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This may very well be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Transfurzz
From what I've read, the 8600 series has not been the great buy that previous generations (i.e. 7600 and 6600) have been.
ATi may be really focusing on the mid range cards.
But I'm still waiting for work on the 2900XTX!
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Originally Posted by Spank_Me_Hard
nVidia has been talking up their next generation chip in HPC circles. There was a little bit mentioned about it with their recent release of G80 based GPGPU parts. They're talking about 64bit double precision FP, that means a completely new GPU design, by the end of the year. That makes sense, as you usually see a completely new GPU around 9-12 month intervals.
I don't think we're going to see a refresh of the G80 (hypothetical 8900GTX) this time around, as the competition from AMD just isn't strong enough to warrant that. The best they're going to do is the 8800 Ultra.
I think it's great what AMD has done with the driver releases, it makes the R600 far less disappointing. That and it's ability to overclock like hell. I'd say with a gig of GDDR4 and another 100MHz of core clock, it would be a really compelling product. I think that AMD might kick ATi's *** into shape by the time of the next launch.
One can only hope that AMD gets ATI going and cleans house, probably a lot of dead weight management. These cards that are just coming out should of been out 6 months ago, and if they had been, we would have greater choices now in the mid range market.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nater
No doubt that the sucessor is in the making. I'm sure even ATi has theirs planned. If you look at CPUs... there are rough plans even two to three years down the road.Quote:
nVidia has been talking up their next generation chip in HPC circles. There was a little bit mentioned about it with their recent release of G80 based GPGPU parts. They're talking about 64bit double precision FP, that means a completely new GPU design, by the end of the year. That makes sense, as you usually see a completely new GPU around 9-12 month intervals.
But reasonably, if nVidia is talking about the end of the year... realistically I'd say more like the middle of next year. Seems like nothing in computers ever comes out on the time stated.
And this is really what I'm talking about when I mention "next generation"... not moving from the 8800GTX to theoretical 8900GTX crap. People need to learn what a "generation" means.
Glad that you "got it".
You may be right. But... as with the quad core Core2's, they could still do it if they really wanted to make ATi look bad. Much worse than even now.Quote:
I don't think we're going to see a refresh of the G80 (hypothetical 8900GTX) this time around, as the competition from AMD just isn't strong enough to warrant that.
Which is why I'm still interested in what the 2900XTX may do (hopefully). And going from a 80nm to a 65nm fab process would probably also really help the power and the heat issues as well.Quote:
I think it's great what AMD has done with the driver releases, it makes the R600 far less disappointing. That and it's ability to overclock like hell. I'd say with a gig of GDDR4 and another 100MHz of core clock, it would be a really compelling product.
They may be down for the count this generation... but I'm confident that they'll be back.Quote:
I think that AMD might kick ATi's *** into shape by the time of the next launch.
ATi now has eceonmies of scale in their favour that nVidia doesn't have.
I don't see any reason why the "new" generation from nVidia won't be out this winter. It'd be a full year from the g80 release, which is right on schedule for them, if even a bit slow.
Nope. Pre-release benchmarks show both the 2400 and 2600 series to suck compared to 8400 and 8600.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spank_Me_Hard
Word on the street is that we can expect a release around November, just like last year. Personally though, I wouldn't be surprised if nVidia took their time and waited until Q1 2008 since they likely won't have any real competition until then. It won't be a next-gen architecture in the sense that G80 was. More like the 6800-7800 series upgrade. Faster, smaller process, but kind of more of the same, which is hardly a bad thing. Or so they say...Quote:
Originally Posted by OpStar
I would not put too much stock in pre-release benchmarks considering the ATi drivers are continualy being improved upon as a basis for concluding that Nvidia is faster. I would not even make a review of the cards right after they came out, but wait a month or two for the drivers to catch up.
Saw the Anandtech article today. Thought that ATi may have a shot in this arena... especially with nVidia's offering not impressing, but apparently not.Quote:
Nope. Pre-release benchmarks show both the 2400 and 2600 series to suck compared to 8400 and 8600.
I thought the word on the street was that the Oilers were going to sign Redden or trade for Pitkanen?!?Quote:
Word on the street is that we can expect a release around November, just like last year.
:D
heh just saw that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spank_Me_Hard
Now ...hands off!:p
edit: actually the latest word on the street has Kubina + going your way for ... i forget.;)
I think the next generation of nVidia's cards will start hitting at the end of the year. I've heard rumblings that the mid-range will come first with the high-end/ultra high-end coming later. Who knows.
I am confident that they'll have the high-end stuff out by the end of the year, in time for Christmas. Then I'll be able to retire my 7900GTX cards to the storage rack.
i feel sorry for the intel proc holders and the new ati cards.
I hate pc gaming... so expensive to be in and life cycle so short...
but I'm in it...