions being Horde or Alliance. You're unable to speak to the opposing faction unless you learn their language. It's one of the skills or something.

EQ was a horrible horrible timesink :eek: I retired my ranger and realized that what I originally loved about EQ was long dead. The problem with EQ1 is that the content kept going higher and higher while killing off the new peeps. During the last few months I played...the old world was DEAD (less than a few peeps per zone) and even new lower level zones were DEAD because of power leveling. The game turned into a vacuum of level 55+ chars and lots of bickering in a power struggle to be on top. The last fight I watched was with 60 peeps in a clan locked in a 1 hour long fight with '1' mob. If anybody ever played EQ at the high level you learned that 'boss' fights weren't tought because they were hard...they were tough because of people going link dead. I releaized I couldn't time sink that much...some of the guilds were playing at 6+ hours every day (required or be kicked) just to maintain their power level. The bosses were growing exponentially stronger and thus forcing guilds to play exponentially longer to see end game content. NOT COOL.

What does this tell me between EQ2 and WoW...both will be fun again! Why, because it will all be new and quite a few of the peeps will be new as well. So those days of exploring and dieing because you did something stupid will be back again...and that is what made it fun. So find game your friends are gravitating towards and join them and play :cool:

The one thing that both EQ2 and WoW did not implement was "scaled" instancing where groups could determine how hard an instanced area would be and the "loot" associated would be scaled according to the difficulty. That way even end game areas are open to lower levels...they just may not get the "phat" stuff from it.

-tReP

Well just to throw my opinion in the mix WOW and EQ2 have nothing on FFXI. FFXI has to the best MMORPG bar none. Graphics game play are top notch. Very time consuming though. WOW is definitly geared more twords the moderate players as they have made it very easy to level your char, but they did it on purpose hoping poeple will level multiple chars and up their monthly fees, But blizzard makes good games and no one can deny them that. EQ2 I just dont have anything nice to say about it so ill keep my comments to myself.

FFXI is one of the worst MMOs evar.

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Originally posted by pwalker1
WOW is definitly geared more twords the moderate players as they have made it very easy to level your char, but they did it on purpose hoping poeple will level multiple chars and up their monthly fees

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You pay per character:confused:

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Originally posted by OpStar
FFXI is one of the worst MMOs evar.

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I don't know about that, Shadowbane might give it a run for its money :p

FFXI was pretty crappy though IMO, it wont even hold a candle to WoW or EQ2.