Well, yeah, but that had no competition and that was before the market was defined.Quote:
Originally Posted by taggart6
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Well, yeah, but that had no competition and that was before the market was defined.Quote:
Originally Posted by taggart6
360 + wii for me too.
The reason why 360 wins is that both systems will be identical kind of how the x1900 vs 7900 is. So why would i pay 600 to get the same thing for 350 (Microsoft will lower prices before ps3 launch) Another thing that pisses me of is this media center ******** (get your songs here.) comon i dont want a 600 dollor itunes console. I watched e3 sony confrence and was majorly pissed at the way their trying to make peaple buy songs or other crap instead of focusing on the real reason their selling a console.
You must be young. Both Intellivision and Colecovision (especially) were major players in the Atari age. Had the video game market not imploded in 1984 Colecovision would've outsold Atari that year and possibly still been a contender (with a newer console) when the NES emerged in '86.Quote:
Originally Posted by ImaNihilist
but if you look at the failures of each console you can usually name one or more good reasons as to why it failed...I don't know too much about the 3do or jaguar...so I'll stay away from those...but the sega 32x failed because there were like 4 games and they were horrible...believe me...I owned one...the sega cd failed because it just plain sucked...and the saturn died because it was expensive and couldn't do 3d as well as n64 or the ps1...then came the dreamcast...as fantastic as the thing was...who's gonna buy it after 3 failed console releases in a row?Quote:
Originally Posted by ImaNihilist
I really don't think gamecube was a horrible console...it had great party games but it wasn't too far behind the x-box...in the us sure it wasn't nearly as popular but in japan it did well...
I really think ps3 will enjoy some success but looking at it right now it might be number 3...however I don't think it'll have the same outcome that the 3do...sega cd/saturn/etc had...the ps2 had the largest fanbase and reguardless of how much the ps3 costs or what games come out for it...I think people will buy it because the 2 previous platsations were so huge and if the first 2 were great...then the 3rd must be like mega great right?
Its pretty much ****ed up in japan at least, DS is gaining so much momentum over there, Wii will ride that wave wih its "non games" just like DS did, low price, awesome lineup and fun games.
Just an example why PS3 has it worst in japan than north america
First pricing from a Japanese retailer unveils an amazing price of 71,800yen w/o tax for the PS3 non-tardpack. With tax that's a whooping 75,390yen! That's 682.85 in USD right now.
http://www.rakuten.co.jp/aworld/527386/646656/
and yea..
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7282/quickpoll9fc.jpg
I cant wait to see Famitsu's developer/retailer/gamer reaction to all next gen consoles, which they'll buy and which they think will be most fun/sell more, etc. They did after last year's E3 and TGS.
LOL close to 700 bucks for the gimp PS3 in Japan? I bet that wont go over very well.
you're forgetting Intellivision, Colecovision, Commadore 64, and perhaps even the first Macs.Quote:
Originally Posted by ImaNihilist
These were the system that first defined the gaming market.
See, I disagree. I believe the NES sold more than all of those combined.Quote:
Originally Posted by taggart6
You're right, but what does that have to do with the Atari 2600 not having a competitor?Quote:
Originally Posted by ImaNihilist
The NES actually redefined the gaming market, after Atari killed it by releasing a tsunami of garbage games on to the market. Thus the Nintendo "Seal of Approval" and manufacturer limitations to keep the market from being flooded.
But in order to redefine a market you need to define it first, which is where Atari and their ilk come in as Generation 1.
https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2006/05/4.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Soul Assassin
You forget that MS could lose money every time they release a console and still easily be in business. When you make between $12 billion and $24 billion a year in profit, these things are not really huge issues. Sony on the other hand has been walking a fiscal tight rope for the last decade, and a huge loss for them could be the end.Quote:
Eventually, if that firm can't become a market player again in the next round, they go bankrupt.
I am however, very impressed with Nintendo. For years, I have basically counted them as out of the next round and possibly dead meat. However, the Wii is refreshing enough to actually have attracted my interests.
ahahahaharoflmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by ImaNihilist
Actually, I didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by irwincur
"In bed together?"
Not hardly.
Nintendo hasn't said ANYTHING to that fact.
It was all microsoft just trying to kiss butt.
To be honest, we shouldn't care. More competition equals more variety.Quote:
Originally Posted by Klashe
I doubt sony is beaten, the PS3 might still prove to be a very solid competitor.