HL2 is the same monsters that get on you in the same way so whats the difference? If Doom 3 is considered repetitive, then HL2 has to be as well.
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HL2 is the same monsters that get on you in the same way so whats the difference? If Doom 3 is considered repetitive, then HL2 has to be as well.
No surprises here. You have defended D3 as the greatest thing since sliced bread, regardless of the shortcomings that a great deal of people have indicated.Quote:
Originally posted by AutomaticErik
...I still like Doom 3 better and still think it has the better engine. I know, flame on, but I thought I couldn't just bash HL2 without playing it. Now I can bash it all I want as I own it and still prefer Doom 3.
You are to D3 what OpStar is to nVidia. :D
LOL! :D Total agreement from me. AE's all about OGL/nV.....anything else, namely D3D/Ati, sux cast iron ballz in his opinion.:p :DQuote:
Originally posted by Un4given
No surprises here. You have defended D3 as the greatest thing since sliced bread, regardless of the shortcomings that a great deal of people have indicated.
You are to D3 what OpStar is to nVidia. :D
HAHAHAHA LOL HAHAHAHAHAQuote:
Originally posted by Un4given
No surprises here. You have defended D3 as the greatest thing since sliced bread, regardless of the shortcomings that a great deal of people have indicated.
You are to D3 what OpStar is to nVidia. :D
I wont even go into how I finished Doom3 in just a handful of hours, where it was the same thing. Same dark corridor (wouldnt know it from another, so damn dark) and killing the same 5 mobs...
But atleast HL2 has alot more to offer, I agree that HL2 had alot of filler action.. Like I have said before, there was alot of driving to nowhere in HL2.
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Originally posted by Un4given
No surprises here. You have defended D3 as the greatest thing since sliced bread, regardless of the shortcomings that a great deal of people have indicated.
You are to D3 what OpStar is to nVidia. :D
humm ,...i don't think so , compearing HL2 with Doom 3 is like compearing a X800XT with a Nvidia 5700 , ...Opstar will never argue on stuff like this , here the difference is realy huge .
Don't get me wrong, I think the D3 engine has some very good attributes.
1. Overall lighting effects are better.
2. Plays smoother at lower fps.
3. Still looks quite good even at lower resolutions.
However, to look beyond the engines of these games, I hands down find HL2 to have more believable character interaction, world interaction, and general game play premise.
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Originally posted by Un4given
No surprises here. You have defended D3 as the greatest thing since sliced bread, regardless of the shortcomings that a great deal of people have indicated.
You are to D3 what OpStar is to nVidia. :D
hahah going to have to agree with this too. Doom 3 was a great technical demo, but for a game, it lacked. HL2 isn't the greatest game ever, but it's sure steps ahead of Doom 3. HL2 at least tries to add some varying gameplay. I do think it's funny that the people that defended doom 3 like crazy when it was criticized are the same people that cut HL2 down for the same thing. :)
While I may criticize sometimes, and have an obvious UT2004 bias, I am glad that both Doom 3 and Half Life 2 have come out and some folks totally dig 'em. They may be short and repetitive or whatever, but they are both innovative and sorta cool and certainly a lot better than some of the stuff out there (errr - will rock comes to mind). :D
I guess the hype kinda puts a target on their back and people may tend to be harder on them than they otherwise would. Heck, some folks even liked Daikatana... :D :D :D
Hey - if you dug the games - more power to ya! Enjoy and don't let geeks like me keep ya down! Rise up against DA MAN and put us in our place. :)
Agreed. I've always been an OpenGL/nV fanboy, but for good reason.
I've used ATI and nVidia cards and have had less problems with nVidia as well as great performance.
I've played games based on D3D and OGL and have yet to see any D3D game that can run as nicely and look as beautiful as an OGL title.
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Originally posted by Un4given
Don't get me wrong, I think the D3 engine has some very good attributes.
1. Overall lighting effects are better.
2. Plays smoother at lower fps.
3. Still looks quite good even at lower resolutions.
However, to look beyond the engines of these games, I hands down find HL2 to have more believable character interaction, world interaction, and general game play premise.
I completely agree with this. The Doom 3 graphics were better (both are very nice) but HL2 has been a better overall experience. I am sure someone will make a great overall game with the D3 engine, but D3 wasn't it. I thought doom 3 had great atmosphere, even better that HL2. It wore off quickly though after the first couple of levels. There have been a lot of great games out this year.
I haven’t finished either game, but own and play both. I like Doom 3, the graphics were nice, but I’d agree that the game play amounted to walking down corridors and shooting one or two monsters that jump out at you. I think I would have a higher opinion of the game if I had a new Nvidia card instead of my 9800NP. I would describe Half-Life 2 as having a richer environment. I’m also of the opinion that I like the graphics better in HL2 than in Doom 3. This may be because of the familiar outdoor environments of HL2 rather than the game engine itself. Both games represent state of the art, and both games deliver on some level.
that is a very narrowminded and incorrect view.Quote:
Originally posted by AutomaticErik
HL2 is the same monsters that get on you in the same way so whats the difference? If Doom 3 is considered repetitive, then HL2 has to be as well.
in half life 2. so far ive used 2 different vehicles, i have had to solve all sorts of mini puzzles how to pass parts, i have been on a coastline, in a town, on a subway line, in mines, underwater, the environment is so varied. u fight monsters and humans, etc etc ,etc
But the environment for Doom 3 is perfect. Its exactly how it needs to be. You're not fighting on Earth. You're on Mars. There is no atmosphere so you stay inside. Doom 3 is more of a game based on horror. HL2 is more of a game based on adventure.
I'm not saying HL2 is a bad game. Its a great game and I have enjoyed the time I have spent with it so far. I've experienced a better overall experience, however, with Doom 3. I feel more immersed and part of the action in D3 than I do in HL2.
To each his own, man, but I'm more immersed in games on Earth than on Mars. Just a personal preference.Quote:
Originally posted by AutomaticErik
But the environment for Doom 3 is perfect. Its exactly how it needs to be. You're not fighting on Earth. You're on Mars. There is no atmosphere so you stay inside. Doom 3 is more of a game based on horror. HL2 is more of a game based on adventure.
I'm not saying HL2 is a bad game. Its a great game and I have enjoyed the time I have spent with it so far. I've experienced a better overall experience, however, with Doom 3. I feel more immersed and part of the action in D3 than I do in HL2.
I've had the fun experience of playing both games, and here is my piece of cake on this issue:
Doom3 - Although many people say that it was very linear, yada yada yada. I believe that D3 scared the crap out of me, and gave me an enjoyable ride. I cant disagree w/the fact that it was very dark, and things seemed to get repetitive. The flashlight thing wasnt even that big of a deal compared to the magnitude of moans and groans coming from the community. It took a second to switch from flashlight-weapon. The game was a stepping stone in the right direction because of its engine, which was very well done, personally. But people just get very overhyped and paint a very unrealistic picture of the games before they come out. Thats where I think most of the letdown comes into play. I just dont seem to get excited and eat, sleep, live a game when I hear about it. It just ends up dissapointing you and your mind in the end.
Half-life2 - I havent had the chance to complete the game totally, but I believe that I am close to completion. So far, this game has totally blown me away. Its just so beautiful; the atmosphere, objects, characters, lighting, etc. As of my opinion I lean towards the HL2 engine. It just seems more full, and more player interaction w/objects and the physics aspect of the game just seemed to be icing on the cake.
Comparing the story from both games, I lean HL2 again. I found that the Doom3 story was rather... cliche? It wasnt totally, but it had a strong sense of "Have i done this before? Saved humankind from zombies/hell? Naw, not on Mars, i guess i havent." It just sort of rang a bell.
Call me a HL2 fanboy, but my opinion and tastes seemed to have enjoyed HL2 more. BUT, both games are very good games to me.